Hiruzen vs ems sasuke

[Nattana]

Sasuke shitstomps.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

If we were to apply his hype in addition and convert them into feats, then he should be able to take on pre-mature EMS Sasuke. Meaning no Susanoo w/ legs.

 

[Demonic.]

Make it MS Sasuke and he still shitstomps Hiruzen

 

[Draegod]

Prime hype Hiruzen????

He negs EMS Sasuke no diff! Just by giving him the non KGG jutsu's in the leaf with Tsunades chakra means he Rapes with no Police available!

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Prime hype Hiruzen????

He negs EMS Sasuke no diff! Just by giving him the non KGG jutsu's in the leaf with Tsunades chakra means he Rapes with no Police available!

They never hyped KKG. They only hyped Hiden and Ninjutsu.

 

[Draegod]

They never hyped KKG. They only hyped Hiden and Ninjutsu.

I'll repeat myself bro; "Just by giving him the non KGG jutsu's in the leaf", where did I say he gets KGG? When it is obv one needs the blood/DNA of the KGG to use KGG.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I'll repeat myself bro; "Just by giving him the non KGG jutsu's in the leaf", where did I say he gets KGG? When it is obv one needs the blood/DNA of the KGG to use KGG.

My fault.

I feel like making a match up with hype hiruzen. What do you think of him vs MS Obito (Akatsuki versions)?

 

[Draegod]

My fault.

I feel like making a match up with hype hiruzen. What do you think of him vs MS Obito (Akatsuki versions)?

Rapes! Wayyyyyyy Too easy! Give him all of akatsuki to make it fair. lol jp Rinnegan Obito with Jinjuriki's sounds allot more interesting, and even then he smiles while winning.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Rinnegan Obito with Jinjuriki's sounds allot more interesting, and even then he smiles while winning.

Mind if I quote this for thread starter?

 

[TRE MERCER]

Hebi Sasuke beats Hiruzen honestly.

Anything greater is a plain out stomp. Hiruzen even with his edo's feat's put him at Hebi Sasuke level no higher. ​

 

[NarutoKage2]

When you can actually tell me how that is a plus for him, then we can talk. Not to mention talking to Itachi=/=Knowing everything about the Mangekyo or even knowing about it at all. Get proof he knew about it. Sasuke knows everything about the Mangekyo, Hiruzen knows just about nothing, except probably the name.


You mean the two Edo Hokage who were revived nowhere near their full power? Sasuke destroys them along with Hiruzen. If this is really the best argumentation you can put up, then it's clear that you are wanking Hiruzen here.



Weak Edo Hashirama? Not a feat. Hiruzen's also not faster than Kakashi, so what you are saying here is irrelevant.



True, you are overrating the living hell out of this old man. That or you like making stomp threads. Lol

Its a feat. Tobirama had similar knowledge on uchiha, look at how much he knew about the sharingan. Knowledge means a LOT. It means:
-Sasuke can forget putting him under genjutsu
-Hell be able to anticipate sasukes movements that are enhanced by the sharingan.

Weak edo? You think those suitons tobirama showed in part 1 were weak? Lol. Sure bro.

I dont understand how someone who can use 5 kage bunshins, each using a different element (suiton to counter sasukes katon, fuuton for his raiton) can be considered to get stomped by someone who got shtted on by blind madara.

Hiruzen can use any jutsu in the leaf, whats to stop him from using bringer of darkness, use enma to locate sasuke and finish him off using fuuinjutsu?

 

[Selan]

MS Sasuke would low diff Hiruzen. Hebi Sasuke would probably defeat him. EMS Sasuke. LoL.

 

[KidGamer65]

Its a feat. Tobirama had similar knowledge on uchiha, look at how much he knew about the sharingan. Knowledge means a LOT. It means:
-Sasuke can forget putting him under genjutsu

Except he doesn't have knowledge on the Mangekyo's abilities. Tobirama had knowledge on the Sharingan, and Mangekyo, but that's Tobirama, not Hiruzen. Stop giving Hiruzen his knowledge. Obviously not how it works.

-Genjutsu? Irrelevant since I never mentioned it, not to mention we are talking about knowledge on MS, not regular Sharingan. Lol.

-Hell be able to anticipate sasukes movements that are enhanced by the sharingan.

Knowing what it is doesn't mean you can anticipate the user's movements. Now you are making no sense.

Weak edo? You think those suitons tobirama showed in part 1 were weak? Lol. Sure bro.

Considering fodder in Part 2 spit Suiton on par if not stronger, and Mei, uses Suiton that dwarf that, yes, that was weak, and the Edo Hokage were canonically weak so please don't try and argue against that.

I dont understand how someone who can use 5 kage bunshins, each using a different element (suiton to counter sasukes katon, fuuton for his raiton) can be considered to get stomped by someone who got shtted on by blind madara.

1. He ended up stabbing Blind Madara, and the latter used a Katon to get away. He got shitted on by One Eyed Madara. Not to mention either Blind Madara or One Eyed Madara is FAR superior to Hiruzen at full power, nice try though.

2. I also can't understand why you can't give real counter arguments, cause everything I'm reading is nonsense. Hiruzen using 5 Shadow Clones and 5 Elements means that he can beat or take on Sasuke? Countering Katon and knowledge on Sharingan means he can beat Sasuke? Are you even reading the manga?

Hiruzen can use any jutsu in the leaf, whats to stop him from using bringer of darkness, use enma to locate sasuke and finish him off using fuuinjutsu?

Well, let's see. Not only does Sharingan see through Genjutsu (Bringer of Darkness is Genjutsu) you are going to have to give me some Fuuinjutsu feats. Inb4 you post any of Minato's techniques, those are Uzumaki clan jutsu, not Konoha jutsu.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Except he doesn't have knowledge on the Mangekyo's abilities. Tobirama had knowledge on the Sharingan, and Mangekyo, but that's Tobirama, not Hiruzen. Stop giving Hiruzen his knowledge. Obviously not how it works.

-Genjutsu? Irrelevant since I never mentioned it, not to mention we are talking about knowledge on MS, not regular Sharingan. Lol.



Knowing what it is doesn't mean you can anticipate the user's movements. Now you are making no sense.



Considering fodder in Part 2 spit Suiton on par if not stronger, and Mei, uses Suiton that dwarf that, yes, that was weak, and the Edo Hokage were canonically weak so please don't try and argue against that.



1. He ended up stabbing Blind Madara, and the latter used a Katon to get away. He got shitted on by One Eyed Madara. Not to mention either Blind Madara or One Eyed Madara is FAR superior to Hiruzen at full power, nice try though.

2. I also can't understand why you can't give real counter arguments, cause everything I'm reading is nonsense. Hiruzen using 5 Shadow Clones and 5 Elements means that he can beat or take on Sasuke? Countering Katon and knowledge on Sharingan means he can beat Sasuke? Are you even reading the manga?



Well, let's see. Not only does Sharingan see through Genjutsu (Bringer of Darkness is Genjutsu) you are going to have to give me some Fuuinjutsu feats. Inb4 you post any of Minato's techniques, those are Uzumaki clan jutsu, not Konoha jutsu.

Poorly written response.

If anything, hiruzen would have greater intel than tobirama, as he lived longer than him.

And its not irrelevant you fool, knowledge gives a shinobi an edge in 90% of battles.

I love how you like to parrot on about what was canonical in the manga etc yet you overlook the fact that the anbu present back in part 1 canonically commended the strength of the 2nd suiton. Stop acting like anything that doesnt crush mountains or change the landscapes is weak.

Ok, your an even bigger idiot than I thought. Hiruzen canonically used the dead demon seal, which was an uzumaki fuuinjutsu in part 1. So yes his feats with that do count. And yes it means he can use minatos fuuinjutsu, such as the 4 symbol seal.

Heres a list of hiruzens counters to every tech sasuke has:
-suiton to counter his katon
-fuuton for his raiton techs
-knowledge to avoid sharingan eye contact (genjutsu)
-The mud wall to counter ametarasu, doton using kage bunshins to counter enton.
-He can use any jutsu in the leaf, hiraishin is in the leaf, that nullifies susanos fastest attacks, and even if he sees through bringer of darkness, hiraishin plus 4 symbols seal can end sasuke in his susano.

Now im well aware hiruzen has never used some of these techs, but as I stated in the op take hype, not just feats into consideration.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'll reply to this horseshit you call an argument later. Hiruzen wank just never ends does it?

 

[Draegod]

I'll reply to this horseshit you call an argument later. Hiruzen wank just never ends does it?

You honestly think sasuke stands any chance vs prime databook manga hype hiruzen? Like seruosly? Lol

 

[Amaterasu]

If Sasuke is helped by Karin, he fodderizes Hiruzen just like he did to Danzo

 

[LuckyMan]

I'll reply to this horseshit you call an argument later. Hiruzen wank just never ends does it?

Sasuke does loses though when Hiruzen gets his hype. No one bar juubi Jin's can stand up to someone who uses all the techniques in Konoha. Ghost Transformation would actually end it low difficulty, move is too good.

 

[NarutoKage2]

I'll reply to this horseshit you call an argument later. Hiruzen wank just never ends does it?

Hiruzen wank? This guy is serious or what? A kage who was said to be the strongest of his time beating sasuke is wank? Lol.

You honestly think sasuke stands any chance vs prime databook manga hype hiruzen? Like seruosly? Lol

The funniest part is I even stated in the op use hype not just feats. Lol.

 

[Zee U]

Make it MS Sasuke and he still shitstomps Hiruzen

When the hell i disliked this post? This is right... i should stop logging on NB while i am drunk.