How could Indras Arrow tie?

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The explanations in this thread are pile of junk.

Naruto's attacks have Chakra ratio as explained. If that Chakra ratio is somehow disturbed, the Jutsu will explode. Naruto used Bijuu Dama Rasenshuriken and another Rasenshuriken; both Jutsu as explained by Killer Bee, have balanced ratio especially the TBB of a 8:2. It did not need to be as strong as Indra's Arrow. In fact, it was a lot weaker with Indra Arrow carrying the Yin Rikudou Chakra as well as 8 Bijuu Chakra, in comparison to Naruto only having the available Natural Energy around Valley of End.

Indra's Arrow simply collided and ended up disturbing the ratio which caused Naruto's attack and Sasuke's attack to explode.
 

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Let me make this simple:

A chopper drops an atomic bomb and and a guy shoots a bullet at it seconds after it was dropped and the explosion harmed them both.

meaning naruto's attack wasn't stronger than Indra's arrow it's just exploded in their faces that's all.

and for those who say naruto was holding back sasuke stated before he had thrown his attack that he was serious so that was his strongest since he used ashura avatar and all 6 hands to make those 2 TBBRS infused with chakra from the whole planet.
 

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Of course he had bijuu chakra dafuq are you talking abour :leaf:

I said during the fight, he has bijuu chakra in general but he didn't have it in the fight.
 

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Wow, how can Sasuke's assumptions = Naruto's intentions? He used that to cancel out Sasuke's attacks, like he did during the whole fight. He already said that he won't kill Sasuke and he won't let Sasuke kill him. That means he didn't want to kill Sasuke. Naruto always sticks to his nindo and never goes back on his words. I'm surprised that most people still don't get that, even now.

I'm surprised that most people still think not wanting to do something means you didn't do it. If Naruto wasn't intending to kill Sasuke, he wouldn't have put so much of his Nature Energy into that one attack. Not only that, but Naruto was going to drive a Rasengan straight into Sasuke, the likes of which can kill a man.
 

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We don't know the amount of bijuu chakra sasuke had and naruto had elemental advantage plus natural chakra, which is pretty beast

Sasuke had enough bijuu chakra to literally fill up his entire PS which is like a skyscraper amount of bijuu chakra! We've never seen naruto with that much bijuu chakra. Entirety of bijuu chakra=entirety of natural energy apparently
 

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I'm surprised that most people still think not wanting to do something means you didn't do it. If Naruto wasn't intending to kill Sasuke, he wouldn't have put so much of his Nature Energy into that one attack. Not only that, but Naruto was going to drive a Rasengan straight into Sasuke, the likes of which can kill a man.

Naruto had to put natural energy to cancel out the huge amount of chakra from nine bijuus that sasuke was using in his attack, he has been doing this all throughout the fight, using jutsus to cancel out attacks when he sees sasuke attack

rasengan doesn't kill if the user doesn't intend to, can be used to simply subdue anyone

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when naruto himself has said it that he doesn't want to kill him, why is it a debate
 

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Naruto had to put natural energy to cancel out the huge amount of chakra from nine bijuus, he has been doing this all throughout the fight, using jutsus to cancel out sasuke's attacks

rasengan doesn't kill if the user doesn't intend to, can be used to simply subdue anyone

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when naruto himself has said it that he doesn't want to kill him, why is it a debate

You're comparing Naruto's EOS Rasengan, to that puny part one Rasengan? Okay.

And what part of "Doesn't want to does not mean didn't" is so hard to understand? If Naruto was just trying to cancel Sasuke's technique, he could have used his TSB and some of the Nature Energy.
 

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You're comparing Naruto's EOS Rasengan, to that puny part one Rasengan? Okay.

And what part of "Doesn't want to does not mean didn't" is so hard to understand? If Naruto was just trying to cancel Sasuke's technique, he could have used his TSB and some of the Nature Energy.

Tsb can't block it. Especially since he only had 3.
 

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You're comparing Naruto's EOS Rasengan, to that puny part one Rasengan? Okay.

The back tracking is real, might I remind you that jiraiya's "puny part one" rasengan can do this

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Yet the man didnt have the hole in his chest and die, you can go and look back

Reason being Jiraiya didnt thrust enough and the man was simply blown away and was alive and talking
Any rasengan can be used in a similar way by holding back

And what part of "Doesn't want to does not mean didn't" is so hard to understand? If Naruto was just trying to cancel Sasuke's technique, he could have used his TSB and some of the Nature Energy.

The rasenshuriken was intended to cancel out the arrow and it did exactly that, naruto preparing the rasenshuriken after he saw sasuke preparing the arrow, it was meant for the arrow and the arrow only.

If naruto felt frs would be appropriate for the job and not tsb then thats that, tsb have a limit to how much they can expand and cover, that may have contributed to him switching to frs
 

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I probably just forgot this and that. So feel free to solo this with a one sentence post.

Indras Arrow had the power of Sasuke + Bijuu chakra

Narutos attack had the power of Naruto + Bijuu chakra + Kurama + Senjutsu + Fuuton>Raiton advantage

Naruto´s jutsu = fuuton + senjutsu + Kurama´s chakra

Indra arrow = Raiton + BijuuS chakra

Naruto didnt use other bijuus chakra just Kurama´s
 

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Naruto=Spam/quantity
Sasuke=Skill/quality

Naruto is a button masher who finally managed to tie with the guy who knows all the combos (Sasuke) after getting his ass handed to him throughout the series.
 

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Naruto=Spam/quantity
Sasuke=Skill/quality

Naruto is a button masher who finally managed to tie with the guy who knows all the combos (Sasuke) after getting his ass handed to him throughout the series.

That has been the exact opposite after both gained ther Rikudou Chakra. The VOTE fight just makes it more evident.

That was right for Part 1 and a good chunk of Part 2, but Kishimoto ****ed that parallel up along many others.
 

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Thread got solo'd.

Funny thing is right before they fought the sage clearly stated naruto is the biju meeting place since he has ALL their chakra....

This means he still had the biju

On top sasuke didn't take all yje biju chakra as seen when he released ct they weren't sleep or non existing

Thread not solo'd
 

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Naruto had to put natural energy to cancel out the huge amount of chakra from nine bijuus that sasuke was using in his attack, he has been doing this all throughout the fight, using jutsus to cancel out attacks when he sees sasuke attack

rasengan doesn't kill if the user doesn't intend to, can be used to simply subdue anyone

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when naruto himself has said it that he doesn't want to kill him, why is it a debate

Lmao rasengan CAN'T KILL NEVER HAS NEVER WILL EVEN IF A DIRECT HIT

Rasen shuriken can it can chop u in half
 

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Naruto´s jutsu = fuuton + senjutsu + Kurama´s chakra

Indra arrow = Raiton + BijuuS chakra

Naruto didnt use other bijuus chakra just Kurama´s

Nope, both Sasuke and Naruto hold bits of the bijuus chakra, Naruto has it within himself while Sasuke has it within his Susano'o, both of them combined bijuu chakra with their attacks

Sasuke used raiton while no tailed beast have the ability to use lighting, Sasuke simply used their chakra to boost his attack same with Naruto
 

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The explanations in this thread are pile of junk.

Naruto's attacks have Chakra ratio as explained. If that Chakra ratio is somehow disturbed, the Jutsu will explode. Naruto used Bijuu Dama Rasenshuriken and another Rasenshuriken; both Jutsu as explained by Killer Bee, have balanced ratio especially the TBB of a 8:2. It did not need to be as strong as Indra's Arrow. In fact, it was a lot weaker with Indra Arrow carrying the Yin Rikudou Chakra as well as 8 Bijuu Chakra, in comparison to Naruto only having the available Natural Energy around Valley of End.

Indra's Arrow simply collided and ended up disturbing the ratio which caused Naruto's attack and Sasuke's attack to explode.

Let me make this simple:

A chopper drops an atomic bomb and and a guy shoots a bullet at it seconds after it was dropped and the explosion harmed them both.

meaning naruto's attack wasn't stronger than Indra's arrow it's just exploded in their faces that's all.

and for those who say naruto was holding back sasuke stated before he had thrown his attack that he was serious so that was his strongest since he used ashura avatar and all 6 hands to make those 2 TBBRS infused with chakra from the whole planet.

I could use that argument to argue for Naruto as well. I could claim Naruto's attack was stronger and IA simply caused it to explode.
Also in your example, Tbb rasenshuriken is more of a nuke than IA. Infact we don't even know if IA explodes on its own.
 

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but he did :/

If he did, why didn't he use the bijuu techs like Steam Punch or Magnet release rasengan which would have helped him out a lot?
 
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