Hm, Depression..

[Im Still Robin]

OP's depression could be real though, most depressed people feel like people won't believe them, and often try to be normal, which ends up looking fake to people, and then they think you're just looking for sympathy cause you appear fine. But that's just a pretense.

It's also easier to deal with it, saying lol you're fake, because otherwise you'd have to bother with a real issue, more work.

When listening to someone with mental problems, people have a bias towards believing it's a pretense rather than accepting it as a real problem.

Hmm..
Let me guess how you became depressed, at first you were sad for a while one day, than some other day you were sad for more portion of day, and some days later, a lot of bad happened and little good and then you were sadder longer than happy, and eventually sadness became the normal state and happiness momentarily, then before you know it you're depressed.

OP I believe that the cause of these things persisting is a sense of lowered self esteem, what is working for me is taking better care of myself, say no to people, even if it might hurt them a little.

One shouldn't have to go to people asking if the feelings are valid or not, how could they not be? You're ****ing feeling them standing there. They're very valid, and a natural state of being.


You definitely have hope, because if I can be on a path of improvement, this is child's play.

glad to hear that yours isn't that severe. however if that period of sadness persists, it's time to start treating it by other methods. of course, refrain from using drugs or medical treatment. only use that as a last ditch effort. but you could try talking with someone about that whenever you feel down. mostly there are just things in your mind that needed to be said that would only uplift that sadness/depression.



well said. but it truly is oversensationalized though. at least the people I deal with. each little thing that makes them sad, they would just recognize it as depression and they won't move on normally. only until they get some type of medication: drugs, alcohol or weed would "cure" them.

that is why I was prompted to write what I wrote. there are people who are truly suffering from these illnesses and there are just people who use these illnesses to do whatever they desire. I once dated a toxic person that controlled my life due to her "illness" but got sick of it as it really wasn't.

some of them like the perks that comes with being "depressed"

Find someone to open with, don't bottle it down, find something that can give you some joy, a game, sport, reading, anime, movie, etc ..... these things help a lot trust me. And don't go on making 13 tapes.

In my case; I despise sympathy. It's useless to me. It's also pretty funny to me how close relatives of mine try to give a peptalk while driving me around in their 100.000 euro Tesla Model S.

Anywho; Like you said. Get physical. I go to festivals or clubs in amsterdam with my squad, I go on vacation, date people(not often), go to the gym every now and then and other things. Just to make sure I don't sit still. That's when you start thinking too much for your own good.

sometimes the real ones who do suffer from depression are the ones who hide them very well.
once you've been "extremely happy and lively" you'll know you're depressed.
people who suffers will smile because they don't ever want to make you feel sad
they will laugh loudly and over little things as that was practically the best thing that's ever happened to them in a long while.
so keep an eye out for those people and for yourself.

but you'll know what I'm talking about once you've hit a new low if you haven't gone there yet.

don't be a silent sufferer mate. sadness is bad as well and if you let that rule you, it will get worse and you will need help uplifting that.

have someone to talk with, go be active socially and physically. those are the things that normally would help you get over it.
just don't go down the rabbit hole and do something addictive like anything intoxicating or *** to cope/deal with that.

I agree with this the way I see things like clinical psychology and Psychiatry is a scam mersin profession and pseudo science. No matter how intense the thoughts and feelings you have you can learn to deal with it. I'm not saying don't seek it but understand only you can address and fix the underlying issue. People think that our internal issues can just be dwindled down to some physical abnormality the way I see it you got to be the anchor so your not swayed by what's going on in your body. Me personally I have my moments of deep depression but no matter how low it takes me I never allow it to control me.

I agree with the first part I've learned to handle the things I go internally with by myself and I have power in that if my happiness was dictated by other people no matter who they are you will learn how most people just don't really care. Not everyone's strong enough to learn to handle things themselves so if you don't think you can grasp it yourself than look for someone you trust to help get through it but even if you seek help its fundamentally still on you to not get swayed by what your internally going through and give in.

Thank you all.

I often find myself going insane, I'll always refer back to this thread and probably ask either of you guys questions if need be.

I know the base is trololo sometimes, but I really do appreciate the advice, good, bad, all of it.

 

[Im Still Robin]

I disagree.

Anime has entirely nothing to do with it, but maybe in SOME people's cases.

 

[Drakengard]

In my case; I despise sympathy. It's useless to me. It's also pretty funny to me how close relatives of mine try to give a peptalk while driving me around in their 100.000 euro Tesla Model S.

Anywho; Like you said. Get physical. I go to festivals or clubs in amsterdam with my squad, I go on vacation, date people(not often), go to the gym every now and then and other things. Just to make sure I don't sit still. That's when you start thinking too much for your own good.

When I say sympathy, I don't really mean peptalk. I consider that giving solutions to the problem. I'm talking about listening to them. If they say, "I hate everybody, I'm being treated unfairly by those around me." A lot of people would point out that the person him/herself is being unfair by saying that, or suggest that they think about it differently. What if they start complaining about you? It's the most inherent response to try to destroy their claims. While that may be morally sound, I don't think that sort of approach really works. Instead, it would make them feel better to ask further questions and even comment on how difficult it must be. I think, most of the time, they just want to express their feelings without getting instantly rejected for it.

Yes, I think you are absolutely right by saying to be active. Self-esteem seems to be a big part of it (as I think somebody mentioned earlier).

 

[Robbiebah]

1. Eat Healthy
2. Sleep Healthy
3. Exercise
4. Socialize

Start by ticking off at least 2 of these for a week. Next week up it to 3 and then 4. You can't be happy if you sleep for 10 hours, wake up at noon and spend your day on the internet and eating shit there is not a person on the planet that can do that and not be depressed you must challenge yourself.

"Discipline Is Freedom" - Jocko Willink

 

[YowYan]

I agree with the first part I've learned to handle the things I go internally with by myself and I have power in that if my happiness was dictated by other people no matter who they are you will learn how most people just don't really care. Not everyone's strong enough to learn to handle things themselves so if you don't think you can grasp it yourself than look for someone you trust to help get through it but even if you seek help its fundamentally still on you to not get swayed by what your internally going through and give in.

When I say sympathy, I don't really mean peptalk. I consider that giving solutions to the problem. I'm talking about listening to them. If they say, "I hate everybody, I'm being treated unfairly by those around me." A lot of people would point out that the person him/herself is being unfair by saying that, or suggest that they think about it differently. What if they start complaining about you? It's the most inherent response to try to destroy their claims. While that may be morally sound, I don't think that sort of approach really works. Instead, it would make them feel better to ask further questions and even comment on how difficult it must be. I think, most of the time, they just want to express their feelings without getting instantly rejected for it.

Yes, I think you are absolutely right by saying to be active. Self-esteem seems to be a big part of it (as I think somebody mentioned earlier).

Yes, well said. In my case; people do care and I have tons of them standing by in case I need to talk but words are useless to me. I know every inspirational peptalk out there and can do that for myself by myself.

So, I prefer to focus on doors opening when you're in contact with people. Like networking. It's tangible support that actually manifests something new. Instead of pointless talks about feelings.