Hiruzen will not regen.

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This time it's not a troll thread.

1. The properties of Juubito and Rikubito's "liqud jinton" are exactly the same according to manga.
A. Juubito:
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2. Tobirama was not struck by Juubito. It was Tobirama's clone.

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This thread should show you why Tobirama came back, and not Hiruzen. Juubito's and Rikubito's jutsu are the same jutsu. However, Juubito was only able to use it out of his hands, while Rikubito can utilize it all over his body, for an absolute protection.


Hopefully you guys realize, Hiruzen will not be joining us anymore. :scorps:
 

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Thank you Jesus. XD

His old ass can finally RIP.
 

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That's okay. He's outlived his usefulness anyway. It's not like he was doing anything there, to be honest. :dunno:
 

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I'm missing the part where you prove that it was a clone that got hit by Juubito and not the original Tobirama...

Mvm, I see it now.
 

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Great, you provided concrete evidence. While I still personally believe that Hiruzen will come back in some form, at least you had some facts to back it up. Nothing is set in stone yet; and the way Kishi's been writing these past few chapters... Well, you get what I mean.

As a Hiruzen fan, I'm simply disappointed in his lack of screen time, plus all the irrational hate for him.
 

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I'm missing the part where you prove that it was a clone that got hit by Juubito and not the original Tobirama...

1. If it's not a clone, that would mean Hiruzen didn't regen. after the same jutsu was used on him, literally 3 panels later.

2. Tobirama suicided his clone, hence why I posted the massive explosion. The clone died.

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1. If it's not a clone, that would mean Hiruzen didn't regen. after the same jutsu was used on him, literally 3 panels later.

2. Tobirama suicided his clone, hence why I posted the massive explosion. The clone died.

Yeah, I saw after I re-read. My bad.
 

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1. If it's not a clone, that would mean Hiruzen didn't regen. after the same jutsu was used on him, literally 3 panels later.

2. Tobirama suicided his clone, hence why I posted the massive explosion. The clone died.

EDIT: Thanks for seeing it, and thanks for the rep :D

clones dont die! they just POOOF!
 

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Tobirama made two clones both of which went away in front of madara, it was the original who got struck by obito cause he pulled out the exploding tags from his body
 

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Time out. Clones poof when they are destroyed. Tobirama's "clone" didn't poof, so it wasn't even a clone.
 

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Time out. Clones poof when they are destroyed. Tobirama's "clone" didn't poof, so it wasn't even a clone.
Before i decide this is true I need to see for sure that it was a clone as well
 

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Tobirama made two clones both of which went away in front of madara, it was the original who got struck by obito cause he pulled out the exploding tags from his body
So what you're saying, without proof of course, is that Tobirama regenerated from a non-regenable technique, plus an explosion that obliterated his body faster than Hiruzen. Yep, seems legit.
 

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Time out. Clones poof when they are destroyed. Tobirama's "clone" didn't poof, so it wasn't even a clone.
LOL you're relying on a poof, in an explosion that dwarfed even Gamakichi. Yeah... Seriously?
 

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Obito went another transformation after becoming the jinchuriki, that should have increased the potency of the orbs
 

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Actually, while this is a good thread, if like to refer everyone to this page...



Read Tobirama's statement. If he were a clone, why wouldn't he be referring to himself in first person?

Also, the fight was Minato, Sasuke, and Naruto for a while. Tobirama didn't show up until Rikudobito trolled Minato's arm off.

Honestly, plenty of things seem off... It's the middle of battle and it's confusing as hell. We just have to wait and see what happens.
 

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LOL you're relying on a poof, in an explosion that dwarfed even Gamakichi. Yeah... Seriously?

What are you even talking about? Tobirama's "clone" lingered on even after getting hit by Obito. BEFORE the explosion. Not after or during it. It lingered long enough to pull out explosive tags out its body and toss them in the air. Its obvious that wasn't a clone.
 

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Actually, while this is a good thread, if like to refer everyone to this page...



Read Tobirama's statement. If he were a clone, why wouldn't he be referring to himself in first person?

Also, the fight was Minato, Sasuke, and Naruto for a while. Tobirama didn't show up until Rikudobito trolled Minato's arm off.

Honestly, plenty of things seem off... It's the middle of battle and it's confusing as hell. We just have to wait and see what happens.

Clones do talk in first person:
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What are you even talking about? Tobirama's "clone" lingered on even after getting hit by Obito. BEFORE the explosion. Not after or during it. It lingered long enough to pull out explosive tags out its body and toss them in the air. Its obvious that wasn't a clone.


By that logic, clones should dissipate after being hit, while Minato's survived being kicked from the most power being in NV.
 

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Actually...


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In between the above page and the one below (about 5 pages between), Sarutobi was the next to engage him in battle. Pay attention to Sasuke's analysis and Minato's words.

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