Horrible humans - we're all the same, or are we?
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UchihaBrat
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We're not talking about majorities when we're talking about us, but individuals, however, if you're referring to all of us living in richer countries, then yes, most would likely do these things, but you can't really generalize like so, because there are almost always exceptions. Generalisations only take you that far.
I just see things like this: Most of us are similar in the way that we could and would do horrible things, for our own amusement or whatnot. Especially during wars there is lesser restrictions on actions and feelings in general, it's murder anyways.
The most horrifying thing in my opinion, though, is that we justify these horrible things with ideas and concepts, and at other times there's no justification at all, not that such things could ever be justified.
I remember reading about interrogations of some Nazis about why they did what they did, and they answered it with 'we don't know, we just did what everyone else was doing', so I'm thinking it's a bit about not wanting to be left out, which is weakness, since we're alone anyway.
I can say that I would not do anything like that directly, I'd find a way out of it, definitely. But I know that with the way I'm living, the way society is constructed, that I'm indirectly harming others.
Lastly, I wouldn't ever say that anyone is the same as another, only ever that they would share similarities, even between twins, as they ultimately are different entities and won't experience the exact same things. So, I will stand firm in my saying that everyone isn't the same.
Shunsin no Shisui
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Anyone familiar with the srebrenica massacre. Probably the most controversial of all atrocities since WWII. So many people were killed in so little time nd the world just watched. U_U
Little Knindzha
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Humanity is a broad term, one does not simply say all humans are bad.
It's a very complicated matter, our state of being, and there are many theories about why are things the way they are.
A Greek philosopher once said, that conflict is a natural state of men. If you look at creatures of the wild for example, you could observe that they fight among themselves without mercy or quarter, but purely for food or existential reasons.
Man similarly does such things, but add greed, envy, wrath and pride to the mix and you get the world of today. There is also the religious explanation (which may differ depending on the faith in general) that man lost his innocents when he tasted the fruit of the forbidden tree (the tree of the knowledge of good and evil), which may be a metaphorical way of explaining the poor state of things.
Anyway the answers most certainly lie in the past, not the present. Perhaps the time has come to claim our destiny (whatever it's nature might be). Let us pray, that people are ready for such a Herculean effort.
Humanity is a broad term, one does not simply say all humans are bad.
It's a very complicated matter, our state of being, and there are many theories about why are things the way they are.
A Greek philosopher once said, that conflict is a natural state of men. If you look at creatures of the wild for example, you could observe that they fight among themselves without mercy or quarter, but purely for food or existential reasons.
Man similarly does such things, but add greed, envy, wrath and pride to the mix and you get the world of today. There is also the religious explanation (which may differ depending on the faith in general) that man lost his innocents when he tasted the fruit of the forbidden tree (the tree of the knowledge of good and evil), which may be a metaphorical way of explaining the poor state of things.
Anyway the answers most certainly lie in the past, not the present. Perhaps the time has come to claim our destiny (whatever it's nature might be). Let us pray, that people are ready for such a Herculean effort.
Highly debatable, and very controversial question that is.
TheFifthMizukage
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Yes, we have the capacity to do horrible things, but we have the ability to do great things too; i.e. Curing disease, improving 3rd world countries, spread democracy, helping the poor, etc. If we are all alike then that means the Nelson Mandela and Hitler are both the same then? No, the rhetoric is all screwed up. Humans are all alike in there genetic make up, to a certain extent. We all share a common free will, that gives us the capacity to choose right or wrong.
Shunsin no Shisui
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Darthlawsuit
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You missed so very much....... Dont forget stalin killing Christians in order to save the country from the "ignorance" religion causes
When one have a belief in something, he belives it with conviction, Hitler belived he was doing the right thing. His speaches where so powerful that the german people belived him. As with any powerful leader who leads his or her people to do the things that he or she tells them to do. It's not like he forced them to do those horrible things. They just believed in what he said. There is a saying that I heard along time ago " conversation rules a nation". If you can talk the people into believing what you believe then you have complete control over them. Like with someone who is standing in front of bunch of people and gives a powerful speech, so powerful that it moves them and makes them to stop and think about it what he said, at that moment he has them. It goes with any great leader. John F. Kennedy, Stalin, Hitler, Julius Ceaser, and the list goes on. All these people had a belief and they believed it with conviction, and proposed it to the people and what happened? Everyone believed it. The human race isn't bad in general, just the people who lead them. Another thing to get the people to do horrible things is fear. I won't get into that as it is self explanatory. I hope I voiced my opinion the right way.
McKnockout
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Wow, I agree with you. We, humans, think of ourselves as "superior" beings of this universe. Sometimes I just wonder if we're just insignificant lifeforms part of something much larger. Like how an ant is to us for instance, they're insignificant to us, inferior to us and worthless.
