History is full of lies..

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A lie is intentional. That's where the disagreement lies.

You're suggesting that historians lie intentionally about history for some reason and that 90% of it is a lie.

1. How do you know that 90% of all history is a lie?

2. If historians lie about history, then how can you know what real history is?


If you were to instead say that we don't know everything about history and that new information comes to light everyday that can add or redefine some aspects of preconceived notions of history, then I would agree with you. But that's not what you were saying.

shouldn't i somehow be teh 1 who ask these kestions???....

wether they lied deliberately or not dont matter ..what matter is that lies existed...


You asked me : "... If historians lie about history, then how can you know what real history is?.." that's funny kestion dude...im like you i dont know... i personally dont believe in reall history..problem for me now is: how do studying history benifit me ??? how do i use those history lies to my advantage.....


history for me is only important when it involves consiousness of a society or state...
 

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Learning history is good,but the history we are told today is definitely not what exactly happened...we learn what it is chosen to be thought, many heros are ignored/turned to losers,losers sometimes are counted as the rightful ppl.
And I can't agree more with the Illuminati part
 

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Learning history is good,but the history we are told today is definitely not what exactly happened...we learn what it is chosen to be thought, many heros are ignored/turned to losers,losers sometimes are counted as the rightful ppl.
And I can't agree more with the Illuminati part

i respect your Opinion...

altho it's wrong..
 

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thx for Opinion..i know historians do their best to bring us true history with facts...but still why do historians differ???

The reason why historians differ is because there are way too many people that have conceptions like the ones you have and it would be disastrous if we would leave the complexities and the importance of humanity's history unattended in such company, hence we have historians who have been trained and educated to deal with these matters.

hahaha thx for agreeeing wit me guys...this is what i call true thinkers and truth tellers..




wut u mean i deny holocust??? r u specifically talkin about me?? or u mean all poepole in general?????

You are not a true thinker and even less of a truth teller. What you are right now is trying to act clever by 'questioning' authorities with simplistic and misplaced notions of what history is and how we should deal with it. You're pretty much acting as how many flat-Earth believers behave. It's not so much an issue of being factually right or wrong, but that they want to be 'different' and dare to go against the common, mundane belief that the Earth is round. In your cause however you want to appear like someone who goes against mainstream historical notions and pretend you have seen what true history is, despite the fact it's obvious to everyone who even has a shred of familiarity with history that you don't understand it whatsoever.
 

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i meant illuminati part...it could also be a lie!!... dont know what to trust know uchihagod i dont know!!!

I see...well, that's just my belief. And I can clearly see their dirty hands in my country. Also my religion (which is also my belief) accepts that. So. I count this as a fact, and define right and wrong(of my world) according to it. But, you dont think that , there is one truth in this world, you think that truth is defined by how ppl view it.or no? If yes, then in your situation defining truth is almost impossible... Unless you seek it and look for it deeply,analyize it with your brain and then believe in what you call truth.
 

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You are not a true thinker and even less of a truth teller. What you are right now is trying to act clever by 'questioning' authorities with simplistic and misplaced notions of what history is and how we should deal with it. You're pretty much acting as how many flat-Earth believers behave. It's not so much an issue of being factually right or wrong, but that they want to be 'different' and dare to go against the common, mundane belief that the Earth is round. In your cause however you want to appear like someone who goes against mainstream historical notions and pretend you have seen what true history is, despite the fact it's obvious to everyone who even has a shred of familiarity with history that you don't understand it whatsoever.
He is not saying he knows history, he says that what we've learned is not trustable.
Tho, calling ppl"true thinkers and truth teller" just becuz they agree with him is not logical.
And,questioning our knowledge is not a bad thing, it leads to learn new things, doesn't it?
 

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I see...well, that's just my belief. And I can clearly see their dirty hands in my country. Also my religion (which is also my belief) accepts that. So. I count this as a fact, and define right and wrong(of my world) according to it. But, you dont think that , there is one truth in this world, you think that truth is defined by how ppl view it.or no? If yes, then in your situation defining truth is almost impossible... Unless you seek it and look for it deeply,analyize it with your brain and then believe in what you call truth.

i see what you mean now :) :) im just trying to say that illuminati can also be a lie thats all.

btw... i like you discuss subjects with you ..you dont scream and force your Opinions and act like you are teh most clever guy :)
 

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i see what you mean now :) :) im just trying to say that illuminati can also be a lie thats all.

btw... i like you discuss subjects with you ..you dont scream and force your Opinions and act like you are teh most clever guy :)
True,according to your logic :p


Thanks sis I appreciate that. Your courage to question the world ,and your curiosity to understand what's truly going on and share it with others is admirable ^_^ not to mention ,your great sense of not giving up easily(like tobidara theory ,or talking with ppl here till getting convinced :D)
is the best part of you. Keep going;)
 
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True,according to your logic :p


Thanks sis
I appreciate that. Your courage to question the world ,and your curiosity to understand what's truly going on and share it with others is admirable ^_^ not to mention ,your great sense of not giving up easily(like tobidara theory ,or talking with ppl here till getting convinced :D)
is the best part of you. Keep going;)

i'm male...
 

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He is not saying he knows history, he says that what we've learned is not trustable.
Tho, calling ppl"true thinkers and truth teller" just becuz they agree with him is not logical.
And,questioning our knowledge is not a bad thing, it leads to learn new things, doesn't it?

Actually he does. When you claim that 90% of history are lies and then describe people who agree with you as "truth tellers" and "true thinkers", then yeah then you're implying you know history. Otherwise making such claims while knowing nothing is preposterous and that is exactly the problem here.

And yeah questioning is not automatically a good thing. Questioning just for the sake of questioning is pointless. There has to be a reason and a purpose. Otherwise it's like driving randomly around in your car. You don't know why you got into the car, you don't know where you are going, you're just riding around wasting your time, money and whatnot. Referring again to the Flat-Earth comparison. They have no reason to question the shape of the Earth, it will change absolutely nothing and the evidence against it is overwhelming, but still they go on about it. Why? Because they want to be special, they want to be different and want to show that to everyone. The factual truth is not important. It might be cute with little children, but when it concerns adults such behavior is cancerous as it's not rational and when people are being irrational, you can't deal with them.

This is biggest irony of this all. This is why we have historians, to counterbalance people like him as they are the ones who are a threat to how we remember history. They screw around, have no awareness about the subtleties and complexities involving history whatsoever, but then start spreading complete, baseless nonsense while pretending they somehow know everything about it while it's obvious they do not.

And when someone specifically asked in this thread where he got this from, he just gave a BS answer that pretty much came down to that he doesn't know. He made it up.
 
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He is not saying he knows history, he says that what we've learned is not trustable.
Tho, calling ppl"true thinkers and truth teller" just becuz they agree with him is not logical.
And,questioning our knowledge is not a bad thing, it leads to learn new things, doesn't it?

dont forget to post comments in my threads...becuz you dont scream at members with tyranny and force your Opinions and act like you are teh smartest cleverest guy...welcome to any disagreement against me...

(altho you got me wrong but nvm)

:) :) :)
 

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dont forget to post comments in my threads...becuz you dont scream at members with tyranny and force your Opinions and act like you are teh smartest cleverest guy...welcome to any disagreement against me...

(altho you got me wrong but nvm)
:) :) :)

wow thanks nice to hear that :D I will definitely comment when I get some free time.
my bad sis let me know what you think then
 

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wow thanks nice to hear that :D I will definitely comment when I get some free time.
my bad sis let me know what you think then

ok bro no p...
 

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History is written by the one that is victorious, not the victims.
 
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