Hm, Depression..

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(I don't care if this is the right section or not.. you can really gtfo of my thread just to tell me that :|)

Anyways, depression is probably the hardest thing I've dealt with...well ever.

I know there are things like:

Cancer.
AIDS.
HIV.
Bloodclots.
Ebola (haven't seen or heard that one in a while have you)
[Insert more]


But, all those things even if you have or had them can still ultimately lead up to depression anyways.

I thought I'd never be prone to it, ever, naturally of course many people/mostly teenagers have that, "oh I'm invincible the world centers around me" phase (if you've never thought that then you're a GOD).

But the things I've experienced are somewhat....hm, minor that lead up to my depression?



First heartbreak (natural/more common for everyone)
A personal condition (not AIDS, crabs, or anything like that)
anti-social (eh, kinda normal)

I really don't know the point or meaning of this thread, just sharing my mentality/problems that no one give af about


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society is glorifying mental illness.

you know what they call what you experienced back then?

sadness.

we normally just use big words now so that we get more attention and by doing so we deny ourselves easy fixes.

by saying "I'm depressed" you are now to be medicated in order to fix that instead of being sad and that stuff you get over with time or by just a change of attitude.

there are people who are CLINICALLY depressed as in their brain physically is set in a way that causes chemical induced depression or other mental issues that is not due to one's mood.

you will always hit a lowest low in your life but whether you pick yourself up quickly is up to you.
your depression is probably just an emotion, a mood, rather than a real disease that needs to be treated with medication or some type of surgery.

we all went through with what you are going through and we will always face something even worse in the future.
what is important is that you get back up.

thank you for sharing. it is good that we raise awareness as it is a real thing but unfortunately it is over sensationalized and therefore people think what they have is something that is the real deal.

of course the doctors won't care, they are selling you stuff. to them, you are an actual patient with real problems because that's what you believe in so they'd just give you drugs but that isn't really proper treatment for "depression"

IDK. just food for thought.
 

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(I don't care if this is the right section or not.. you can really gtfo of my thread just to tell me that :|)

Anyways, depression is probably the hardest thing I've dealt with...well ever.

I know there are things like:

Cancer.
AIDS.
HIV.
Bloodclots.
Ebola (haven't seen or heard that one in a while have you)
[Insert more]


But, all those things even if you have or had them can still ultimately lead up to depression anyways.

I thought I'd never be prone to it, ever, naturally of course many people/mostly teenagers have that, "oh I'm invincible the world centers around me" phase (if you've never thought that then you're a GOD).

But the things I've experienced are somewhat....hm, minor that lead up to my depression?



First heartbreak (natural/more common for everyone)
A personal condition (not AIDS, crabs, or anything like that)
anti-social (eh, kinda normal)

I really don't know the point or meaning of this thread, just sharing my mentality/problems that no one give af about


¯\_(ツ)_/¯
]
I deal with it too, clinically diagnosed
 

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society is glorifying mental illness.

you know what they call what you experienced back then?

sadness.

we normally just use big words now so that we get more attention and by doing so we deny ourselves easy fixes.

by saying "I'm depressed" you are now to be medicated in order to fix that instead of being sad and that stuff you get over with time or by just a change of attitude.

there are people who are CLINICALLY depressed as in their brain physically is set in a way that causes chemical induced depression or other mental issues that is not due to one's mood.

you will always hit a lowest low in your life but whether you pick yourself up quickly is up to you.
your depression is probably just an emotion, a mood, rather than a real disease that needs to be treated with medication or some type of surgery.

we all went through with what you are going through and we will always face something even worse in the future.
what is important is that you get back up.

thank you for sharing. it is good that we raise awareness as it is a real thing but unfortunately it is over sensationalized and therefore people think what they have is something that is the real deal.

of course the doctors won't care, they are selling you stuff. to them, you are an actual patient with real problems because that's what you believe in so they'd just give you drugs but that isn't really proper treatment for "depression"

IDK. just food for thought.

Thanks, I like seeing others ideals on matters.

I mostly endure it and can endure it. Some say that's wrong but there are some things better kept to ones self.

However I don't see it that way, mine is explainable because I know what causes my "depressions" yet I don't because sometimes it's a chain reaction of things.

Like you said it's more of an emotional things. At one point I was able to completely deal with any and everything then it came back.
 

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Just hopping on here to say that "depression" can't be fit into a neat little box. It comes in many forms. You might be experiencing a period of "sadness," sure, but if that sadness is prolonged, and if it affects your daily life, then you're depressed. Your circumstances can have a profound impact on how your brain functions. So even though things are going to get better, you can't just switch off the unhappiness that you feel.

I don't think people glorify mental illness. I think, often enough, we fail to recognize mental illness, or assess how serious it can actually be.

Don't let people invalidate your feelings. You're not being dramatic. Depression is common, and treatable. If you really feel you're suffering from depression, I would urge you to seek help, whether it be medication or therapy.
 

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Between all the individuals I have talked to that suffer from this sort of issue (or claim to suffer, whichever suits you better), it seems that sympathy is valued above actual solutions. There are plenty of people to offer ways to 'fix' the problem, but a lot less who can provide an understanding of the problem. Granted, I've never seen this magically make somebody feel better, it's just far more comforting.

Well, time to contradict myself by offering a suggestion. I don't believe I suffer from depression, but usually a 25-30 minute run on the treadmill boosts my mood. It makes me feel like I'm slowly achieving something. Maybe you can consider it if you don't do something similar already?
 

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Between all the individuals I have talked to that suffer from this sort of issue (or claim to suffer, whichever suits you better), it seems that sympathy is valued above actual solutions. There are plenty of people to offer ways to 'fix' the problem, but a lot less who can provide an understanding of the problem. Granted, I've never seen this magically make somebody feel better, it's just far more comforting.

Well, time to contradict myself by offering a suggestion. I don't believe I suffer from depression, but usually a 25-30 minute run on the treadmill boosts my mood. It makes me feel like I'm slowly achieving something. Maybe you can consider it if you don't do something similar already?

I would agree. Exercising can actually be really good for you, mentally. Endorphins bby :)
 

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You are down now but by the time passing you will feel better.
If you are sick you will cure and your sadness will change in hapiness once you meet one or more people who can fill your heart.
You see yourself as antisocial because you dont like the ppl around you. Make a change in your life, like practicing a new sport or hobby like dance/music, cooking, reading books in a library not home alone, watching movies at cinema, etc. Be active and don't stay put in your corner.
Be well, look around, and smile often.
 

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Michelle and wanderingcactus are right, bro. I think that what leads to the state of hopelessness you're experiencing now is loneliness. Or at least, that was my case.
Anyway I would have some advices:

1) if you don't have one already, get a job. Being able to bring money home with your own work is pretty uplifting

2) practice a sport you've never practiced before and you have no experience with, in order to start as a rookie and see your first results after having worked for them. Zero to hero, y'know

3) spend time doing something fun with your family/friends/partner

4) go out, especially when it's warm and sunny outside. It's a matter of fact that the people who spend a great deal of time under the sunlight are less likely to get depressed

Anyway, I've recently learned that when I'm angry or sad, reading the Gospel is the best thing to cool off
 

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You'll be fine.
Find a friend or family member or anyone who cares about you, who is mentally healthy, and just talk to them.(Let them know your troubles, but have normal conversations and hang out etc)

The key is to adjust yourself to that(their) state of health again, others can help you change your state. Or you can look at it as, changing your state. But really you are the driver of your own car. And that's not saying you're responsible, it only and only and ONLY means you have the control in this situation.

Also no, as someone who is far gone than you are, and has practically learned to live with it, there is no reason for you to despair yet, guaranteed.
I'm gonna fix myself too, the long-term plan is in action.
 
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You'll be fine.
Find a friend or family member or anyone who cares about you, who is mentally healthy, and just talk to them.

The key is to adjust yourself to that state of health again, others can help you change your state. Or you can look at it as, changing your state. But really you are the driver of your own car. And that's not saying you're responsible, it only and only and ONLY means you have the control in this situation.

Also no, as someone who is far gone than you are, and has practically learned to live with it, there is no reason for you to despair, guaranteed.
I'm gonna fix myself too, the long-term plan is in action.

This, it's like this...and more, many more, so many more variations and alternations that it's hard to coupe with them all.

That's why it's hard because it can be triggered in an instant.

Then once I feel like I'm getting a grasp of it and take control again I might be good for a little while, as we know life is about distractions in a way so yeah.

Life is always on and you can never get a break from it weather you get a hold of it or not. It's really me trying to understand something that I can't full understand entirely.

EDIT: Also to others to whom it may concern...I'm not limited or narrowing depression down in a neat little box, I did the exact opposite by naming other things that can lead up to depression...while the first ones I listed are a bit extreme they are just examples. It can vary from extreme things to even little things that triggers said "depression"
 
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OP's depression could be real though, most depressed people feel like people won't believe them, and often try to be normal, which ends up looking fake to people, and then they think you're just looking for sympathy cause you appear fine. But that's just a pretense.

It's also easier to deal with it, saying lol you're fake, because otherwise you'd have to bother with a real issue, more work.

When listening to someone with mental problems, people have a bias towards believing it's a pretense rather than accepting it as a real problem.
 

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This, it's like this...and more, many more, so many more variations and alternations that it's hard to coupe with them all.

That's why it's hard because it can be triggered in an instant.

Then once I feel like I'm getting a grasp of it and take control again I might be good for a little while, as we know life is about distractions in a way so yeah.

Life is always on and you can never get a break from it weather you get a hold of it or not. It's really me trying to understand something that I can't full understand entirely.

EDIT: Also to others to whom it may concern...I'm not limited or narrowing depression down in a neat little box, I did the exact opposite by naming other things that can lead up to depression...while the first ones I listed are a bit extreme they are just examples. It can vary from extreme things to even little things that triggers said "depression"

This, it's like this...and more, many more, so many more variations and alternations that it's hard to coupe with them all.

That's why it's hard because it can be triggered in an instant.

Then once I feel like I'm getting a grasp of it and take control again I might be good for a little while, as we know life is about distractions in a way so yeah.

Life is always on and you can never get a break from it weather you get a hold of it or not. It's really me trying to understand something that I can't full understand entirely.

EDIT: Also to others to whom it may concern...I'm not limited or narrowing depression down in a neat little box, I did the exact opposite by naming other things that can lead up to depression...while the first ones I listed are a bit extreme they are just examples. It can vary from extreme things to even little things that triggers said "depression"

Hmm..
Let me guess how you became depressed, at first you were sad for a while one day, than some other day you were sad for more portion of day, and some days later, a lot of bad happened and little good and then you were sadder longer than happy, and eventually sadness became the normal state and happiness momentarily, then before you know it you're depressed.

OP I believe that the cause of these things persisting is a sense of lowered self esteem, what is working for me is taking better care of myself, say no to people, even if it might hurt them a little.

One shouldn't have to go to people asking if the feelings are valid or not, how could they not be? You're ****ing feeling them standing there. They're very valid, and a natural state of being.


You definitely have hope, because if I can be on a path of improvement, this is child's play.
 

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Thanks, I like seeing others ideals on matters.

I mostly endure it and can endure it. Some say that's wrong but there are some things better kept to ones self.

However I don't see it that way, mine is explainable because I know what causes my "depressions" yet I don't because sometimes it's a chain reaction of things.

Like you said it's more of an emotional things. At one point I was able to completely deal with any and everything then it came back.

glad to hear that yours isn't that severe. however if that period of sadness persists, it's time to start treating it by other methods. of course, refrain from using drugs or medical treatment. only use that as a last ditch effort. but you could try talking with someone about that whenever you feel down. mostly there are just things in your mind that needed to be said that would only uplift that sadness/depression.

Just hopping on here to say that "depression" can't be fit into a neat little box. It comes in many forms. You might be experiencing a period of "sadness," sure, but if that sadness is prolonged, and if it affects your daily life, then you're depressed. Your circumstances can have a profound impact on how your brain functions. So even though things are going to get better, you can't just switch off the unhappiness that you feel.

I don't think people glorify mental illness. I think, often enough, we fail to recognize mental illness, or assess how serious it can actually be.

Don't let people invalidate your feelings. You're not being dramatic. Depression is common, and treatable. If you really feel you're suffering from depression, I would urge you to seek help, whether it be medication or therapy.

well said. but it truly is oversensationalized though. at least the people I deal with. each little thing that makes them sad, they would just recognize it as depression and they won't move on normally. only until they get some type of medication: drugs, alcohol or weed would "cure" them.

that is why I was prompted to write what I wrote. there are people who are truly suffering from these illnesses and there are just people who use these illnesses to do whatever they desire. I once dated a toxic person that controlled my life due to her "illness" but got sick of it as it really wasn't.

some of them like the perks that comes with being "depressed"
 

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Find someone to open with, don't bottle it down, find something that can give you some joy, a game, sport, reading, anime, movie, etc ..... these things help a lot trust me. And don't go on making 13 tapes.
 

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Between all the individuals I have talked to that suffer from this sort of issue (or claim to suffer, whichever suits you better), it seems that sympathy is valued above actual solutions. There are plenty of people to offer ways to 'fix' the problem, but a lot less who can provide an understanding of the problem. Granted, I've never seen this magically make somebody feel better, it's just far more comforting.

Well, time to contradict myself by offering a suggestion. I don't believe I suffer from depression, but usually a 25-30 minute run on the treadmill boosts my mood. It makes me feel like I'm slowly achieving something. Maybe you can consider it if you don't do something similar already?

In my case; I despise sympathy. It's useless to me. It's also pretty funny to me how close relatives of mine try to give a peptalk while driving me around in their 100.000 euro Tesla Model S.

Anywho; Like you said. Get physical. I go to festivals or clubs in amsterdam with my squad, I go on vacation, date people(not often), go to the gym every now and then and other things. Just to make sure I don't sit still. That's when you start thinking too much for your own good.
 
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Thanks, I like seeing others ideals on matters.

I mostly endure it and can endure it. Some say that's wrong but there are some things better kept to ones self.

However I don't see it that way, mine is explainable because I know what causes my "depressions" yet I don't because sometimes it's a chain reaction of things.

Like you said it's more of an emotional things. At one point I was able to completely deal with any and everything then it came back.

sometimes the real ones who do suffer from depression are the ones who hide them very well.
once you've been "extremely happy and lively" you'll know you're depressed.
people who suffers will smile because they don't ever want to make you feel sad
they will laugh loudly and over little things as that was practically the best thing that's ever happened to them in a long while.
so keep an eye out for those people and for yourself.

but you'll know what I'm talking about once you've hit a new low if you haven't gone there yet.

don't be a silent sufferer mate. sadness is bad as well and if you let that rule you, it will get worse and you will need help uplifting that.

have someone to talk with, go be active socially and physically. those are the things that normally would help you get over it.
just don't go down the rabbit hole and do something addictive like anything intoxicating or *** to cope/deal with that.
 

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society is glorifying mental illness.

you know what they call what you experienced back then?

sadness.

we normally just use big words now so that we get more attention and by doing so we deny ourselves easy fixes.

by saying "I'm depressed" you are now to be medicated in order to fix that instead of being sad and that stuff you get over with time or by just a change of attitude.

there are people who are CLINICALLY depressed as in their brain physically is set in a way that causes chemical induced depression or other mental issues that is not due to one's mood.

you will always hit a lowest low in your life but whether you pick yourself up quickly is up to you.
your depression is probably just an emotion, a mood, rather than a real disease that needs to be treated with medication or some type of surgery.

we all went through with what you are going through and we will always face something even worse in the future.
what is important is that you get back up.

thank you for sharing. it is good that we raise awareness as it is a real thing but unfortunately it is over sensationalized and therefore people think what they have is something that is the real deal.

of course the doctors won't care, they are selling you stuff. to them, you are an actual patient with real problems because that's what you believe in so they'd just give you drugs but that isn't really proper treatment for "depression"

IDK. just food for thought.

I agree with this the way I see things like clinical psychology and Psychiatry is a scam mersin profession and pseudo science. No matter how intense the thoughts and feelings you have you can learn to deal with it. I'm not saying don't seek it but understand only you can address and fix the underlying issue. People think that our internal issues can just be dwindled down to some physical abnormality the way I see it you got to be the anchor so your not swayed by what's going on in your body. Me personally I have my moments of deep depression but no matter how low it takes me I never allow it to control me.
 

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In my case; I despise sympathy. It's useless to me. It's also pretty funny to me how close relatives of mine try to give a peptalk while driving me around in their 100.000 euro Tesla Model S.

Anywho; Like you said. Get physical. I go to festivals or clubs in amsterdam with my squad, I go on vacation, date people(not often), go to the gym every now and then and other things. Just to make sure I don't sit still. That's when you start thinking too much for your own good.

I agree with the first part I've learned to handle the things I go internally with by myself and I have power in that if my happiness was dictated by other people no matter who they are you will learn how most people just don't really care. Not everyone's strong enough to learn to handle things themselves so if you don't think you can grasp it yourself than look for someone you trust to help get through it but even if you seek help its fundamentally still on you to not get swayed by what your internally going through and give in.
 
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