How could Indras Arrow tie?

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I probably just forgot this and that. So feel free to solo this with a one sentence post.

Indras Arrow had the power of Sasuke + Bijuu chakra

Narutos attack had the power of Naruto + Bijuu chakra + Kurama + Senjutsu + Fuuton>Raiton advantage
 

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Inb4 the rush of Naruto fans to defend him :coffee:

OT:These are manga facts though, naruto fans feel free to deny or make an excuse.
 

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Sasuke's attack arguably had more chakra put into it with the chakra of 8 full bijuu + 50% Kurama. Naruto's attacks likely had less chakra, but had the elemental advantage, likely causing the two to cancel each other out.
 
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You are Probably right .. You will rustle some Jimmie now though .
 

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Naruto needed to use all of his efforts and Kurama needed to use all of his efforts in order to match Lord Sasuke's fierce power.
 

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I probably just forgot this and that. So feel free to solo this with a one sentence post.

Indras Arrow had the power of Sasuke + 8 and half Bijuu chakra

Narutos attack had the power of Naruto + Half Kurama + Senjutsu + Fuuton>Raiton advantage but IA was not a pure raiton attack

This is what really happened
 

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He never had Bijuu chakra in the fight, he was nerfed from it. Sasuke had Raiton + Sage of the six paths chakra + Ichibi + Nibi + Sanbi + four tails + five tails + six tails + seven tails + eight tails + half of nine tails for Indra's arrow im actually urprised Indra's arrow didn't win too.. Sasuke fanboys usually try to deny this though.
 

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This is what really happened

We don't know how much chakra Sasuke took. It was for sure not the entire, because that would've killed all the Bijuu. And wasn't Naruto himself having chakra from all the Bijuu in his body at this point?
 

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We don't know how much chakra Sasuke took. It was for sure not the entire, because that would've killed all the Bijuu.

It is fair to assume that Sasuke had lot more power at his disposal than Naruto at that point since Yin Kurama was not at his peak as well after serving as battery for Yang Kurama and fighting against Kaguya

And wasn't Naruto himself having chakra from all the Bijuu in his body at this point?

Sasuke mentions it being too small to do Naruto any good at that point since he had more or less spent it during Kaguya fight
 

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Kurama seemingly is as strong as 7 other Bijuu combined. Sasuke had an equal amount of Kurama and an added Hachibi as well. This amount of extra chakra was enough to cancel the Senjutu and elemental advantage.

Basically,

Kurama ties Kurama
Hachibi ties miniscule Bijuu chakra and Senjutsu
 

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Kurama seemingly is as strong as 7 other Bijuu combined. Sasuke had an equal amount of Kurama and an added Hachibi as well. This amount of extra chakra was enough to cancel the Senjutu and elemental advantage.

Basically,

Kurama ties Kurama
Hachibi ties miniscule Bijuu chakra and Senjutsu

Makes sense. Thx.
 
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Sasuke's Indra arrow against Naruto's rasenshuriken were meant to stand for more than simply two strong attacks. They represented the uniqueness of the two characters, and was the culmination of both of their paths in life, so from the beginning more than anything else they were meant to cancel each other out completely. This is from both a narrative perspective and in-universe perspective, so keeping this in mind let us consider the attacks.

Sasuke, and the line of Indra transmigrants before him, represented power. However, there is an underlying meaning in the Japanese that may not be readily understood, and that is not power for power's sake, but the ability to dominate through power. The leader of ninshuu meant being in a position over others, controlling them (Hagoromo controlled, and had to decide on an heir to CONTROL) and Indra decided that the way he wants to CONTROL is through POWER. With that said, Sasuke using the bijuu chakra was different than Naruto using it because, though he used their power, it was done through him dominating them. He combined this power with his personal avatar of power, Susanoo. Sasuke's susanoo is the only one shown to have a bow, a unique trait to him alone. The significance of this means that Sasuke's strongest attacks are piercing powers (chidori, chidori eisou, susanoo arrow, etc.) and that combined the bijuu makes it one of the two strongest attacks available to anyone post Kaguya's defeat. Sasuke is the bow that guides (controls) the arrow which are the bijuu.

Naruto on the other hand represents domination through love. The ultimate showing of love is cooperation, and this applies to any interpretation of the word in any language. Naruto cooperates with his clones, He cooperates with the bijuu, and very significantly he cooperates with nature (sennin mode.) Using beast chakra, natural chakra, and his own chakra in the form of clones, he created the ONLY attack he has that is unique to him: rasenshuriken. I say this because no one else can use this technique, and is more of a representation of Naruto's ideal than just the rasengan. He also created two, just to show that even his attacks will be cooperating with each other to go against Sasuke's one arrow.

In short, the attacks are perfectly balanced because the characters using them are meant to be perfectly balanced. Balance also does not have to mean being of equal strength. Sasuke should be, for all intents and purposes, more powerful than Naruto. He has the rinnegan and all of the abilities that come with it. However, he only has one arm, so he cannot utilize hand seals. He has ocular jutsu to subjugate bijuu and human alike, but his friendship with Naruto keeps him from doing wrong anymore.

I hope that this was not too confusing.
 

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Sasuke's Indra arrow against Naruto's rasenshuriken were meant to stand for more than simply two strong attacks. They represented the uniqueness of the two characters, and was the culmination of both of their paths in life, so from the beginning more than anything else they were meant to cancel each other out completely. This is from both a narrative perspective and in-universe perspective, so keeping this in mind let us consider the attacks.

Sasuke, and the line of Indra transmigrants before him, represented power. However, there is an underlying meaning in the Japanese that may not be readily understood, and that is not power for power's sake, but the ability to dominate through power. The leader of ninshuu meant being in a position over others, controlling them (Hagoromo controlled, and had to decide on an heir to CONTROL) and Indra decided that the way he wants to CONTROL is through POWER. With that said, Sasuke using the bijuu chakra was different than Naruto using it because, though he used their power, it was done through him dominating them. He combined this power with his personal avatar of power, Susanoo. Sasuke's susanoo is the only one shown to have a bow, a unique trait to him alone. The significance of this means that Sasuke's strongest attacks are piercing powers (chidori, chidori eisou, susanoo arrow, etc.) and that combined the bijuu makes it one of the two strongest attacks available to anyone post Kaguya's defeat. Sasuke is the bow that guides (controls) the arrow which are the bijuu.

Naruto on the other hand represents domination through love. The ultimate showing of love is cooperation, and this applies to any interpretation of the word in any language. Naruto cooperates with his clones, He cooperates with the bijuu, and very significantly he cooperates with nature (sennin mode.) Using beast chakra, natural chakra, and his own chakra in the form of clones, he created the ONLY attack he has that is unique to him: rasenshuriken. I say this because no one else can use this technique, and is more of a representation of Naruto's ideal than just the rasengan. He also created two, just to show that even his attacks will be cooperating with each other to go against Sasuke's one arrow.

In short, the attacks are perfectly balanced because the characters using them are meant to be perfectly balanced. Balance also does not have to mean being of equal strength. Sasuke should be, for all intents and purposes, more powerful than Naruto. He has the rinnegan and all of the abilities that come with it. However, he only has one arm, so he cannot utilize hand seals. He has ocular jutsu to subjugate bijuu and human alike, but his friendship with Naruto keeps him from doing wrong anymore.

I hope that this was not too confusing.

How was the Japnese Reaction to Kaguya's Arrival in the Manga ?? Did they like that arc .. Many of Western Critics didn't like Kaguya's Arc though ..
 

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Sasuke's Indra arrow against Naruto's rasenshuriken were meant to stand for more than simply two strong attacks. They represented the uniqueness of the two characters, and was the culmination of both of their paths in life, so from the beginning more than anything else they were meant to cancel each other out completely. This is from both a narrative perspective and in-universe perspective, so keeping this in mind let us consider the attacks.

Sasuke, and the line of Indra transmigrants before him, represented power. However, there is an underlying meaning in the Japanese that may not be readily understood, and that is not power for power's sake, but the ability to dominate through power. The leader of ninshuu meant being in a position over others, controlling them (Hagoromo controlled, and had to decide on an heir to CONTROL) and Indra decided that the way he wants to CONTROL is through POWER. With that said, Sasuke using the bijuu chakra was different than Naruto using it because, though he used their power, it was done through him dominating them. He combined this power with his personal avatar of power, Susanoo. Sasuke's susanoo is the only one shown to have a bow, a unique trait to him alone. The significance of this means that Sasuke's strongest attacks are piercing powers (chidori, chidori eisou, susanoo arrow, etc.) and that combined the bijuu makes it one of the two strongest attacks available to anyone post Kaguya's defeat. Sasuke is the bow that guides (controls) the arrow which are the bijuu.

Naruto on the other hand represents domination through love. The ultimate showing of love is cooperation, and this applies to any interpretation of the word in any language. Naruto cooperates with his clones, He cooperates with the bijuu, and very significantly he cooperates with nature (sennin mode.) Using beast chakra, natural chakra, and his own chakra in the form of clones, he created the ONLY attack he has that is unique to him: rasenshuriken. I say this because no one else can use this technique, and is more of a representation of Naruto's ideal than just the rasengan. He also created two, just to show that even his attacks will be cooperating with each other to go against Sasuke's one arrow.

In short, the attacks are perfectly balanced because the characters using them are meant to be perfectly balanced. Balance also does not have to mean being of equal strength. Sasuke should be, for all intents and purposes, more powerful than Naruto. He has the rinnegan and all of the abilities that come with it. However, he only has one arm, so he cannot utilize hand seals. He has ocular jutsu to subjugate bijuu and human alike, but his friendship with Naruto keeps him from doing wrong anymore.

I hope that this was not too confusing.

Nice explanation, although the last part, Naruto won the fight against Sasuke before he lost his hand so im pretty sure Naruto is more powerful
 

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He never had Bijuu chakra in the fight, he was nerfed from it. Sasuke had Raiton + Sage of the six paths chakra + Ichibi + Nibi + Sanbi + four tails + five tails + six tails + seven tails + eight tails + half of nine tails for Indra's arrow im actually urprised Indra's arrow didn't win too.. Sasuke fanboys usually try to deny this though.
Thread got solo'd.
 

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We don't know how much chakra Sasuke took. It was for sure not the entire, because that would've killed all the Bijuu. And wasn't Naruto himself having chakra from all the Bijuu in his body at this point?

I don't think you can kill Bijuu, they are made of chakra, so they will just regenerate after some time.
 

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2 Rasenshuriken = Sasuke's strongest attack
3 Rasenshuriken > Sasuke's strongest attack


Indras Arrow had the power of Sasuke + Bijuu chakra

Narutos attack had the power of Naruto + Bijuu chakra + Fuuton>Raiton advantage

BTW, they both had Sage's Senjutsu, and Kurama is a Bijuu, lol
 
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Naruto clearly says he wasn't trying to kill Sasuke. So potentially that means he didn't even use his strongest possible attack/combination. Not to mention, both Sasuke and Naruto had Bijuu Chakra and Senjutsu from Hogo, and Kurama and Bijuu chakra should not be placed in seperate categories. You are just trying to add to the already contradicting list of add-ons.
 
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