How did hashirama beat madara

[AlphaMaleLion]

Since nobody has provided the correct answer I'll go ahead and help you out.

Madara lost because he's just that much weaker than Hashirama. No, it did not take Senju ganging up on him for 24 hrs. Hashirama beat his ass after 24 hrs and Madara needed Kurama to match his power the second time around, and no, Izanagi would not have saved Madara as he did not have the chakra to maintain Sharingan in their last clash let alone the chakra to use Izanagi.

Wrong , mangafacts stated that it was 24h when he was first on his back , with senjus. I can provide the scan for you .

 

[Greatness23]

:lol Why don't you address the points made instead of being an echo? This was addressed. Try again.



Wrong. What was shown is that Madara attacked Hashirama after gaining EMS and then the Senju were looking over a defeated Madara. Where does it state that the Senju ganged up on Madara? :lol Nowhere. Please stop making things up.

You didn't make any points though? lmao. Trash af. Fact is, though he went down as the loser in history, Mad dawg could have taken that dub. His wounds were fatal and he used Izanagi to bring himself back to life (you should've read that already, I will not spend 40 minutes linking pages) Had he only lived for the moment, Hashi and the leaf would've been wiped off the map much sooner than they did *Pain Solos*

 

[KidGamer65]

You didn't make any points though? lmao. Trash af. Fact is, though he went down as the loser in history, Mad dawg could have taken that dub. His wounds were fatal and he used Izanagi to bring himself back to life (you should've read that already, I will not spend 40 minutes linking pages) Had he only lived for the moment, Hashi and the leaf would've been wiped off the map much sooner than they did *Pain Solos*

Lmao dude, shut the hell up. If you aren't going to argue like you have common sense you have no reason to quote me.

Fact: Madara couldn't use Sharingan during the last fight.
Fact: You can't use Izanagi without Sharingan.
Fact: He had to set it up beforehand.
Fact: You can't read, because if you could you'd know this was all addressed and you're being nothing but an echo for another horrible poster.
Fact: You clearly have no idea what you are talking about but I can't say I'm surprised. Jesus you fanboys kill me.

S/N: Dead @ the bold. What are you? Slow? It doesn't take 40 minutes or even 10 to link a page. :lol

Wrong , mangafacts stated that it was 24h when he was first on his back , with senjus. I can provide the scan for you .

No, it said 24 hrs and he was finally defeated. All you see are the Senju standing near him. Show me where they all fought him or you don't have a point.

And do NOT post a scan because I've seen it.

Could be wrong. But i don't think he was out of chakra at that time. I think he just deactivated it like Sasuke did vs Deidara. Then when he got stabbed he used a time delay Izanagi to fake his death(the scar kinda proves it wasn't before) tho the real question would be how long was he presumed dead before his Izanagi activated and used kage bunshin to replace his dead body.

This doesn't make sense. So he deactivated his Sharingan and then used Transcription Seal: Izanagi, which is a jutsu that requires the Sharingan in the first place? Nah. The bold also isn't how Izanagi works. Transcription Seal lets you activate it when the conditions are met. What you are saying is that he activated Izanagi, but it didn't resolve and revive him until much later on.

The scar point is also bad because if activated Izanagi when he got stabbed he'd come back with no scar.

 

[Reboryushon]

By being better, of course.

 

[56697]

you uchiha fappers cant let nothing go always wanna rewrite the story

 

[Styles]

Lmao dude, shut the hell up. If you aren't going to argue like you have common sense you have no reason to quote me.

Fact: Madara couldn't use Sharingan during the last fight.
Fact: You can't use Izanagi without Sharingan.
Fact: He had to set it up beforehand.
Fact: You can't read, because if you could you'd know this was all addressed and you're being nothing but an echo for another horrible poster.
Fact: You clearly have no idea what you are talking about but I can't say I'm surprised. Jesus you fanboys kill me.

S/N: Dead @ the bold. What are you? Slow? It doesn't take 40 minutes or even 10 to link a page. :lol



No, it said 24 hrs and he was finally defeated. All you see are the Senju standing near him. Show me where they all fought him or you don't have a point.

And do NOT post a scan because I've seen it.



This doesn't make sense. So he deactivated his Sharingan and then used Transcription Seal: Izanagi, which is a jutsu that requires the Sharingan in the first place? Nah. The bold also isn't how Izanagi works. Transcription Seal lets you activate it when the conditions are met. What you are saying is that he activated Izanagi, but it didn't resolve and revive him until much later on.

The scar point is also bad because if activated Izanagi when he got stabbed he'd come back with no scar.

I mean it's a possibility Sasuke did it vs Diedara when he summoned and put manda in genjutsu after deactivating it.

No what i meant was what if he used it after getting stabbed so he could fake his death. Because like Danzo(although incomplete) he revived with no scars and iirc same as Obito. That's why i said could be wrong since Izanagi is suppose to bring you back with no injuries and Madara still had his injury.

 

[Greatness23]

Lmao dude, shut the hell up. If you aren't going to argue like you have common sense you have no reason to quote me.

Fact: Madara couldn't use Sharingan during the last fight.
Fact: You can't use Izanagi without Sharingan.
Fact: He had to set it up beforehand.
Fact: You can't read, because if you could you'd know this was all addressed and you're being nothing but an echo for another horrible poster.
Fact: You clearly have no idea what you are talking about but I can't say I'm surprised. Jesus you fanboys kill me.

S/N: Dead @ the bold. What are you? Slow? It doesn't take 40 minutes or even 10 to link a page. :lol



No, it said 24 hrs and he was finally defeated. All you see are the Senju standing near him. Show me where they all fought him or you don't have a point.

And do NOT post a scan because I've seen it.



This doesn't make sense. So he deactivated his Sharingan and then used Transcription Seal: Izanagi, which is a jutsu that requires the Sharingan in the first place? Nah. The bold also isn't how Izanagi works. Transcription Seal lets you activate it when the conditions are met. What you are saying is that he activated Izanagi, but it didn't resolve and revive him until much later on.

The scar point is also bad because if activated Izanagi when he got stabbed he'd come back with no scar.

Man prove me wrong then, you doing exactly what I'm doing DA.

 

[adamhill302]

:lol Why don't you address the points made instead of being an echo? This was addressed. Try again.



Wrong. What was shown is that Madara attacked Hashirama after gaining EMS and then the Senju were looking over a defeated Madara. Where does it state that the Senju ganged up on Madara? :lol Nowhere. Please stop making things up.

I mean it was not stated it was implied if he's surrounded with tobirama with a sword to his head. They were involved in the fight. Madara attacked them by himself

 

[Edogawa]

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Not sure what this fuss is all about, but it's clearly shown the Senju Clan fought Madara at that time. You could tell that by the damage Tobirama got. Uchiha Clan didn't aid Madara at the time, since the previous panel states they abandoned him. This hints Madara at that time was stronger than Hashirama, since the Senju aided him in defeating Madara. Anyone who denies blatant facts should be banned.

 

[KidGamer65]

I mean it's a possibility Sasuke did it vs Diedara when he summoned and put manda in genjutsu after deactivating it.

No what i meant was what if he used it after getting stabbed so he could fake his death. Because like Danzo(although incomplete) he revived with no scars and iirc same as Obito. That's why i said could be wrong since Izanagi is suppose to bring you back with no injuries and Madara still had his injury.

Sasuke had a reason to deactivate his Sharingan. The battle was pretty much over from his viewpoint. Madara was still fighting. Him deactivating Sharingan doesn't make sense.

Izanagi probably just rewrote him dying and not him getting stabbed.

Man prove me wrong then, you doing exactly what I'm doing DA.

:lol Quote me when you have something of substance to say.

I mean it was not stated it was implied if he's surrounded with tobirama with a sword to his head. They were involved in the fight. Madara attacked them by himself

Fine. More than just Hashirama fought against Madara, which broke their stalemate.

 

[DiamondxDust]

Madara's my fav, but this is ridiculous. Madara openly admitted inferiority to Hashirama, lost to him twice on screen, and several more times offscreen. Hashirama was just that good. You'd think people would've accepted his after seeing his Shinsuusenju demolish a PS clad Kyuubi in a matter of seconds. Only after unlocking the Rinnegan did Madara surpass him.

 

[Made in Heaven]

The gap between Hashirama's power and Madara's is hilariously laughable when you consider they were described as equals.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

It’s 2017 and people still cry plot armor every time an uchiha loses...

 

[BladelImmortal]

Without Kurama, Madara would be murdered.