Hiruzen Sarutobi

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by feats he's indeed weak. by hype he's stronger than Hashirama, Tobirama and base Minato.
and as you mentioned even in his old years he has the hype to be stronger than the Gokage.

someone who's stronger than hashirama, can't be called fodder, I supposed.
 

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by feats he's indeed weak. by hype he's stronger than Hashirama, Tobirama and base Minato.
and as you mentioned even in his old years he has the hype to be stronger than the Gokage.

someone who's stronger than hashirama, can't be called fodder, I supposed.
Just wait for his feats to show! :)
 

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Just wait for his feats to show! :)

I'm waiting, i think all of what happened about which hokage is the strongest or these stuff
are too soon, people don't like to wait apparently.
 

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Well how strong do you consider Hiruzen to be?

At his best? Probably top 15; Kishimoto gave him extreme mastery over ninjutsu, like Kakashi. However, he was not given a kekkai genkai, or something overpowered such as S/T to give him an edge over the monsters that are in the Top 10.
 

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I saw quite enough of Hiruzen when he was firing ordinary Shadow Shurikens at Obito.

Seriously? What the heck was that gonna do?
 

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At his best? Probably top 15; Kishimoto gave him extreme mastery over ninjutsu, like Kakashi. However, he was not given a kekkai genkai, or something overpowered such as S/T to give him an edge over the monsters that are in the Top 10.

"In this society, true power is not attained from mastering all the world's techniques. This is something I have already taught you. When there is something important to protect… that's when a shinobi's true power emerges." - Hiruzen Sarutobi
 

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I saw quite enough of Hiruzen when he was firing ordinary Shadow Shurikens at Obito.

Seriously? What the heck was that gonna do?

He was trying to analyze Obito's techniques not go for the kill. Even Sasuke notes this.
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I'm waiting, i think all of what happened about which hokage is the strongest or these stuff
are too soon, people don't like to wait apparently.

Watch as soon as Hiruzen gets an OP jutsu everyone will start riding him.
 

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"In this society, true power is not attained from mastering all the world's techniques. This is something I have already taught you. When there is something important to protect… that's when a shinobi's true power emerges." - Hiruzen Sarutobi

If I could + rep you for this, I WOULD!!!.lol
 

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From what we have seen Hiruzen is more like the male version of Sakura.. sad to say but true:(
 

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I love you MickNerks! :) Always supporting Hiruzen. But I wonder where is Kages these days in the Hiruzen threads?

Kages left the base.

Im not sure if he'll ever return. I think he got tired of how people acted on the Base.
 

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I agree. People who think the longest reigning HOKAGE is 'fodder' are sorely mistaken.
 

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Feats are he stayed alive the longest out of all of them, Hashirama, Tobirama and Minato all died relatively young, Hiruzen lived through how many wars? He reached old age and only then he got defeated, I'm sure we'll see more of him at some point.
The funny thing is, I'm not even his fan =D

Awesome!!!
 
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