Hiruzen strongest kage as said in manga(but not ideal in some cases)PROOF

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Now, ppl might speculate that hashi was the all powerful but the maga states that hiruzen is the boss. He is revered as the god, professor. He was able to stand up to 1 and 2 and they were t thier prime. Oro could resurrect ninja in their prime(complete/full) unlike kabuto who adds a few modification(madara and muu noted this in wood release and hashi face on chest). Now, when kabuto stated that no EXISTING shinobi could match hiruzen power, he meant EXISTING. But, hiruzen couldnt have defeated madara. Reason, just like guy could take down kisame but not itachi is because of the fighting style. Hiruzen new more techniques and was better at ninjutsu thaneither of them but couldnt have defeated madara because u need senju bloodline and wood release. Its like hiruzen can beat hashi and hashi can beat madara but madara can beat hiruzen. Its all down to 'unique' style. Hiruzen had a lot of unique nijutsu but madara susanoo and meteorite technique deheats him. Plz comment if u disagree
 

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Please just get out.
 

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Hashirama > Hiruzen by feats and i only go by feats. Sorry.
 

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1st hokage is strongest ..

Madara said that ..
 

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Yeah hiruzen knew so many jutsu but hashirama can beat him.
 

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lol ur just contradicting urself just like madara who said hashi is the strongest ever didnt know about hiruzen, same goes with oro and iruka who said hiruzen is the wtrongest and they dont know sh1t about hashi, for me i say hashi since madaras words >>>>>>>>>oro's and some fodder's like iruka words+ even kabuto stated that hashi is the best and he knew about both hashi and hiruzen.
 

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By feats a 70 year old Hiruzen solod Hashirama and his babybro when they were edos.

That was Edo Hashirama and Edo Tobirama under Orochimaru's control. Tell me, why didn't Hashirama use his Wood Dragon in that fight? And Tobirama didn't use his S/T jutsu either. They were not full powered and they didn't even put up a fight.
 

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Hiruzen was called the strongest Hokage by people who believed Hashirama's feats were over exaggerated fairytales. Riddle me this; How could Shodai have such 'unbelievable' power if Sandaime Hokage's abilities granted him a God of Shinobi status? Am I to believe that people disregarded the first Hokages 'inferior' power whilst completely believing in the 3rd Hokage's exploits?
 

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This alone states that He shouldn't have won the fight against Orochimaru.

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I agree. And if we saw Hiru after the time skip and in his prime, all the retards could shut up about this U_U just look at Oro and how much stronger he got after time skip, and without his arms.... Imagine Hiru then..
 

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I think hiruzen is constantly unde-rated but he's not hashi's level
 

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Hiruzen was the strongest Kage of his generation.
 

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That was Edo Hashirama and Edo Tobirama under Orochimaru's control. Tell me, why didn't Hashirama use his Wood Dragon in that fight? And Tobirama didn't use his S/T jutsu either. They were not full powered and they didn't even put up a fight.

Because it was before the time skip... This is the same as asking why Kakashi didn't use MS against Zabuza........ CAUSE KISHI HADN'T INVENTED WOOD DRAGON YET... AND cause the general power level of every shinobi was raised with a ten fold number after the time skip...
 

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That was Edo Hashirama and Edo Tobirama under Orochimaru's control. Tell me, why didn't Hashirama use his Wood Dragon in that fight? And Tobirama didn't use his S/T jutsu either. They were not full powered and they didn't even put up a fight.

Do you believe that Kishimoto had all of Hashirama's abilities(as well as Tobirama) that are being used now planned out however many years ago that fight was made? The manga changes over time and he adds things that's why those abilities weren't shown. The edo's just had their emotions removed, he didn't manually control them.
 
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