hiruzen sarutobi vs minato namikize

[Ultimatevirus]

The opposite has been stated..
It's never been stated that minato was better, I suggest you read the past few pages

well.... how many time kabuto has said to naruto that he is plain stupid and does not have strength??? (m talkin abt naruto part 1)
many times.... but i can see naruto as one of the most powerful ninja.....

r u getting my point??? sometimes character exaggeration is required to make the manga better... many times it has been observed that manga contradicts itself.....

 

[Black panther]

I happen to think Minato will OBLIDERATEAFIEANIALATEEDANALRAPE sarutobi because Minato is the Chuck Norris of the naruto world and consider urself a homotrannie if u dissagree (except if u say Madara is chuck norris cause hes a ******* GOD like NIKKI MINAJ A** GOD ) .....Yess!

No offense but did you hit your head or something? Seriously.

 

[Ultimatevirus]

wind is a rarity among the five chakra natures that much was already stated... it's rare for shinobi to get that when compared to the other chakra natures...







]Dude did you not hear me say all that was shown by Hiruzen was 2 elements? He used fire for a attack, then when tobirama used a water jutsu he used it's weakness earth... That's all he got to do....

And danzo and his team were like 15-16 when they he was appointed hokage...
Look at the current 15-16 year olds team 11,.... excluding sasuke and naruto.( because they are op,) Have you seen any elements from them? No.. why would danzo have his element at that time then? when it's shown that at that age they don't get one yet...

ohhh well what????? can u also explain me about temari then... she also had n has wind element when she entered for chuunin exam...

 

[Black panther]

hiruzen, he taught minato

Jiraiya taught minato.

 

[Owarij]

well.... how many time kabuto has said to naruto that he is plain stupid and does not have strength??? (m talkin abt naruto part 1)
many times.... but i can see naruto as one of the most powerful ninja.....

r u getting my point??? sometimes character exaggeration is required to make the manga better... many times it has been observed that manga contradicts itself.....

What are you talking about? naruto is stupid.... he has battle sense only.....every other intelligence aspect naruto would fail in.... Databooks even gave him the same intelligence as hidan....

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what character exaggerations are you reffering to... You claim there are exaggeration in naruto....Give me a list

 

[Owarij]

ohhh well what????? can u also explain me about temari then... she also had n has wind element when she entered for chuunin exam...

That's because over the is the village hidden in the wind... and they specialize in wind release..and puppet techs, And as i said, just like there are rare cases for konoha-Naruto and sasuke, there are rare cases in the sand village- Temari....As kakashi said, genins aren't supposed to be able to use techniques like those,Special one's can...

 

[Ultimatevirus]

What are you talking about? naruto is stupid.... he has battle sense only.....every other intelligence aspect naruto would fail in.... Databooks even gave him the same intelligence as hidan....

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what character exaggerations are you reffering to... You claim there are exaggeration in naruto....Give me a list

first off .. what i wrote in my previous post was naruto is stupid and does not have strength claimed my kabuto in part 1.... well stupid part i understand bt tellme where the hell naruto is weak.....

now to the exaggeration part......
third kazekage , the stongest kazekage of the sand's history right? he was beaten by sasori who was not even 20 at that time..... wth aint this one a bit exaggerated?
what say about tsunade hitting jiraiya and he was almost near to death..... are u kidding there u mean someone as strong as jiraiya would come close to death so easily that too by tsunade... nd m sure tsunade would not go for her ultimate attack to beat jiraiya there.....

 

[Sagalian]

id say sandaime. his old but fought the ichidaime (?) and nidaime! hes a master of many jutsus and (it hasnt been proven/disproven) HE IS THE ONLY HOKAGE WHO ISNT OF SENJU/UZUMAKI BLOOD! oh wait....niether is Minato...lol!!

 

[Ultimatevirus]

That's because over the is the village hidden in the wind... and they specialize in wind release..and puppet techs, And as i said, just like there are rare cases for konoha-Naruto and sasuke, there are rare cases in the sand village- Temari....As kakashi said, genins aren't supposed to be able to use techniques like those,Special one's can...

lol.... how many special case u ll make...
wait wait ...then u mean that hiruzen was not special?? danzou was not special????

 

[Owarij]

first off .. what i wrote in my previous post was naruto is stupid and does not have strength claimed my madara in part 1.... well stupid part i understand bt tellme where the hell naruto is weak.....

now to the exaggeration part......
third kazekage , the stongest kazekage of the sand's history right? he was beaten by sasori who was not even 20 at that time..... wth aint this one a bit exaggerated?
what say about tsunade hitting jiraiya and he was almost near to death..... are u kidding there u mean someone as strong as jiraiya would come close to death so easily that too by tsunade... nd m sure tsunade would not go for her ultimate attack to beat jiraiya there.....

Jiraya was very serious when he said that....The two times he came on the brink of death...tsunade and Kyuubi...

And yes... you realize sasori was the strongest ninja sand village ever produced? do you also realize that he's About equal to or stronger than orochimaru? No it isn't exaggeration, what makes sasori so deadly, is that all he needs to do is get 1 scratch on you, and you're paralyzed

lol.... how many special case u ll make...
wait wait ...then u mean that hiruzen was not special?? danzou was not special????

Ofc hiruzen was special...Howelse would he know all those jutsu, and be the strongest kage?

Danzo.... Has anything been stated to show that he was special?.... No.. just a old man who was 1 of the elders, did experiments on his body etc.... There was no hype sorrunding him, nothing at all...

 

[Ultimatevirus]

Jiraya was very serious when he said that....The two times he came on the brink of death...tsunade and Kyuubi...

And yes... you realize sasori was the strongest ninja sand village ever produced? do you also realize that he's About equal to or stronger than orochimaru? No it isn't exaggeration, what makes sasori so deadly, is that all he needs to do is get 1 scratch on you, and you're paralyzed

ohh so u mean that the strongest of all kazekage,(a kage supposed to be the most powerful man of the village) was kidnapped and then killed by a man no id say a boy who was not even at the age of 20 is not exaggeration...... please improve your imagination skills....
let see why did tsunade beat jiraiya... because he was peeping at tsunade when she was bathing or something like that..... now here i dont see any reason for tsunade to get so very determined to kill jiraiya that she ll go that far to kill him..... she wld have just punched once twice multiple times just like sakura.... why wld someone as strong as jiraiya who had a reason back there to remain alive and find an apprentice who ll change the world give up his life so easily for something as small as that....

 

[Ultimatevirus]

Ofc hiruzen was special...Howelse would he know all those jutsu, and be the strongest kage?

Danzo.... Has anything been stated to show that he was special?.... No.. just a old man who was 1 of the elders, did experiments on his body etc.... There was no hype sorrunding him, nothing at all...[/QUOTE]

so if hiruzen was special and said to have mastered all the jutsus in konoha, then y the hell did he not have wind element....and get his title true...

danzo was the only capable competitor of hiruzen.... for that he need to be special....

 

[Owarij]

Ofc hiruzen was special...Howelse would he know all those jutsu, and be the strongest kage?

Danzo.... Has anything been stated to show that he was special?.... No.. just a old man who was 1 of the elders, did experiments on his body etc.... There was no hype sorrunding him, nothing at all...

so if hiruzen was special and said to have mastered all the jutsus in konoha, then y the hell did he not have wind element....and get his title true...[/QUOTE]

Mastered all existing jutsu in konoha.... Orochimaru said it in past tense... When ever he was crowned professor, He knew all jutsu in konoha... as i said danzo most likely did not get his element yet..

 

[Owarij]

ohh so u mean that the strongest of all kazekage,(a kage supposed to be the most powerful man of the village) was kidnapped and then killed by a man no id say a boy who was not even at the age of 20 is not exaggeration...... please improve your imagination skills....
let see why did tsunade beat jiraiya... because he was peeping at tsunade when she was bathing or something like that..... now here i dont see any reason for tsunade to get so very determined to kill jiraiya that she ll go that far to kill him..... she wld have just punched once twice multiple times just like sakura.... why wld someone as strong as jiraiya who had a reason back there to remain alive and find an apprentice who ll change the world give up his life so easily for something as small as that....

You need to improve your brain...You should know the kazekage isn't always the strongest in the village.... Tsunade coulndt do anything about pain, yet naruto destroyed 5 paths...You're trying to contradict a statement why? because you find it hard to believe? total and absolute bs.... and i'm not even gonna argue with your opinon when it's clearly stated in manga and dbooks

Someone can say orochimaru > Itachi all they want... That's their opinon....
The truth lies in the manga...


By you're ava I can already see why you'll go to such lengths to defend minato, so far as to disregard chiyo's statement as if she had a reason to exxagerate....

Please show me a few correctly proven exaggerations in the manga...


And whats funny is , how old is naruto? 16.... Why again couldn't sasori beat the kazekage, when naruto can clearly beat tsunade?

The sand village have never been known to have ridiculously strong kages....Orochimaru easily killed the Fourth, Sasori said he had alot of difficulty beating the third...

 

[robinsonrai]

can't really say

 

[Ultimatevirus]

so if hiruzen was special and said to have mastered all the jutsus in konoha, then y the hell did he not have wind element....and get his title true...

Mastered all existing jutsu in konoha.... Orochimaru said it in past tense... When ever he was crowned professor, He knew all jutsu in konoha... as i said danzo most likely did not get his element yet..[/QUOTE]

u r either a hiruzen fanboy or u dont want to accept the truth or u r doing it on purpose....

compare the conditions...

temari not even able to compete gara (who is not even the strongest kazekage)
could unlock the elemental jutsus....
and danzo the capable competitor of hiruzen couldnt unlock his elemental jutsus that too when he was more aged then temari at that time?????

 

[Owarij]

Mastered all existing jutsu in konoha.... Orochimaru said it in past tense... When ever he was crowned professor, He knew all jutsu in konoha... as i said danzo most likely did not get his element yet..

u r either a hiruzen fanboy or u dont want to accept the truth or u r doing it on purpose....

compare the conditions...

temari not even able to compete gara (who is not even the strongest kazekage)
could unlock the elemental jutsus....
and danzo the capable competitor of hiruzen couldnt unlock his elemental jutsus that too when he was more aged then temari at that time?????[/QUOTE]

wtf are you talking about? danzo capable competitor to Hiruzen? .....Where are you getting your info?

And dude i already explained that THE sand village.. aka the wind village... specializes in wind release... Konoha doesn't ...It's rare to find a tutor for it , it's rare to even have it...

You talk about clear facts? The only clear facts are the two statements in the manga and databook... Those are facts.. You are trying to play them off as exaggerations to save your precious minatos rep?...Kid try again

Lol @ hiruzen fanboy... I'm alot of things... 2nd hokage fan, Itachi fan, Minato fan.... I like those chars....What i don't like is people like you disregarding statements kishi makes himself...

 

[Owarij]

The smart minato fanboys iv'e met have all said, Minato and Hiruzen tie for number 1 spot, and hmmph , Why not... But when you go and say minato>hiruzen, there I have a problem

 

[Ultimatevirus]

You need to improve your brain...You should know the kazekage isn't always the strongest in the village.... Tsunade coulndt do anything about pain, yet naruto destroyed 5 paths...You're trying to contradict a statement why? because you find it hard to believe? total and absolute bs.... and i'm not even gonna argue with your opinon when it's clearly stated in manga and dbooks

Someone can say orochimaru > Itachi all they want... That's their opinon....
The truth lies in the manga...


By you're ava I can already see why you'll go to such lengths to defend minato, so far as to disregard chiyo's statement as if she had a reason to exxagerate....

Please show me a few correctly proven exaggerations in the manga...


And whats funny is , how old is naruto? 16.... Why again couldn't sasori beat the kazekage, when naruto can clearly beat tsunade?

The sand village have never been known to have ridiculously strong kages....Orochimaru easily killed the Fourth, Sasori said he had alot of difficulty beating the third...

ummm??? oro easily killed the fourth???? lol.... he killed fourth with the help of kimimaru......

naruto can beat tsunade agreed.... but see the difference naruto is the main character so he has to be able to defeat tsunade but i cant see sasori being the main character.....

 

[Ultimatevirus]

u r either a hiruzen fanboy or u dont want to accept the truth or u r doing it on purpose....

compare the conditions...

temari not even able to compete gara (who is not even the strongest kazekage)
could unlock the elemental jutsus....
and danzo the capable competitor of hiruzen couldnt unlock his elemental jutsus that too when he was more aged then temari at that time?????

wtf are you talking about? danzo capable competitor to Hiruzen? .....Where are you getting your info?

And dude i already explained that THE sand village.. aka the wind village... specializes in wind release... Konoha doesn't ...It's rare to find a tutor for it , it's rare to even have it...

You talk about clear facts? The only clear facts are the two statements in the manga and databook... Those are facts.. You are trying to play them off as exaggerations to save your precious minatos rep?...Kid try again

Lol @ hiruzen fanboy... I'm alot of things... 2nd hokage fan, Itachi fan, Minato fan.... I like those chars....What i don't like is people like you disregarding statements kishi makes himself...
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kishi never came to me and said that hiruzen is stonger than minato (sarcasm)
yeah i said hiruzen fanboy as a joke only but never mind
me too itachi fan...
back to the topic....
wait where did u post something sensible here.....
as for databook i agree hiruzen is shown stronger (already admitted in page 5)
but as far as manga goes i dont agree...