Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

[BasedBijuu]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Because the 2nd hokage gave him an order to go back to the village, THATS WHY HE DIDNT DO IT.. I just said that hiruzen volunteered to be the decoy.. The second hokage would not let him, The second hokage would not let him, The second hokage would not let him and told him to go back to the village to become hokage.. Had to say it 3 times so you dont miss it this time..

The decoy would have died everyone in circle was smart enough to do it. Hiruzen would not have won everyone in that circle knew that as well. You said hiruzen could have killed all of the assasins that is when you became an idiot. Dont miss this cause this is the most important part. IF THEY COULD HAVE WON THEY WOULD HAVE ALL STAYED AND FOUGHT. Why don't you understand that I just don't know.:sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy:

 

[MickNerks]

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The decoy would have died everyone in circle was smart enough to do it. Hiruzen would not have won everyone in that circle knew that as well. You said hiruzen could have killed all of the assasins that is when you became an idiot. Dont miss this cause this is the most important part. IF THEY COULD HAVE WON THEY WOULD HAVE ALL STAYED AND FOUGHT. Why don't you understand that I just don't know.:sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy:

I do understand that, because the girl in the group asked to all stay back and fight, but for reasons unknown they didnt. Idk why tobimaru just didnt use his space time ninjutsu to teleport them away or something, i dont know why tobimaru didnt use edo tensei to make the numbers even or give them an advantage. All i know is that sarutobi had shadow clone jutsu, which could have also helped.. Plot no jutsu is a B!+ch.. I said hiruzen could have won because of his skills as a ninja and the fact that he had large chakra reserve to use multi-shadow clone jutsu..

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

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1. Hiruzen said "Im the best of all of us", you can take it as him talking about the team, but i take it as everyone in the circle, We just have diffrent view on that.

2. Its funny you say that we should believe the 2nd was the greatess in the village because danzo said it. Because many people say we shouldnt believe Iruku when he saids hiruzen was the strongest hokage to ever live. So you can make a choice: either you believe what danzo said about 2nd being the greatest in the village, but then you have to believ that iruka was right too when he said hiruzen was the stronges hokage to ever live, or you can not believe what iruka says but then you also cant believe what danzo says about the 2nd being the strongest in the village. You cant be bias, so chose carefully.lol

Are you serious? You seriously think Hiruzen was stronger than the 2nd when he made that statement? I do not know if you are being stubborn or not but that is ridiculous. :sy:

 

[MickNerks]

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Are you serious? You seriously think Hiruzen was stronger than the 2nd when he made that statement? I do not know if you are being stubborn or not but that is ridiculous. :sy:

no im just bored and wanna piss people off, lmao.. idk what to believe anymore, i just wanna get to the end of the manga so we can have everything in the open.. honestly i really dont care who is stronger between hashirama and hiruzen.. I just wanna see how powerful naruto will end up being b4 the manga is over.
When dbz ended goku became a god, so just curious to see what happends to naruto.

 

[BasedBijuu]

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I do understand that, because the girl in the group asked to all stay back and fight, but for reasons unknown they didnt. Idk why tobimaru just didnt use his space time ninjutsu to teleport them away or something, i dont know why tobimaru didnt use edo tensei to make the numbers even or give them an advantage. All i know is that sarutobi had shadow clone jutsu, which could have also helped.. Plot no jutsu is a B!+ch.. I said hiruzen could have won because of his skills as a ninja and the fact that he had large chakra reserve to use multi-shadow clone jutsu..

The phrase you were looking for is I was wrong repeating why he could have won when it is obvious he couldn't is ridiculous.

 

[BasedBijuu]

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no im just bored and wanna piss people off, lmao.. idk what to believe anymore, i just wanna get to the end of the manga so we can have everything in the open.. honestly i really dont care who is stronger between hashirama and hiruzen.. I just wanna see how powerful naruto will end up being b4 the manga is over.
When dbz ended goku became a god, so just curious to see what happends to naruto.

I look stupid so I will just say I was joking that'll fool um.

 

[MickNerks]

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The phrase you were looking for is I was wrong repeating why he could have won when it is obvious he couldn't is ridiculous.

your right, im wrong, you win.. Im tired.. Hashirama is dead and gaara is alive thats all that matters (pure fanboyism)..lol

 

[MickNerks]

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I look stupid so I will just say I was joking that'll fool um.

Yep you caught me, your right about everything.. are you really kishi in disguise?
Arguing is pointless.. Im tired and you know your not wrong so im leaving, if you still wanna argue you can go to the hiruzen (god debate) thread..lol its fresh.:shrug:

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

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no im just bored and wanna piss people off, lmao.. idk what to believe anymore, i just wanna get to the end of the manga so we can have everything in the open.. honestly i really dont care who is stronger between hashirama and hiruzen.. I just wanna see how powerful naruto will end up being b4 the manga is over.
When dbz ended goku became a god, so just curious to see what happends to naruto.

Well hopefully Kishi answers all the questions that are left out in the open lol xd

I would love to see more flashbacks of real important things, I like Kabutos flashbacks, but a flashback of the 1st hokage vs Madara would be appreciated. Or showing Hiruzen in his prime.

 

[Sukalotta Kok]

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1. Hiruzen said "Im the best of all of us", you can take it as him talking about the team, but i take it as everyone in the circle, We just have diffrent view on that.

2. Its funny you say that we should believe the 2nd was the greatess in the village because danzo said it. Because many people say we shouldnt believe Iruku when he saids hiruzen was the strongest hokage to ever live. So you can make a choice: either you believe what danzo said about 2nd being the greatest in the village, but then you have to believ that iruka was right too when he said hiruzen was the stronges hokage to ever live, or you can not believe what iruka says but then you also cant believe what danzo says about the 2nd being the strongest in the village. You cant be bias, so chose carefully.lol

I knew someone would quote me on that. True who cares what Danzo said, but what was said was that Hiruzen was stronger than Tobimaru at that point in time which is false.

A hokage = strongest ninja in the village idiot. Never said because danzo said it you did. Please stop your making this to easy.

Naruto>Tsunade..

 

[Don Drama]

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Dude, the answer who wins is in the bold part idiot.
It's stated that in the previous manga chapters that the 5 kages are nowhere in near the power of both hashirama and madara. Don't you think that you overrating him too much? The manga itself said it.

We didn't say that hashirama was invincible bec of the bijuu and the bijuu was too much for hiruzen too handle alone.

It doesn't matter that he knows a ton of jutsu but do you think that he can use that all at hashirama? Probably all hokages after the invention of edo tensei knows how to disable it.

Founding konoha and defeating madara + controlling several bijuu's is also enough to say how strong and great shinobi hashirama is also right?
Show me the proof that hiruzen knows medical ninjutsu? I will be waiting.

That's the point, no one attacked konoha because of the war! you should really know what you are saying my friend. They obeyed hiruzen because he was a hokage for damn sake! Use your common sense dude.

By reading the quality of your post, you are like a cave man with a club proving a point.

Yes, you might be a Manga geek, but you have to improve your reading comprehension, if that is, you understand what I'm saying. Yet again, don't get me wrong, I'm not insulting or mocking you intellectual capacity. Just saying that you're not good as you think.

Looking back at your post, it's loaded with incosistency and fallacies at the highest degree. I took the liberty to bold the sentences for you and rest of the members to see. Here are the following:

1.) It's stated that in the previous manga chapters that the 5 kages are nowhere in near the power of both hashirama and madara.

Now, you're talking about what Madara said about the strength of the current 5 kages compared to Hashirama. The comparison wasn't meant for Hiruzen. So this statement is invalid to evaluate the status quo "Hashirama - Hiruzen" comparison.

2.) It doesn't matter that he knows a ton of jutsu but do you think that he can use that all at hashirama? Probably all hokages after the invention of edo tensei knows how to disable it.

Let me cite one example; in Economics, a person with $100.00 has a greater purchasing power than a person with $1.00. In shinobi terms, the more jutsu who have learn the better. This applies to Hiruzen and his 1000 jutsus, if you know logic, Hiruzen for sure have mastered a Kage Level Medical and Healing Jutsu. Asking for proof about this is like asking me to open up your skull to see your brain.

All the Hokages who's knew how to diffuse the EDO Tensei..I think not. Most of the people, not only the Hokages, heard the story of this jutsu..nothing more.

3.) That's the point, no one attacked konoha because of the war! you should really know what you are saying my friend. They obeyed hiruzen because he was a hokage for damn sake! Use your common sense dude.

Nobody attacked Konoha because of the war... HELLO!!
Danzo simply obeyed Hiruzen because he was the Hokage... HELLO!!

All these boils down into one conclusion, Hiruzen Sarutobi is crazy strong.

 

[sage of the 69 paths]

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if anybody said this sorry i am saying it again that hiruzen beat tobirama and hashirama at the chunnin exams right.

 

[MickNerks]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

I knew someone would quote me on that. True who cares what Danzo said, but what was said was that Hiruzen was stronger than Tobimaru at that point in time which is false.


Naruto>Tsunade..

I was making an assumption, but your probally rigth. There is no proof that Hiruzen was stronger than tobimaru at that time.. I spoke without proper knowledge..


Dont mind him (BasedBijuu), he will always think he's right..lol In his mind tsunade is probally stronger than naruto because she can heal herself instantly.lmao:sy:

 

[bmnaruto]

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By reading the quality of your post, you are like a cave man with a club proving a point.

Yes, you might be a Manga geek, but you have to improve your reading comprehension, if that is, you understand what I'm saying. Yet again, don't get me wrong, I'm not insulting or mocking you intellectual capacity. Just saying that you're not good as you think.

Looking back at your post, it's loaded with incosistency and fallacies at the highest degree. I took the liberty to bold the sentences for you and rest of the members to see. Here are the following:

1.) It's stated that in the previous manga chapters that the 5 kages are nowhere in near the power of both hashirama and madara.

Now, you're talking about what Madara said about the strength of the current 5 kages compared to Hashirama. The comparison wasn't meant for Hiruzen. So this statement is invalid to evaluate the status quo "Hashirama - Hiruzen" comparison.

2.) It doesn't matter that he knows a ton of jutsu but do you think that he can use that all at hashirama? Probably all hokages after the invention of edo tensei knows how to disable it.

Let me cite one example; in Economics, a person with $100.00 has a greater purchasing power than a person with $1.00. In shinobi terms, the more jutsu who have learn the better. This applies to Hiruzen and his 1000 jutsus, if you know logic, Hiruzen for sure have mastered a Kage Level Medical and Healing Jutsu. Asking for proof about this is like asking me to open up your skull to see your brain.

All the Hokages who's knew how to diffuse the EDO Tensei..I think not. Most of the people, not only the Hokages, heard the story of this jutsu..nothing more.

3.) That's the point, no one attacked konoha because of the war! you should really know what you are saying my friend. They obeyed hiruzen because he was a hokage for damn sake! Use your common sense dude.

Nobody attacked Konoha because of the war... HELLO!!
Danzo simply obeyed Hiruzen because he was the Hokage... HELLO!!

All these boils down into one conclusion, Hiruzen Sarutobi is crazy strong.

By just looking at the 2nd statement, I'd already knew that you have no proof of what the hell are you saying. You're just simply comparing humans to naruto. In fact, you dont have enough proof to back your post up. You're just using english just to make you cool when you're not and + you look really stupid with it.

You just don't get it do you? It looks like that you're the one who is the caveman. I didn't say that the comparison was for hiruzen, Im just saying that the power of the 5 kages had is nothing compared to hashirama and madara himself so that goes the same for hiruzen. Do you think that hiruzen> 5 kages? if yes, you're an idiot.

So you are saying that hiruzen is stronger than anyone else because of the 1000 jutsus in his arsenal? It does not count whether you knew thousand of jutsus or not, It's how you use it in a fight. As I said, Do you think that he can use all his jutsu against hashirama? use your common sense you idiot.
You can't even show any proof that he uses medical ninjutsu so why open mine if you need to open your's first? :sy:

I said only the hokages so why include other shinobi's?



So what's your point there?
You really are stupid. You don't event understand my post and yet you respond to it. Poor you :sy:

 

[BasedBijuu]

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I was making an assumption, but your probally rigth. There is no proof that Hiruzen was stronger than tobimaru at that time.. I spoke without proper knowledge..


Dont mind him (BasedBijuu), he will always think he's right..lol In his mind tsunade is probally stronger than naruto because she can heal herself instantly.lmao:sy:

In my mind your an idiot. In reality your an idiot. In your mind you probably think hiruzen can take on all madara, minato, and kabuto at the same time because his prime is just that good.

 

[narutosixpath]

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i agree!

 

[Don Drama]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

By just looking at the 2nd statement, I'd already knew that you have no proof of what the hell are you saying. You're just simply comparing humans to naruto. In fact, you dont have enough proof to back your post up. You're just using english just to make you cool when you're not and + you look really stupid with it.

Really I don't want to call you PEA BRAIN!, STUPID!, IDIOT! little brown man. So please stop calling me names or else I will unleash my English Wrath on your little brown sorry @$$!! .. just kidding.

Now, if you need some proof, I have something in store for you:

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Knowledge of Jutsu is essential. You have to live with it.

 

[bmnaruto]

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Really I don't want to call you PEA BRAIN!, STUPID!, IDIOT! little brown man. So please stop calling me names or else I will unleash my English Wrath on your little brown sorry @$$!! .. just kidding.

Now, if you need some proof, I have something in store for you:

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Knowledge of Jutsu is essential. You have to live with it.

Then go ahead xd
Where's the medical ninjutsu there?
you still gave me no proof

 

[MickNerks]

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In my mind your an idiot. In reality your an idiot. In your mind you probably think hiruzen can take on all madara, minato, and kabuto at the same time because his prime is just that good.

HAHAHAHA.. you really like calling people idiots.lol are you insecure or something.lol

and i know hiruzen couldnt beat all three of them at the same time but then again neither can hashirama..xd

 

[Kiiszame]

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The 3rd I way past his prime yet was able to fight the ninetails and the other 2 hokages controlled under oro. I gotta give him credit. If anyone could match the 1st it'd be him.