Hokage title = Nepotism

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Next in line is Konohamaru, sorry people but Shikamaru isn't a real candidate(and he's in my top 5 favorite characters).

Hokage title has been passed from teacher to student pretty much every time. Hashi trained with his younger brother growing up(we can call that student) then gave it to him, Tobirama in turn gave it to his and Hashi's student Hiruzen. Hiruzen was going to give it to his student Oro but he was evil so he gave it to Minato a student of his student. Minato dies before a student can step up and replace him so Hiruzen comes back, he then dies the village asks another student of his Jiraiya who turns it down, they then go to Hiruzen's other student. Tsunade had no students ready to take Hokage seat, her only real students being Shizune and Sakura so it went to her students teacher Kakashi. It then goes from Kakashi to his student Naruto. Naruto has trained and shaped Konohamaru pretty much more than anyone else so it's only fitting he gets the Hokage title next.

Do you guys think this is a terrible case of nepotism run rampant or the other possibility, do you think this happened simply because the best were training them each time so they naturally would be the best choice?
 

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do you think this happened simply because the best were training them each time so they naturally would be the best choice?
This.

Plus, it's not like in any case you listed that the candidate who stepped in was unqualified. You can argue Kakashi was underpowered to take the role, but in the era of peace they're in, his intelligence to further the development of the village made him the best choice, and chapter 700 showed it was the correct choice with how far Konoha had developed.
 

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No it simply happened that the hokage were training the most liked people in the village for Hokage, except of course in Minato's case.


In all Honesty, it feels like they just threw in Kakashi to fill the "generation" thing, each generation having a hokage.
 

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In all Honesty, it feels like they just threw in Kakashi to fill the "generation" thing, each generation having a hokage.
Yeah I felt the same way. I think Kakashi only became Hokage because it was a way for him to live out Obito's dream. The same way Tsunade excepted being Hokage to live out Dan's and her brother's dream of being Hokage.

Kakashi never wanted to be Hokage and his downgrade in power makes him stand out in a bad way compared to his predecessors and successor Naruto. Any threat that the village may face will be fought by Naruto and when Naruto isn't around Sasuke (as seen in The Last) will protect the village. Kakashi's just a filler.



As for Nepotism, yeah I can see that but also look at the candidates that were almost Hokage.

Hashirama wanted Madara for the 2nd, but Madara turned him down. So it became Tobirama.

Tobirama was between Danzo and Hiruzen for the 3rd but Hiruzen spoke up first so Tobirama passed it to him.

Hiruzen wanted his student Oro for the 4th but Oro's dark ambitions had caught Hiruzen's eye. So Minato became the 4th.

Jiraiya was sought for the 5th and even voted on by the Elders but he turned them done for his own personal reasons.

Danzo inserted himself as the 6th Hokage, after maneuvering things during the Pein invasion where he would be the most likely candidate to fill the power vaccum. It was Shikaku who saw Danzo's intent and through Kakshi's name out there. When Danz died it was again going to be Kakashi, since he's someone the Sand, Cloud and Leaf elders could trust.

After Kakashi, the only choice was Naruto. With the exception of Sasuke, no one else in Naruto's class had reached his level of strength and Naruto had already won the favor of the village and the entire world through his deeds.

Kishi said Konohamaru would make a great Hokage, so he will likely be the 8th with Naruto retires.


So that's the way it all breaks down.
 

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What about Tsunade and Minato as his student?!!
You said son and daughters ;p .

Minato's dad is unknown

Tsunade's dad is unknown.

But students i agree with.

Yeah I felt the same way. I think Kakashi only became Hokage because it was a way for him to live out Obito's dream. The same way Tsunade excepted being Hokage to live out Dan's and her brother's dream of being Hokage.

Kakashi never wanted to be Hokage and his downgrade in power makes him stand out in a bad way compared to his predecessors and successor Naruto. Any threat that the village may face will be fought by Naruto and when Naruto isn't around Sasuke (as seen in The Last) will protect the village. Kakashi's just a filler.
Yup, even Tsunade had no interest in the title. I don't think Tsunade was living it out for Dan and NAwaki. I think she was doing it for Naruto, since she was Naruto's number 1 supporter for Hokage (even bigger than Jiraiya.).


Yea, thats weird tho. But then again, Hokage is simply supposed to be the strongest of his/her generation. Which Kakashi technically is.
But i agree he does feel like just a fill-in hokage anddd the fact Naruto overshadows every single kage alive XD. That even makes Kakashi seem less important.
 
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...or maybe, just maybe being the strongest in the village has a strong correlation to being a great teacher and producing students who both have the morals of a hokage, and power to back it up?

When you make correlations, you have to ask yourself if the correlations are the thing that determines the result, or just a common factor produced as a side affect of the actual determinates. How many leaf ninjas were even strong enough to be hokage in Tobirama's generation? What about Hiruzen's? Jiraiya's? Minatos?

Other than the hokages and the sannin the only other ninja from the leaf strong enough to be hokage was the white fang, and maybe some uchiha (but they were discriminated against for alternative reasons). So there wasn't much competition, all the other shinobi were just highly underqualified for the position.
 
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What about Tsunade and Minato as his student?!!
So? Tsunade was the fourth choice for the post after old Hiruzen, Orochimaru, Minato, and Jiraiya. She was offered the role when all these guys got removed for one reason or another and still only because she was capable. ( death, turned criminal, refusal)

Seeing the important of KG and clan techs some people are more likely to go far but it doesn't fall in definition of nepotism. Accusation of nepotism would be when a relative of a powerful figure ascends to similar power seemingly without appropriate qualifications.
 
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