Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

[Darksharinnegan]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

look at all the third kages.

ninja war hero

all of his students

stfu dummies

 

[MisterPro]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Hiruzen > Naruto

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Hiruzen wasn't weak at all, but he is definitely overrated on this forum. It can't be helped, another forum I'm on thinks Tsunade is a top 10 contender XD

 

[SCRIBBLEoverLIFE]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

now that u think about it... at hiruzens time we have not realy learned about the strong shinobi so maybe he was the strongest out of his lot!

 

[GUCC1GU1LTY]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

i agree that he can defeat all of the ninja you said with but exept one i disagree with you

Im pretty sure he can take on and defeat harshima with high difficulty to do so tho lol

and he held his own against him wen he was old and orochimaru and the 2nd hokage ganged up on him...

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

No no no no no no!!!!! Not another one

 

[MickNerks]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Because Ninja like Minato Itachi Nagato Kakashi Gai Killer bee Etc... Where not even born there werr no Top Ninja now That was born so Ofc he was God of Shinobi Hash was dead Madara dead so that the only reason why

P's He is a weak Ninja ok lets say if he did have more chakra + stamina he still would get pwned by Minato Itachi Nagato Hashirama Madara Tobi Narut A Oonoki Etc...

First of all, everyone you named was alive when hiruzen was hokage, and since there all around the same age (wikia) its fair to say they were on top of there game.:flaw:

Second of all, hiruzen was called god of shonibi BY OROCHIMARU whilst they were fighting. This is also what had happen or was around when hiruzen and oro were fighting
-Nagato had rinnegan
-Itachi left village was classified an S-ranked nin
-Kakashi and Guy are sensei's (also fair to say in there prime if not close to it)
-Killer bee training with A and has hibachi inside of him.

Third of all, Kishi hasnt even seen hiruzen in his prime soo who the hell are you to say what he was capable of in his prime.. :sy:

Either you are completely ignorant of the clues we were given to judge hiruzen in his prime or you are simply and sadly a Hiruzen HATER..:flaw::roku::kaito:

so now please stfu

 

[Cerox0]

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First of all, everyone you named was alive when hiruzen was hokage, and since there all around the same age (wikia) its fair to say they were on top of there game.:flaw:

Second of all, hiruzen was called god of shonibi BY OROCHIMARU whilst they were fighting. This is also what had happen or was around when hiruzen and oro were fighting
-Nagato had rinnegan
-Itachi left village was classified an S-ranked nin
-Kakashi and Guy are sensei's (also fair to say in there prime if not close to it)
-Killer bee training with A and has hibachi inside of him.

Third of all, Kishi hasnt even seen hiruzen in his prime soo who the hell are you to say what he was capable of in his prime.. :sy:

Either you are completely ignorant of the clues we were given to judge hiruzen in his prime or you are simply and sadly a Hiruzen HATER..:flaw::roku::kaito:

so now please stfu

You failed.
1 a wikia is not a valid source.
2. Kakashi didn't have MS so he wasn't prime.
3. Go back a couple pages to read what I said about hiruzen, it was quoted multiple times so it shouldn't be hard

 

[NOemotions]

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This is what i mean yet u Fanboys/Girl say he was God Shinobi in his Prime that's Because the Ninja of 2day wasen't even born and from his Feats he's weak he killed himself Doing something That Nagato can do on a Regular Basis

im not fanboy, but i've read manga and followed episodes, and it was stated there that he was god of shinobi. well i dont know lol.. never seen him on action.. till in old age against oro + 2 edo hogakes.

 

[MickNerks]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

You failed.
1 a wikia is not a valid source.
2. Kakashi didn't have MS so he wasn't prime.
3. Go back a couple pages to read what I said about hiruzen, it was quoted multiple times so it shouldn't be hard

I didnt Fail..lol

1. I know wikia isnt a valid source, I put wikai there though because its the only site with age.. And im sure its safe to say that Itachi, kakashi, nagato, and killer bee are all around the same age seeing as who there sensie's are when they were young..

2. In () i said "either in their prime or CLOSE TO IT...

3. I read what you said earlier and im not overrating hiruzen, im only defending him, because no one has seen him in his prime..

4. Because no one has see him in his prime you cant say that he wasnt able to beat itachi, nagato, killer b, kasame or minato, because we have no idea how powerful hiruzen really was.. It was stated when he fought oro that what we saw him do was pathetic to what he was truely capable of.. Fair to say only a fraction of his power, Yet he still deafeated 1 hokage, 2nd hokage, and took oro's arms, and because the power scaling is diffrent between part 1 and part 2 that just means he is even more powerful..

5. the comment i made earlier wasnt directe towards you, but im happy to try to convience you as well..

 

[Tartarus]

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I'm getting sick of the power scaling was different in part 1 argument. If so many things have been retconned from part 1 why should I still believe in Hiruzen's hype in part 2 when in part 1: It was said it took 40 hand seals to use water dragon jutsu, using water style without nearby water was considered godly(despite everybody doing that now), Orochimaru acted like he wasn't even from konoha when first introduced, why should I still believe Hiruzen is the strongest hokage despite the fact that no one talks about him anymore.

 

[hit a lick]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Because Ninja like Minato Itachi Nagato Kakashi Gai Killer bee Etc... Where not even born there werr no Top Ninja now That was born so Ofc he was God of Shinobi Hash was dead Madara dead so that the only reason why

P's He is a weak Ninja ok lets say if he did have more chakra + stamina he still would get pwned by Minato Itachi Nagato Hashirama Madara Tobi Narut A Oonoki Etc...

i honestly the 3rd raikage could beat the 3rd hokage prime aswell. given when w4e seen as an edo from him. how would the third hokage wound him when he is the only one that can wound himself

 

[~MC117~]

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[6pathofpain]

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I didnt Fail..lol

1. I know wikia isnt a valid source, I put wikai there though because its the only site with age.. And im sure its safe to say that Itachi, kakashi, nagato, and killer bee are all around the same age seeing as who there sensie's are when they were young..

2. In () i said "either in their prime or CLOSE TO IT...

3. I read what you said earlier and im not overrating hiruzen, im only defending him, because no one has seen him in his prime..

4. Because no one has see him in his prime you cant say that he wasnt able to beat itachi, nagato, killer b, kasame or minato, because we have no idea how powerful hiruzen really was.. It was stated when he fought oro that what we saw him do was pathetic to what he was truely capable of.. Fair to say only a fraction of his power, Yet he still deafeated 1 hokage, 2nd hokage, and took oro's arms, and because the power scaling is diffrent between part 1 and part 2 that just means he is even more powerful..

5. the comment i made earlier wasnt directe towards you, but im happy to try to convience you as well..

I believe the 3rd was young an in his prime when the 9 tails attack but he wouldnt fight the 9 tails an said wheres minato... The god of shinobi wouldnt say that :sy: he was afraid an wouldnt fight it alone cause he wasnt confident in his own abilities. Minato was said to never be surpassed, Pain was said to be a god an invinciable, Itachi with the yata mirror an his sealing sword was said to be invincible, An the 1st was said to have super human strength an his power was of fairly tale. As far as rep goes oro said he was the god of shinobi. Honestly, who gives a **** what he say itachi beat him twice with no problem. An jus for the record, no one else who was alive then thats still alive to day was in there prime when the 3rd was. Kakashi looked like he had jus joined the anbu an itachi was still very young an if you got back to the episode youll see itachi still holdin sasuke while he was a baby when the 9 tails attack. The only person how was in there prime was minato, an i dout the 3rd can beat minato

 

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[ITACHIUCHIA101]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

as the title suggest he WAS god of shinobi because he was the first shinobi now there is more and more talented ninja

 

[wonderer]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

On my last post i said kakazu said the 1st wasnt that strong. Lol. Who ever pointed it out was right that it wasnt stated. To my defense i was tired lol. But as i checked kakazu did try and assasinate the 1st. But failed. He did survive that battle and this is before he learned earth grudge. Also why are people using edo madara as a reference to the 1st power. Like i said before hes a special edo kabuto made. With the 1st dna and rinnegan. Which he didnt have when he faced the 1st. He would crush the 1st like he is now. Its not fair to compare. Also about the 1st beating madara and the 9 tails. Wasnt it stated thatDURING the battle mito sealed the demon inside her to take madaras trumph card away. We dont know exactly what happened during that battle. We have some knowledge not all. Im not defending hiruzen. But when people are saying that certain ninjas were born after hiruzen so its not fair to say hes the best or one of the best because certain characters werent born. That statement is true for the 1st. Many ninja werent born when he was alive. Its another statement i find to not hold much meaning.

 

[Sonin]

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Hiruzen > Naruto

TROLOLOL, no naruto is par with 5 bijuu. He controls the nine tails, he has sage mode and rasenshuriken. You are a troll. Hiruzen cannot take on that.

 

[narutownsyouall]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

NO, he beat two puppets and a weak oro. Orochimaru grew so much after that fight. He was completely controlling the kages' actions. How can we say that it was there full potential when they used 3 techniques between the two of them? YOU CAN'T Mukoton would have ended Hiruzen either way.

Until I hear Kishi say that Hashirama was he god of shinobi STFU He made it if he wanted to imply that Hashirama>Hiruzen he would have already have stated something about Orochimarus Edo Tensai being incomplete or that the Kage were not at full power but he has yet to say that. If Kishi says Hashirama was the best Hokage then I'll quite Narutobase right after apoligising to you

 

[Sonin]

Re: Why Hiruzen Prime was God of Shinobi

Until I hear Kishi say that Hashirama was he god of shinobi STFU He made it if he wanted to imply that Hashirama>Hiruzen he would have already have stated something about Orochimarus Edo Tensai being incomplete or that the Kage were not at full power but he has yet to say that. If Kishi says Hashirama was the best Hokage then I'll quite Narutobase right after apoligising to you

There are soo many answers to what you just said but you would actually have to read the previous pages. Kishi may not have expected to make the 1st stronger. He also called the 4th the strongest shinobi and that only naruto can surpass him. He also called Nagato GOD. Not A GOD, GOD HIMSELF. He also said Hashi was the strongest shinobi through madara... So um i refuse to listen to hype after Kishi has gone EVERY where with it. Even Itachi was said to be untouchable with his legendary weapons.