Hiruzen vs 3T Itachi

[Demonic.]

Except later in the war phase he utilized two Kage Bunshin to use Raiden. Hell, in Part 1 he was creating hundreds of Bunshin. Even in a sick state Itachi was capable of using Tsukuyomi, Susano'o, two Amaterasu, multiple Katon, and a Karasu Bunshin. Saying that he can't make another two Bunshin is plain fallacy when it has been shown that his chakra reserves and control can utilize it.

Except realistically Itachi puts him in a Genjutsu from the start as he did to Deidara and Orochimaru. The fact is that without Enma, nothing he has is breaking past Itachi's defense.

In part 1 those weren't shadow clones. He bluffed they were regular clones. War arc Kakashi is said to have surpassed Itachi though, don't use an advanced form of Kakashi to counter this as Kakashi had time to improve Itachi didn't. Deidara didn't even know what the sharingan was: "What's up with his eyes?" Orochimaru wasn't completely subdued by the Genjutsu he lifted his hands to form a hand sign, and he sucks at Genjutsu. Hiruzen has a 5 in Genjutsu on the databooks. This is Itachi without MS too. Not to mention Reaper Death Seal. The old man is very underrated on here.

 

[Akasuna]

In part 1 those weren't shadow clones. He bluffed they were regular clones. War arc Kakashi is said to have surpassed Itachi though, don't use an advanced form of Kakashi to counter this as Kakashi had time to improve Itachi didn't. Deidara didn't even know what the sharingan was: "What's up with his eyes?" Orochimaru wasn't completely subdued by the Genjutsu he lifted his hands to form a hand sign, and he sucks at Genjutsu. Hiruzen has a 5 in Genjutsu on the databooks. This is Itachi without MS too. Not to mention Reaper Death Seal. The old man is very underrated on here.

Which is why I said Bunshin, not Kage Bunshin. I've provided solid proof as to why Itachi would be able to create more than one Bunshin, I don't get why you're still denying it. Kakashi's chakra reserves have been said to be shite multiple times, and you're comparing him to Itachi?

Kakashi had Intel on the Sharingan in Part 1 and still fell to Tsukuyomi. The fact remains that Hiruzen won't be able to maintain eye contact with Itachi, which handicaps him heavily.

Orochimaru sucks in Genjutsu? He has a Databook 5 too, and the same amount of Genjetsu feats as Hiruzen. Even if he isn't completely subdued, he will be partially subdued and from there Itachi can finish him.

 

[Demonic.]

Which is why I said Bunshin, not Kage Bunshin. I've provided solid proof as to why Itachi would be able to create more than one Bunshin, I don't get why you're still denying it. Kakashi's chakra reserves have been said to be shite multiple times, and you're comparing him to Itachi?

Kakashi had Intel on the Sharingan in Part 1 and still fell to Tsukuyomi. The fact remains that Hiruzen won't be able to maintain eye contact with Itachi, which handicaps him heavily.

Orochimaru sucks in Genjutsu? He has a Databook 5 too, and the same amount of Genjetsu feats as Hiruzen. Even if he isn't completely subdued, he will be partially subdued and from there Itachi can finish him.

Itachi's stamina was not all that better than Kakashi's. Kakashi said when training Naruto he would not be able to make 3 shadow clones in a meaningful way and doubted even the 4th Hokage could do that, you're going to tell me Itachi could? Why are you bringing Tsukuyomi into this this is 3T Itachi remember. Sharingan can't distinguish shadow clones, and for Hiruzen to be able to use 3 at a time...Itachi better not miss and get a shadow clone like he did with Kakashi in Part 2 because that cost him the match. If Hiruzen really wanted to put Itachi away he could use the reaper death seal. The fight might go either way I'm just saying Itachi won't win for sure like many people think he will.

 

[Conspirator.]

Itachi wins. People need to realise this...... the issue with sharingan genjutsu is not the genjutsu itself.(aside from high level paralysis genjutsu and tsukuyomi) It's the fact that in the second or 2 it takes to use "genjutsu kai" you are left a sitting duck where the opposition can kill you. Unless of course you have the sharingan, which can outright coutner the genjutsu with your own genjutsu(which creates a genjutsu battle), or have the ability to outright avoid eye contact and fight simultaneously, or to block the LOS of the sharingan.(like hashirama and his wood techs), or maybe have extreme speed which the sharingan can't follow. Hiruzen has none of those things. Itachi is the victor I think.

 

[Demonic.]

Itachi wins. People need to realise this...... the issue with sharingan genjutsu is not the genjutsu itself.(aside from high level paralysis genjutsu and tsukuyomi) It's the fact that in the second or 2 it takes to use "genjutsu kai" you are left a sitting duck where the opposition can kill you. Unless of course you have the sharingan, which can outright coutner the genjutsu with your own genjutsu(which creates a genjutsu battle), or have the ability to outright avoid eye contact and fight simultaneously, or to block the LOS of the sharingan.(like hashirama and his wood techs), or maybe have extreme speed which the sharingan can't follow. Hiruzen has none of those things. Itachi is the victor I think.

Hiruzen is a sensor this makes things easier to fight Genjutsu.

 

[Lytes]

Hiruzen will win this..

 

[Apêx1]

Itachi low-mid diff.