How did the 1st Hokage survive?

[Hei]

he was 1 of the strongest characters so it's not surprising

 

[Baka Sennin]

madara is owning the kages because of rinnegan, edo tensei and moukuton. he has already been dragged out of susanoo once and his susanoo has been punctured another time.

hashirama has moukuton and infinite darkness, ie one of the best KG and one of the best genjutsu in the series. not to mention insane strength and chakra levels, which is why everyone is desperate to lay a hand on his dna. and that was most probably not all he had, the senju were renowned as masters of all skills (their nickname, a thousand skills, a thousand hands)

 

[Owarij]

The HEAD of the ssenju clan.. which were known as masters of 1000 skills..... ninjutsu,genjutsu and taijutsu...... he had ALOT of jutsu.... and a variety of fighting forms.... His bringer of darkness jutsu is perfect for sharigan users, it makes you blind and the only way to break it is hitting the caster.... Jutsu like amaterasu and tsukyomi immediately become useless ... ofc he could pull it off

 

[Mortal]

The HEAD of the ssenju clan.. which were known as masters of 1000 skills..... ninjutsu,genjutsu and taijutsu...... he had ALOT of jutsu.... and a variety of fighting forms.... His bringer of darkness jutsu is perfect for sharigan users, it makes you blind and the only way to break it is hitting the caster.... Jutsu like amaterasu and tsukyomi immediately become useless ... ofc he could pull it off

None of that matter when u have sasunoo, how will he break thru that

 

[ronus]

1st Hokage not only could use wood element but he was known to have the ability to control biijuz.. He was using ichibi while fighting Madara who was using Kyubi.. He should have many other jutsus and had amazing chakra as well. But we still have to wait to get more detail of battle between them. it must have been epic..

 

[TrollingSage]

When did Gaara and Naruto defeat his EMS

He was referring during the Chuunin arc when Naruto beat Gaara by sheer endurance. His stamina is to be commended. Gaara was baffled as to why Naruto won and not him.

Naruto good boy. n_n

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HOLY F***ING S**T!!! I saw the infinite darkness special and I was like blown away. O___O

Actually am talking about when Gaara pulled him out of susanoo and naruto almost hit with a rasenshuriken. He had to pull out a rinnengan to save himself.

 

[enditallsin]

its not surprising at all that hashirama was able to wipe the floor with madara ass, hasirama was the strongest ninja of his era,master in all taijutsu,ninjutsu,and genjutsu, plus wood release and he took control on the kyubbi from madara, the real question is how the **** did madara survive?

 

[Martano]

Yeah, we will have no idea until it is depicted within the manga.

 

[Kerrah]

Were in the manga does it say his rinnegan caused the 2 meteors.

Where in the manga does it say that a Rinnegan is not needed for the technique?

Kishi included that meteor technique for a reason, he didn't make Madara just say ''Oh I'm bored, lemme use a massive technique!'' He made Madara show off his powers one by one. First it was his ''Fire Release: Great Fire Majestic Annihilation'' Which took most of the fourth division by surprise. Then he showed off his Susanoo and EMS, and to finish it off his Rinnegan, Preta Path and the Meteorite Technique. Kishi included the last technique for a reason. Madara had shown his powers one by one, from the weakest to the strongest. Why would his strongest technique not include the strongest Dojutsu?. Simply, it does need it.

Not only that, but Susanoo forms have exclusive abilities that rely on the user. Sasuke has his manipulation of Amaterasu that covers the ribs of his Susanoo, but he couldn't have that without the conjunction of Blaze release. Now you'd expect Madara, the strongest Uchiha, to have a similar trait, but to an extended level. Which is with the powers of the Rinnegan and the hand seals from the Susanoo, which if it was just a simple Mangekyou Sharingan technique, wouldn't work because there are 3 hand seals. 2 From the Susanoo and one from the user. Now you could say I'm contradicting my own statement because both Sasuke's and Madara's EMS Susanoo showed more than 2 hands on one arm. But the fact is Madara used hand seals. There are no hand seal requirements for any Susanoo Sharingan techniques. Amaterasu is simply with the eye, Yasaka Magatama requires no hand seals as well. But Madara's meteor technique is the only one that does?

It's simple, Madara needs his Rinnegan in conjunction with the EMS Susanoo, to perform three hand seals and bring down two massive meteors. If it wasn't a Rinnegan technique, Kishi would have showed it mid-way during the chapter instead of leaving it at the end. Have you ever heard of the saying ''Saving the best for last?'' Yeah this goes perfectly with what I'm saying.

There's your proof.

 

[Mortal]

Where in the manga does it say that a Rinnegan is not needed for the technique?

Kishi included that meteor technique for a reason, he didn't make Madara just say ''Oh I'm bored, lemme use a massive technique!'' He made Madara show off his powers one by one. First it was his ''Fire Release: Great Fire Majestic Annihilation'' Which took most of the fourth division by surprise. Then he showed off his Susanoo and EMS, and to finish it off his Rinnegan, Preta Path and the Meteorite Technique. Kishi included the last technique for a reason. Madara had shown his powers one by one, from the weakest to the strongest. Why would his strongest technique not include the strongest Dojutsu?. Simply, it does need it.

Not only that, but Susanoo forms have exclusive abilities that rely on the user. Sasuke has his manipulation of Amaterasu that covers the ribs of his Susanoo, but he couldn't have that without the conjunction of Blaze release. Now you'd expect Madara, the strongest Uchiha, to have a similar trait, but to an extended level. Which is with the powers of the Rinnegan and the hand seals from the Susanoo, which if it was just a simple Mangekyou Sharingan technique, wouldn't work because there are 3 hand seals. 2 From the Susanoo and one from the user. Now you could say I'm contradicting my own statement because both Sasuke's and Madara's EMS Susanoo showed more than 2 hands on one arm. But the fact is Madara used hand seals. There are no hand seal requirements for any Susanoo Sharingan techniques. Amaterasu is simply with the eye, Yasaka Magatama requires no hand seals as well. But Madara's meteor technique is the only one that does?

It's simple, Madara needs his Rinnegan in conjunction with the EMS Susanoo, to perform three hand seals and bring down two massive meteors. If it wasn't a Rinnegan technique, Kishi would have showed it mid-way during the chapter instead of leaving it at the end. Have you ever heard of the saying ''Saving the best for last?'' Yeah this goes perfectly with what I'm saying.

There's your proof.

Well i would say u stil didnt state the manga but since u wrote all that u say its his strongest technique their are still battlin so we prolly didnt even c his strongest technique yet. We dont even know the full powers of Ems but its obvious that u need the sasunoo help so that bein said Ems is the reason for it. Nagato couldnt do the meteor cause he didnt have sasunoo but he had rinnegan.

 

[Izanami]

Hashirama was the representive of the younger son he was destined to win.He also had genjustu,wood release and probably had better stamina.

 

[Kerrah]

Well i would say u stil didnt state the manga but since u wrote all that u say its his strongest technique their are still battlin so we prolly didnt even c his strongest technique yet. We dont even know the full powers of Ems but its obvious that u need the sasunoo help so that bein said Ems is the reason for it. Nagato couldnt do the meteor cause he didnt have sasunoo but he had rinnegan.

Therefore it's an inconclusive thought. Nagato couldn't do it because he didn't have his Susanoo. Itachi couldn't do it because he didn't have neither EMS nor Rinnegan. I wasn't saying that was Madara's strongest attack ever. It was the strongest attack we have seen, it's like saying Itachi using his Susanoo and Amaterasu at the beginning of the manga when first seen, and then use ''Katon: Gōkakyū no Jutsu'' It wouldn't make sense would it? Or it's also like saying Itachi using Amaterasu with his normal 3-tomoe Sharingan.

It's neither a Susanoo technique nor a Rinnegan. It's a conjuration of both. Just like I stated before. Madara needs the Rinnegan, I'm not showing any manga evidence because there is none by words, only that of a readers common sense. Kishi put that in to make us excited and show us the power of Madara Uchiha. It's like a ladder, it starts off with his weak attacks and evolves into a massive meteor. And why would Kishi show the Rinnegan if he wouldn't show Madara's powers? If it was a EMS Technique, why did she show the Rinnegan? We already know of the Preta Path, but he showed us the Rinnegan so he could develop the intensity into Madara's final attack. That's how the manga was developed.

Just put your common sense into it, and you will understand.

 

[Mortal]

Therefore it's an inconclusive thought. Nagato couldn't do it because he didn't have his Susanoo. Itachi couldn't do it because he didn't have neither EMS nor Rinnegan. I wasn't saying that was Madara's strongest attack ever. It was the strongest attack we have seen, it's like saying Itachi using his Susanoo and Amaterasu at the beginning of the manga when first seen, and then use ''Katon: Gōkakyū no Jutsu'' It wouldn't make sense would it? Or it's also like saying Itachi using Amaterasu with his normal 3-tomoe Sharingan.

It's neither a Susanoo technique nor a Rinnegan. It's a conjuration of both. Just like I stated before. Madara needs the Rinnegan, I'm not showing any manga evidence because there is none by words, only that of a readers common sense. Kishi put that in to make us excited and show us the power of Madara Uchiha. It's like a ladder, it starts off with his weak attacks and evolves into a massive meteor. And why would Kishi show the Rinnegan if he wouldn't show Madara's powers? If it was a EMS Technique, why did she show the Rinnegan? We already know of the Preta Path, but he showed us the Rinnegan so he could develop the intensity into Madara's final attack. That's how the manga was developed.

Just put your common sense into it, and you will understand.

Itachi wasnt tryin to kill anyone in the begin so ofcourse he wouldnt use his Amateraus, But u ems to get susanoo. how bout we just say if u have Ems in sasunoo u can do in it n if u have rinnegan in sasunoo u can do it?

 

[YellowFang]

WTF???
Did someone said how Hashirama SURVIVED??? I think Madara was the one who survived that battle..
Hashirama is super-beast in Narutoverse, even current Edo-Madara can't defeat him easily...

 

[Kerrah]

Itachi wasnt tryin to kill anyone in the begin so ofcourse he wouldnt use his Amateraus, But u ems to get susanoo. how bout we just say if u have Ems in sasunoo u can do in it n if u have rinnegan in sasunoo u can do it?

Like I said before, It's an inconclusive thought, I don't know whether I'm right, I'm only supporting evidence to why I believe I could be right. Same for you, only time will tell.

 

[Blaze Release]

There is still a mystery about what really happened.
I mean at first we thought hashirama fought madara and hashirama won. Now we get info that madara fought for his dna. Now know that he fought along side the kyuubi. Then we got info that hashirama wrestled the control of the fox from madara and mito sealed it in her self.

What i would like to know is how hashirama died because he died at a young age. Edo tensei brings the dead back to way they were before they died and when oro summoned the 1st and 2nd they looked young. We know that tobirama died fairly young when he fought those 20 ninja's after passing the hokage title to sarutobi.

We still dont know how hashirama died

 

[Mortal]

Like I said before, It's an inconclusive thought, I don't know whether I'm right, I'm only supporting evidence to why I believe I could be right. Same for you, only time will tell.

But u dont have ems u cant get sasunoo right, an u need sasunoo for the meateor so without ems no meteor

 

[Mortal]

There is still a mystery about what really happened.
I mean at first we thought hashirama fought madara and hashirama won. Now we get info that madara fought for his dna. Now know that he fought along side the kyuubi. Then we got info that hashirama wrestled the control of the fox from madara and mito sealed it in her self.

What i would like to know is how hashirama died because he died at a young age. Edo tensei brings the dead back to way they were before they died and when oro summoned the 1st and 2nd they looked young. We know that tobirama died fairly young when he fought those 20 ninja's after passing the hokage title to sarutobi.

We still dont know how hashirama died

Hashirama died in either the 1st shinobi war or one of them

 

[Kerrah]

But u dont have ems u cant get sasunoo right, an u need sasunoo for the meateor so without ems no meteor

Technically, you need a Mangekoyu Sharingan, with EMS you get two Susanoo's. And you can unlock the Rinnegan after the EMS. And the meteor is still not certain, but I'm leaning more towards it being a conjunction between Rinnegan and Susanoo, not EMS and Susanoo.

 

[Owarij]

There is still a mystery about what really happened.
I mean at first we thought hashirama fought madara and hashirama won. Now we get info that madara fought for his dna. Now know that he fought along side the kyuubi. Then we got info that hashirama wrestled the control of the fox from madara and mito sealed it in her self.

What i would like to know is how hashirama died because he died at a young age. Edo tensei brings the dead back to way they were before they died and when oro summoned the 1st and 2nd they looked young. We know that tobirama died fairly young when he fought those 20 ninja's after passing the hokage title to sarutobi.

We still dont know how hashirama died

Hashirama died shortly after his battle with Madara.... Before the first shinobi war, Tobirama was hokage at that time