History is full of lies..

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Is there a specific example that you're referring to?
 
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Lightbringer said:
Is there a specific example that you're referring to?
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too many exemples bro...for exemple when they say hitler faked his death..and other who said he committed suicide...and others who said they shot him in teh head...
 
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minamoto said:

too many exemples bro...for exemple when they say hitler faked his death..and other who said he committed suicide...and others who said they shot him in teh head...
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Can you point me to who's saying these things?

From what I'm aware of, it's universally accepted by historians that Hitler committed suicide.

New information comes to light everyday that adds and sometimes redefines history. That doesn't mean that people are making things up just because of x agenda or that history is intentionally a lie.
 
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Some of the old movies. i'll show you



hey!!! yes.... that's why im not watching because its not even worth to watch.... losing brain cells :) and what does holocust means!?!?!?!?!
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Holocrust iz when teh 6 billions got cooked brate!!!
 
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Lightbringer said:
Can you point me to who's saying these things?

From what I'm aware of, it's universally accepted by historians that Hitler committed suicide.

New information comes to light everyday that adds and sometimes redefines history. That doesn't mean that people are making things up just because of x agenda or that history is intentionally a lie.
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you and they just lie what's convenient to you....
 
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Pretty sure i agree with tis the victorious have always wrote the history not the losers . So we should stop reading history not really . It is true the civilisations have tumbled by one reign over to the another also it teaches law of nature have always choosen dominant over weak .

This is not from world war but from 2.65 million years from the days of early humans you fought one ad another to remain dominant species .


Why do we learn history ?

It reminds us the action of our ancestors have taken . Also remind for us to be better people for the incoming descendants .
 
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Shanks said:
Pretty sure i agree with tis the victorious have always wrote the history not the losers . So we should stop reading history not really . It is true the civilisations have tumbled by one reign over to the another also it teaches law of nature have always choosen dominant over weak .

This is not from world war but from 2.65 million years from the days of early humans you fought one ad another to remain dominant species .


Why do we learn history ?

It reminds us the action of our ancestors have taken . Also remind for us to be better people for the incoming descendants .
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exactly bro i can't disagreee :) :)
 
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minamoto said:
you want me to mention them 1 by 1??? comon man you think i have time for that???
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So we should just take you on your word? You still haven't told me who was saying that Hitler died by gunshot, etc. Is that what most historians agree on?

You're the one that called me a liar. What did I lie about?
 
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Lightbringer said:
So we should just take you on your word? You still haven't told me who was saying that Hitler died by gunshot, etc. Is that what most historians agree on?
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i read dat like 3 years ago what i'm sure is that they disagreed i forgot who they were bro...bro even present history is full of lies considering media and false news spread lies over teh world...history is gonna be full of lies then it had ever been...can we just agree,,????..
 
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minamoto said:
i read dat like 3 years ago what i'm sure is that they disagreed i forgot who they were bro...bro even present history is full of lies considering media and false news spread lies over teh world...history is gonna be full of lies then it had ever been...can we just agree,,????..
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I can't agree since I don't even know what you're referring to. The media aren't historians nor do they speak for the accepted history in the U.S.

Even with your Hitler example, I asked if that was what historians agreed on and you never told me. If it's people on a blog or someone in the media saying this, once again, they are not representative of what most historians say nor what most of the world accepts as history.
 
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I can't agree since I don't even know what you're referring to. The media aren't historians nor do they speak for the accepted history in the U.S.

Even with your Hitler example, I asked if that was what historians agreed on and you never told me. If it's people on a blog or someone in the media saying this, once again, they are not representative of what most historians say nor what most of the world accepts as history.
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i never say madia are historians...media serve as a mean and piece of evidences for historians ...something old hostorians didn't have...media should be advantageous to them for exemple when a camera cam an incident....but all i c is lmedia doing quite teh opposite and mlisleading poeple....

or if u want can you sum up your idea/ theory?? cuz if i say history is full of lies and u disagreed wit me that means you believe that history we've been taught is true
 
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minamoto said:
i never say madia are historians...media serve as a mean and piece of evidences for historians ...something old hostorians didn't have...media should be advantageous to them for exemple when a camera cam an incident....but all i c is lmedia doing quite teh opposite and mlisleading poeple....

or if u want can you sum up your idea/ theory?? cuz if i say history is full of lies and u disagreed wit me that means you believe that history we've been taught is true
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A lie is intentional. That's where the disagreement lies.

You're suggesting that historians lie intentionally about history for some reason and that 90% of it is a lie.

1. How do you know that 90% of all history is a lie?

2. If historians lie about history, then how can you know what real history is?


If you were to instead say that we don't know everything about history and that new information comes to light everyday that can add or redefine some aspects of preconceived notions of history, then I would agree with you. But that's not what you were saying.
 
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