How did Kakashi obtained his MS ?!

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Yes, I know that Sharingan cannot copy MS techs. they can't even copy any advance tech. (death seal, thunder god) or techs. that take preperation.

But I have disagree with you on the fact that MS is a KG. If thats what your trying to say because it's just an ability between group of people also known as clan (Uchiha, Hyuuga). It's true that Sharingan is a bloodline but doesn't mean its a KG. Unless you could show me some evidence.
I know Naruto-Wiki isn't a good source but I don't feel like finding the manga chapters. Here are explanations of what Kekkei Genkai is. It's the same as bloodline limit basically in Japanese. Sharingan, Byakugan and Rinnegan are all Dojutsus but they're Kekkei Genkais nonetheless. Sharingan = Uchiha, Byakugan = Hyuga, Rinnegan = So6P.

Kekkei genkai (่ก€็ถ™้™็•Œ; Literally meaning "a technique limited to inheritance by blood" or "Bloodline Limit")






EDIT: In saying that, MS is indeed an advanced kekkei genkai :)
 
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I know Naruto-Wiki isn't a good source but I don't feel like finding the manga chapters. Here are explanations of what Kekkei Genkai is. It's the same as bloodline limit basically in Japanese. Sharingan, Byakugan and Rinnegan are all Dojutsus but they're Kekkei Genkais nonetheless. Sharingan = Uchiha, Byakugan = Hyuga, Rinnegan = So6P.

Kekkei genkai (่ก€็ถ™้™็•Œ; Literally meaning "a technique limited to inheritance by blood" or "Bloodline Limit")






EDIT: In saying that, MS is indeed an advanced kekkei genkai :)
Don't feel like bringing up the chapter again but Itachis says to Kakashi it is a KG before striking him with Tsukoyomi.
 

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It doesn't matter if MS is KG or not, it cannot be copied anyway. You cannot copy a body part with sharingan, nor it's unique blood. It would be like copying Deidaras mouths on his palms and chest or that foul chakra of the anime filler guy. MS is not a jutsu, it's the same sharingan eye but more advanced. No matter if it's 1 tomoe or it is EMS but it is still an SHARINGAN EYE.
 

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Yes, ofcourse we know a sharingan cannot copy MS or any of its techs. just that one guy here thinks that.

@Inception

From your sources it does indeed say that sharingan is KG. Did not know that till now.

@Stampy

I watched the video never read the manga chapter but Itachi only talks about bloodline limit to Kakashi
 

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Yes, ofcourse we know a sharingan cannot copy MS or any of its techs. just that one guy here thinks that.

@Inception

From your sources it does indeed say that sharingan is KG. Did not know that till now.

@Stampy

I watched the video never read the manga chapter but Itachi only talks about bloodline limit to Kakashi
Watched it again recently in english (english voices eurk...) And he says Kenkei genkei saying Kakashi doesn't have it.
 

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Hahahah. I know it's werid hearing it in english. Some of the techs are prounced or called different too
That's what bother's me the most. After living in the US for a couple years now I have learned that they just can't pronounce the R sound (as in Raikiri for example) for shit!!!!! Sooo rasengan, raikiri, amateresu everything would sound bad.... This episode of itachi vs Kakashi was the only one I watched in english.... but before that I had the NSUNS2 in english too so.... quickly switched it to japenese !!!! Can't understand it at all but DAMN it sounds so much better xd
 

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Nah I understand what he is trying to say. His theory is; normal Sharingan is able to copy MS. He's saying Kakashi copied Itachi's Tsukiyomi which made him learn MS. Kamui is related to Itachi's Tsukiyomi because of the Space-Time Dimensional thing.. Funny because Tsukiyomi is just an illusion where-as Kamui is a physical jutsu.

Sharingan can't copy any Kekkei Genkai techniques and Mangekyou Sharingan's Tsukiyomi is a Kekkei Genkai. Sharingan in itself is a bloodline limit. It's been stated and proven.




Been stated twice that Madara took his brother's eyes. Itachi said Madara forcefully took it while Madara claims that his brother volunteered to give his eyes up.



your #2 is asking where it states that Madara/ Izuna killed their friends in order to get MS. Itachi confirmed this and so has Madara.



i get what you're saying but if MS can really be copied, there would be no point to Madara or Uchiha or even Itachi. I don't see how it makes sense either. If obtaining MS was this easy then there's no point of cursed Uchiha history. Remember the Uchihas even turned their backs on Madara since he killed his friends and took his brother's eyes to increase his own power. This was one of the factor that made Hashirama the leader of Leaf.

Also if Kakashi really did copy Itachi's MS then why doesn't he use Tsukiyomi? His MS is different, his technique is different. Itachi used a genjutsu on him and controlled the time and space of which the genjutsu lasted. He did not physically transport Kakashi into another dimension. Kakashi learned it over the time-skip probably by training his eye. There's no way a MS can be copied sorry.
I know he took his brothers eyes dats not what stampy said..what I was asking is were did it say day killed der friends? can u site were it is in da manga please I don't remember dat
 

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That's what bother's me the most. After living in the US for a couple years now I have learned that they just can't pronounce the R sound (as in Raikiri for example) for shit!!!!! Sooo rasengan, raikiri, amateresu everything would sound bad.... This episode of itachi vs Kakashi was the only one I watched in english.... but before that I had the NSUNS2 in english too so.... quickly switched it to japenese !!!! Can't understand it at all but DAMN it sounds so much better xd
Not to be rude but yes americans can prounce most the techs for shit. In NSUNS2 in the start it's already in english I'm like wtf I already started story so switched it to Japanese and begin story again lol

I know he took his brothers eyes dats not what stampy said..what I was asking is were did it say day killed der friends? can u site were it is in da manga please I don't remember dat
Here's a link



Not really stating they killed their friends here but if you watch the anime when Itachi and Sasuke battle is about to begin but before that their just using genjutsu and talking about Madara it actually shows you, I'm pretty sure
 

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Not to be rude but yes americans can prounce most the techs for shit. In NSUNS2 in the start it's already in english I'm like wtf I already started story so switched it to Japanese and begin story again lol



Here's a link



Not really stating they killed their friends here but if you watch the anime when Itachi and Sasuke battle is about to begin but before that their just using genjutsu and talking about Madara it actually shows you, I'm pretty sure
Yeah its in the anime only I guess My bad then!!! (Don't know if it is an actual source :S)
But you can see blood in one panel (the one before you linked) so it implies it.

as for "Not to be rude but yes americans can prounce most the techs for shit. " You meant can or can'T ?! Cause when they ask me how to pronounce stuff from my language (which I shall let you guess XD) they all fail, and the R is very similar to the japenese R.
 

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Also speak frankly, I will not hold it against you for such a comment. They just can't pronounce anything else than english correctly. For some........ I know some americans that can't even pronounce american english or even english for that matter for shit either....
 

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Not to be rude but yes americans can prounce most the techs for shit. In NSUNS2 in the start it's already in english I'm like wtf I already started story so switched it to Japanese and begin story again lol



Here's a link



Not really stating they killed their friends here but if you watch the anime when Itachi and Sasuke battle is about to begin but before that their just using genjutsu and talking about Madara it actually shows you, I'm pretty sure
Yea lol thanx but dat did not help at all but I will look at da anime later but it is known dat what happens in da anime don't always follow da manga
 

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Also speak frankly, I will not hold it against you for such a comment. They just can't pronounce anything else than english correctly. For some........ I know some americans that can't even pronounce american english or even english for that matter for shit either....
I hate when americans make fun of people from different countries because of their english, I mean come on you go their and try learning their language it wouldn't sound any different.


Yea lol thanx but dat did not help at all but I will look at da anime later but it is known dat what happens in da anime don't always follow da manga
heres the link to the anime



go to 7 mins and 30 seconds in, it shows you them kill 2 Uchiha's known as their friends to awaken MS
 
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i think he get ms just that moment when he got that, i mean obito gived ms for kakashi and later died ,so kakashi seen and cryed
Obito gave Sharingan to Kakashi, not MS.....

I hate when americans make fun of people from different countries because of their english, I mean come on you go their and try learning their language it wouldn't sound any different.
It would sound nicer :D No kidding, you do make a point there though !
 

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Yea lol thanx but dat did not help at all but I will look at da anime later but it is known dat what happens in da anime don't always follow da manga
- bottom part u can see blood "and soon".


- read what Itachi says
- Madara claims to "exhaust" all resources; friends and his brother. I think that says enough about how he got his "flawess Mangekyou Sharingan".
 

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- bottom part u can see blood "and soon".


- read what Itachi says
- Madara claims to "exhaust" all resources; friends and his brother. I think that says enough about how he got his "flawess Mangekyou Sharingan".
Thank-you I see but dat is still not saying dat ms can't be copied however unlikely kakashi had no close friends or a brother...so all dat is left is da "everything" part
 
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