Hiruzen's "prime"

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In logic that is called an argument from ignorance. The exact opposite can be said proving god such as "because there is no evidence disproving god, therefore he must exist." Another example would be for me to say that before we had evidence that air contained oxygen, oxygen did not exist. See what I'm doing yet?

There is proof, and has been for a while. The big bang theory. Here's a quote from Steven Hawking.

[h=1]“When people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them that the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the big bang, so there is no time for god to make the universe in. It’s like asking directions to the edge of the earth; The Earth is a sphere; it doesn’t have an edge; so looking for it is a futile exercise. We are each free to believe what we want, and it’s my view that the simplest explanation is; there is no god. No one created our universe,and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization; There is probably no heaven, and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that I am extremely grateful.” ~ Steven Hawking[/h]

 

[General Lex]

There is proof, and has been for a while. The big bang theory. Here's a quote from Steven Hawking.

[h=1]“When people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them that the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the big bang, so there is no time for god to make the universe in. It’s like asking directions to the edge of the earth; The Earth is a sphere; it doesn’t have an edge; so looking for it is a futile exercise. We are each free to believe what we want, and it’s my view that the simplest explanation is; there is no god. No one created our universe,and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization; There is probably no heaven, and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe, and for that I am extremely grateful.” ~ Steven Hawking[/h]

One mans opinion which is easily refuted or negated at the least. To say that time began with the Big Bang and that god could not have existed before time itself is to essentially say that Big Bang existed before time itself which is by hawkings definition not possible. That's a flaw in his logic thus proving the limitations of mans ability to understand things.

 

[startup97]

Funny thing is that there is no need to argue anymore. The moment Hiruzen shows an OP technique in the upcoming chapters everyone will start riding him just like they did with Tobirama.

 

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Funny thing is that there is no need to argue anymore. The moment Hiruzen shows an OP technique in the upcoming chapters everyone will start riding him just like they did with Tobirama.

If it's a shuriken jutsu, I will literally spam your VM laughing at you. He is still the weakest Kage IMO

 

[Stark]

We still discussing this?
He is weak compared to the other Hokages, Prime or not.

Hiruzen is the first or second strongest Kage in the NV..

 

[Multiply]

Hiruzen is the first or second strongest Kage in the NV..

LOL Please say you're trolling. :NO:

 

[Penguin]

"Prime Hiruzen" does indeed exist, but we've never seen him, and for that reason he should not be counted. Same reason why Edo Tensei shouldn't be given to Tobirama in a vs thread, we don't know what sort of Edos he controlled.
Simple as that.

It does not really matter what Edo's he uses. He blows them up.

OT: Hiruzen is greatly underrated as it is, Hiruzen Prime is baws.

 

[Stark]

If it's a shuriken jutsu, I will literally spam your VM laughing at you. He is still the weakest Kage IMO

Hiruzen stomps Genma while in the grave

Edit: I'm not joking, just you watch.

 

[Multiply]

It does not really matter what Edo's he uses. He blows them up.

OT: Hiruzen is greatly underrated as it is, Hiruzen Prime is baws.

Really, name one jutsu that is so boss that Hiruzen Prime uses (Hiruzen Prime{Optimus Prime} LOL)

 

[Penguin]

Really, name one jutsu that is so boss that Hiruzen Prime uses (Hiruzen Prime{Optimus Prime} LOL)

RDS. Summoning Enma. Wait and see what else he has that hyped him to be the strongest character in Naruto and the best Hokage.

 

[Stark]

Really, name one jutsu that is so boss that Hiruzen Prime uses (Hiruzen Prime{Optimus Prime} LOL)

Reaper Death Seal GG

 

[Multiply]

RDS. Summoning Enma. Wait and see what else he has that hyped him to be the strongest character in Naruto and the best Hokage.

So you mean the ones he used while living.

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[Stark]

So you mean the ones he used while living.

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Wait till the next couple of chapters, I wouldn't be surprised if you put a Hiruzen avatar.

 

[Multiply]

Wait till the next couple of chapters, I wouldn't be surprised if you put a Hiruzen avatar.

Um no. Hiruzen doesn't make my top 50 fav characters. When I first joined, my avatar was Hiruzen getting beat up by Tobirama. It was a gif lol.

(Actually it was a guy bashing his head into a keyboard with blood everywhere but I changed it)

 

[startup97]

If it's a shuriken jutsu, I will literally spam your VM laughing at you. He is still the weakest Kage IMO

Well IMO your opinion sucks! Shuriken Shadow Clone Jutsu was just to test and analyze Obito techniques. Even Sasuke notes that the Hokages and purposely getting hit to analyze Obito's power. Geez. carefully read the manga.

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[Stark]

Um no. Hiruzen doesn't make my top 50 fav characters. When I first joined, my avatar was Hiruzen getting beat up by Tobirama. It was a gif lol.

(Actually it was a guy bashing his head into a keyboard with blood everywhere but I changed it)

Hiruzen solos Tobirama and Genma at the same time, Genma gets one paneled by the Shuriken jutsu.

 

[Multiply]

Well IMO your opinion sucks! Shuriken Shadow Clone Jutsu was just to test and analyze Obito techniques. Even Sasuke notes that the Hokages and purposely getting hit to analyze Obito's power. Geez. carefully read the manga.

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Again, I feel like I've said this to you before.

What he analyzed pushed the plot so far forward, they will probably now defeat Juubito with that information./sarcasm

 

[Penguin]

Hiruzen solos Tobirama and Genma at the same time, Genma gets one paneled by the Shuriken jutsu.

Hey. My inner fanboy does not like that statement. Retract it and replace it with Hashirama sir.

 

[startup97]

Again, I feel like I've said this to you before.

What he analyzed pushed the plot so far forward, they will probably now defeat Juubito with that information./sarcasm

Ya and what has Genma done in this war?

 

[Multiply]

Hiruzen solos Tobirama and Genma at the same time, Genma gets one paneled by the Shuriken jutsu.

Nope, FTG: Senbon Teleportation Technique solo's Hiruzen.

Honestly what is Genma going to against Shuriken Shadow Clone? Use his toothpick?

FTG: Senbon Teleportation Technique solo's Hiruzen.