Flames this length isn't only taking out a leg mooroonnnnnn
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dude seriously if you dont like to be disrespected than dont disrespect others. thats an advice for life. i dont care what you call me, i mean im not gunna go hang myself cuz of some douchebag called me moron online but how you expect me to even be reasonable with you?
i do believe i even admitted the chance Raikage could have lost more than just a leg. i even said he could have lost his life. but that leg drop would have done heavy damage as well..
btw like i said before you should have read EVERYTHING i said ass clown.
The raikage power drive... is sasukes susanoo visible no, so thats proof that sasuke could of still pulled out his susanoo skeleton if he wanted to.
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btw i love the pics. i told you before hopping in a discussion to do your homework and you did just that lol.. seriously good job
in this pic Sasuke's lower back is covered in dust. Sasunoo is not revealed until the dust blows over. the scene is meant to give a false sense that Sasuke was totally done with. but he wasnt, Raikage hit him with a 100% kill move, but of course Sasuke survives due to his skills and jutsus. so with all that being said the pic doesnt prove anything for you. and also i will add Sasunoo has a huge risk to he user.
you make it sound as if Sasuke can use Sasunoo whenever he please. yes he can but than he must endure extreme pains as i have proven in my last comment. just using level 1 and 2 made "every inch of his body" hurt. had the match lasted longer Sasuke would not have been able to keep his defenses up agaisnt Raikage to survive his attacks. this isproven that shortly after running away from Raikage, he ran out of chakra and found it difficult to sustain Sasunoo..
The raikage whole bottom body would have been gone.
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and your judging that off of 1 angle? dont be so haste. his back leg is stretched back pretty far and with this angle we arent sure if his whole bottom would have been gone. i'll say this though that i wouldnt rule it out. but i woulnt jump to that conclusion. and i stand as what i previously said many times that Raikage would have at least lost a leg.
sasuke neva spammed his susanoo because he never fullied used the whole susanoo skeleton.sasuke took on way more then the raikage thats why stupid 20 samurias the cloud jounin,raikage,mist jounin,mizukage,mifune,garra,sand jounin,tscukage so sasuke was royal rumbling.what the raikage only went against 3,2 not even only sasuke i dont consider Sugeistu or juugo even a real fight but still lost and arm.
never said he spammed Sasunoo. dont put words in my mouth or misquote me. i said he spammed MS. which include amaterasu. all MS techniques put a huge strain on the user. and thats a huge weakness and a big advantage to those with incredible chakras like Raikage. Raikage could out last a match agaisnt Sasuke because Sasuke's moves drains his chakra and stamina alot!
lets be real. the 20 samurais were no threat to Sasuke. that wasnt worth mentioning..
Raikage is the one who mostly fought with Sasuke, Darui and Shee supported Raikage but Jugo and Suigetsu also supported Sasuke. it was 3on3. but it eventually turned into a 1on1 between strictly just Sasuke and Raikage.
the rest was shortly after and each one of the ninjas that attacked Sasuke after Raikage only made one attack each. and it was until Mei that Sasuke was out of chakra and Zetsu had to even help him out.
but all in all people in this thread have tried to play that card too "Sasuke was outnumbered" but the one who fought him the most and dealt the most damage to him was Raikage. it was noted and noticed by Mei when she encountered him and i even posted the page in my last comment..
i like your second approach alot better but still no prize buddy.
It seems the true fate of the fight lies in the answer of if saskue could have activated lvl two susanoo fast enough to save him self against raikage's leg drop. My opinon is that raikage was moving way too fast for saskue to activate it that quickly but on the other hand, level 1 susanoo wasn't completely destroyed, my have had a couple broken ribs yes, but I definitely think it could of protected saskue against that leg drop to an extent then broke. Letting it take most of the damage but severely injuring saskue, leaving raikage to perish in amatarsu flames.
Its debatable I don't really like to entertain possibilities because it only stretches out the discussion and cancel facts. Gara intervene so the end result of that fight is really unknown.
I respect your point of view though
i se where your coming from but i believe the fate of the battle lies in the result of the last clash between Raikage and Sasuke. would it have resulted in Raikage completely going through Sasunoo? or Raikage being completely engulfed in black flames? those are the important questions. i dont beleive Sasuke would have activated level 2 Sasunoo. his primary focus was in his enton, his right eye is strained, hes covering his left eye, it takes both eyes to activate Sasunoo, but hes focusing on amaterasu.
Raikage proved that he was attacking through Sasukes defenses and even wearing out Sasunoo. thats whyi stand with Raikage and that he would win. but i am not saying he would come out the fight unscratched or that he would even survive the fight. but it would have been bad for both sides.
i respect your opinion too and respect how you expressed them
totally agree, both sides are possible... and it is pointless to argue how it would have really been because we will never truly know.but considering he is a main character, that makes him nearly unkillable for the story to continue.
the struggle that naruto is desperately trying to make on saving sasuke even now when the rest of the world lost their faith in him, (the entire leaf besides naruto, and the itachi even though he is deceased)
wouldnt be ended by some random character who has just recently been introduced into the anime.like come on, the raikage has been seen in what 5, maybe less chapters before sasuske vs raikage... he wouldnt stand a chance against Full susano... hell i dont thnk anyone could, especially after how danzo failed to defeat sasuke even though he couldnt die for like 15 minutes straight due to the izangi.
well of course Sasuke isnt going to die to a new character, and Raikage would have alot harder time fighting Sasuke with complete Sasunoo. thats all given.
but its really about if we had to put a title on the winner of when Raikage and Sasuke fought or had not Gaara intered what the outcome would have been.
my thoughts are even though the raikage is good he would have suffered and most likely died without gaara's intervention, he is fast but sasuke still has the sharingan and he has trained it to a great extent, even itachi was shocked by how well sasuke had mastered it and he even broke free of the tsukyomi with just a plain sharingan.... and the sharingan grant the user depending on how well they trained their eye, the ability to see things slowed down for him to dodge or see openings when the opponent is attacking, which means he is able to avoid a drop kick... especially if he has the susano ribs ready to ethier completely block the drop kick or slow it down enough for him to roll and avoid which then would end up with the raikage burning to death or if possible have half of his body removed and healed. (he would look like the guy from doom in the robotic wheel chair lol, binky.... at that point the raikage would be useless)
idk what do you think?
Sasuke's eye was not enough to compete with A. A was faster than the sharingan could see. even Bee was faster to be followedby Sasuke's sharingan. thats why he specifically told Karin to keep track of his chakra. A (assuming) is faster than Bee. A even said it himself that the sharingan wouldnt help Sasuke agaisnt him. but anyways this was all proven when Sasuke missed A with amaterasu by a mile and that very instant A was behind Sasuke. Sasuke wasnt going to dodge the leg drop. he was going to put his faith in amaterasu and Sasunoo. which i believe would still have killed him.
btw i love that comment in bold red. completel agree but dont say that to an Itachi fan or they'll witch hunt you lol
good points, i like how you added the picks to support what you were saying aswell lol.
but no need for name calling, its just pointless to take it to a level where it doesnt need to escalate the arguement from a good debatable topic to a continuing flameing war thats filled with nothing but hatred... lol we must try to find peace, and learn to not hate...
this goes for everyone
NarutoVsGoku...some of things you said before has only made the matter worse just as much as others have said bad things to you to also commit in escalating this to where it is now. lets just leave it at a cease fire on all sides.
lol agreed... 100%. on everything
well technically he wasnt friends with them, so that doesnt make him scum for the choice to leave them behind to kill someone of great evil(i know it doesnt make up for it, but since he is my favorite character i dont have much to go off since he has become evil) he is scum though for abandoning team 7 though, that i will not deny.
i disagree. it makes him scum. he assembled a team, they have supported and aided him, saved him on many accounts and than he abandons them, even tries to kill one of them. thats lower than scum. but that is just the character that he is slowly turning out to be which is not suprisinging..
just wondering but did eveyone forget that sasuke was becoming blind by the time he fought the raikage, he was struggling to focus on something before he even got to fight him (the glass of water he reached for and knocked over noticing that he was finding it alot harder to see).... lol raikage vs sasuke (half blind, exhausted, out numbered, and being group attacked.... raikage alone wouldnt have been able to deafeat sasuke if he wasnt becoming blind, and using a low level of the susano. trying to brag about that is just pointless, sasuke still had given the raikage a great fight despite all the disadvantages he had.)
way too many sasuke haters...
nobody is forgetting that.. its irrevelant facts to the discussion. he was half blind, not exhausted, out number? yes and no. he faired very well agaisnt group attacks
he killed about 20 samurais by himself
fought 3on3. Sasuke, Jugo and Sugetsu vs Raikage, Darui and Shi
it later turned into a 1on1 with just Ssauke and Raikage
defended agaisnt Gaaras, Kankuros, Temaris and Daruis combined attacks
defended one attack from Mifune
attacked by Mei but saved by Zetsu
attacked by Tsuchikage but again saved by Madara
so like i said outnumbered? yes and no..
and actually no everyone who spoke for Sasuke isnt a Sasuke hater. i've seen Sasuke haters and I even put them in their place. like i said i like Sasuke but i dont believe he beat Raikage. and i probaby even came off as a hater but when i debate i go hard lol
It's nice that you posted pics that actually had to do with the fight, unlike other people here. Good points, the flames do seem to be covering more than just his leg, which means A would have definetely being ****ed, but I can't say the same for Sasuke.
Thanks xXXSasuke and Senju for your good intentions to the thread
wooow well look who came out of his shell lol! i gave +reps for the thread man. it was really good even though it got heated but still fun lol..
Just to be fair you're only looking at it from the front maybe if there were an angle from the side or top then your conclusion could be stronger, but sionce this is only a front view it just goes back to the what if's.
The Raikage has his leg outstretched so as far as anyone's concerned his leg still would have possibly been the only one getting burned if the rest of his body was further back (Raikage is pretty tall mind you).
well said and agreed.
