How Did Madara surpass Hashirama??

[KingHashirama]

Legit question.. How did Madara surpass Hashirama? Is there any proof? or has it been stated?

 

[sage mode beat down]

traning ????

 

[-Carnage-]

well...since he has hashi's power now...and is immortal with unlimited chakra...but im just guessing

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Perfected Edo.

 

[~Puppet Master~]

Rinnegan, Mokuton, Edo Tensei, meteors etc.

 

[jiraiya lives]

madara is now immortal, has unlimited chakara, rinnagan, and part of hashi's power

 

[KingHashirama]

well...since he has hashi's power now...and is immortal with unlimited chakra...but im just guessing

Mokuton is a KKG..... which was used by Hashirama, That wasn't his only power. PS is enough for just Mokuton. Common dude make some sense.

Perfected Edo.

And on the other hand you have a Senju who is good in sealing... Why does the "Edo" even matter.

madara is now immortal, has unlimited chakara, rinnagan, and part of hashi's power

Has he shown that he can beat him? or are you just speculating?

 

[Retsu]

Are you kidding? Madara has rinnegan and Mokuton as well as EMS, He way past hashi right now

 

[KobayashiShane]

Rinnegan, Mokuton, Edo Tensei, meteors etc.

this

 

[KingHashirama]

Are you kidding? Madara has rinnegan and Mokuton as well as EMS, He way past hashi right now

Baka.. lmaooo. even Brain isn't stupid as you people. And how does that make him stronger then a guy who smashed him?. And his strongest attack is still a EMS attack. And again, how has he surpassed Hashirama, when we don't know Hashirama's true power.. lmaoo.

 

[-Carnage-]

Mokuton is a KKG..... which was used by Hashirama, That wasn't his only power. PS is enough for just Mokuton. Common dude make some sense.



And on the other hand you have a Senju who is good in sealing... Why does the "Edo" even matter.

what do you mean...do you not read the manga....madara has mokuton now and hashi supposedly never saw madara use ps...and madara's immortal so he heals automatically...and hashi knows one sealing tech...hashi loses this battle...

 

[KingHashirama]

what do you mean...do you not read the manga....madara has mokuton now and hashi supposedly never saw madara use ps...and madara's immortal so he heals automatically...and hashi knows one sealing tech...hashi loses this battle...

There is no supposedly.. Unless its said that P.S is not a ems move and Madara didn't use it .. We can conclude that he has used it. Madara's immortal.. and yet he can be sealed.. aka killed aka defeated. How does hashirama loose this battle? Can you provide Hashirama's true powers? Or you idiots just making assumptions that Hashirama only had mokuton? Regeneration > Edo tensei healing. Edo tensei takes to much time. lmao Bakas

 

[cLang cLang]

He got help from Kabuto.

 

[Retsu]

Baka.. lmaooo. even Brain isn't stupid as you people. And how does that make him stronger then a guy who smashed him?. And his strongest attack is still a EMS attack. And again, how has he surpassed Hashirama, when we don't know Hashirama's true power.. lmaoo.

Whatever, you're just a fanboy who's riding hashi's wood, Madara surpassed him when he unlocked rinnegan, hell, Kabuto with SM surpasses hashi, lol, but I can tell just by your name that you're gonna disagree with anyone who says anything other than "I want hashi's wood in me right now"

I should have known better than to reply to your thread when I saw your name and avvy

 

[TurrinB]

He got Hashirama's powers on top of his own + Rinnegan + Edo Buffs.

 

[TheSages456]

its a manga fact that madara in general is weaker than hashirama

edo madaras full power: perfect susano

living madaras full power: perfect susano

hashiramas full power>perfect susano

conclusion: madaras fanboys are getting wet over his new powers unnecessarily and the only thing that his new powerups gave him was the ability to overwhelm the 5 kages without perfect susano.

 

[Djokovic]

Hashi defeated EMS Madara with extreme difficulty, he even turned Kyuubi against Madara. Look how ****ed up Hashi looks after their battle.

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Do you really think Hashi can handle Unlimited PS, EMS, Rinnegan, Mokuton and Susano clones?

 

[TheSages456]

Hashi defeated EMS Madara with extreme difficulty, he even turned Kyuubi against Madara. Look how ****ed up Hashi looks after their battle.

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Do you really think Hashi can handle Unlimited PS, EMS, Rinnegan, Mokuton and Susano clones?

hmm..lets see hashirama>perfect susano>>>>>mokuton(madaras version)>rinnegan

 

[Djokovic]

hmm..lets see hashirama>perfect susano>>>>>mokuton(madaras version)>rinnegan

We dont know that yet. Madara said everyone who saw the PS died...
Btw how does Hashirama counter the Gedo Mazou? We dont know anything about their fight, only that Hashi won with extreme difficulty.
Thats enough to savely assume he would never defeat current Madara.

 

[TheSages456]

We dont know that yet. Madara said everyone who saw the PS died...
Btw how does Hashirama counter the Gedo Mazou? We dont know anything about their fight, only that Hashi won with extreme difficulty.
Thats enough to savely assume he would never defeat current Madara.

it doesnt matter what you think. perfect susano is still madaras full power and hashirama trumps that. the only thing that madaras new powers gave him is the ability to overwhelm the kages without perfect susano. that is all. there is nothing special about edo madara and his feats dont suggest that his full power changed from when he was alive.