Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

who is stronger

  • Hiruzen (3rd Hokage)

    Votes: 239 33.8%
  • Hashirama (1st Hokage)

    Votes: 469 66.2%

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The Hidden Shinobi

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I dont knw whaaat 2 say I just started hating hiruzen bcuz of comparison lyk this he was just considered the strongest kage which he wasn't nd he is nothin compared 2 hashi. even in his prime cuzzzz' that was Naruto the old series when he was considered the strongest hokagee and this is currently shippuden where hashirama. is considered 2 have godly powers and the strongest villain ever seen Madara himself praising Hashirama den who the hell is Hiruzen :D i think Hiruzen is the first and last character i ever hated :D


See whaat i found this buddy is correct as hel :





I am glad i read this :) finally
As soon as I made it hashi and hiruzen threads were banned I was so annoyed no one got to read it.
 

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I read the interview, he says Minato was the strongest dead shinobi... Why are you arguing for Hiruzen :sy: Although he says Hiruzen shares it, he singled out Minato as the strongest dead one, so that pretty much implies Hiruzen isn't quite as strong as him but would be a good match.
 

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I read the interview, he says Minato was the strongest dead shinobi... Why are you arguing for Hiruzen :sy: Although he says Hiruzen shares it, he singled out Minato as the strongest dead one, so that pretty much implies Hiruzen isn't quite as strong as him but would be a good match.
the interview says they are the same.. But hiruzen is stronger than hashirama and minato.. Manga says it so it is true
 

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Hiruzen >Hashirama and Tobirama since they died before him. Hiruzen lost to Oro after beating them. And this is manga fact if you want to read it. They were not toying with him Orochimaru was because he summoned them to cause grief to him. They can not toy with them because they have no control over their bodies. Hiruzen did this in old age and we haven'tseen them prime so.... Seriously stop hating.
 

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Hiruzen >Hashirama and Tobirama since they died before him. Hiruzen lost to Oro after beating them. And this is manga fact if you want to read it. They were not toying with him Orochimaru was because he summoned them to cause grief to him. They can not toy with them because they have no control over their bodies. Hiruzen did this in old age and we haven'tseen them prime so.... Seriously stop hating.
They be hating.. smh
 

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Hiruzen >Hashirama and Tobirama since they died before him. Hiruzen lost to Oro after beating them. And this is manga fact if you want to read it. They were not toying with him Orochimaru was because he summoned them to cause grief to him. They can not toy with them because they have no control over their bodies. Hiruzen did this in old age and we haven'tseen them prime so.... Seriously stop hating.
Hashi and tobirama was not in control of their bodies oro did not know their full capabilities. Why didn't hashi use his tree world? You have to leave an edo in complete control of their bodies to see what they can do. Which is why kabuto said "yes I can finally see a fradment of the so6p power" when he let madara do what he wants.

Why is kabuto saying yes? the answer is because he doesn't know what madara can do and he finally gets to see it.
 

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But Hiruzen was getting his ass kicked.. o_O and plus The first and the second were toying with hiruzen.. lol. Sealing was a desperation move.. Therefore he did not beat them. IF he had lived then yes.. but he died
what makes you think they were toying with him? and the fact they they were adleast 40 years younger than him
 

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What is there to discuss. Kishi said it in that interview U_U Sandaime is no. 1..

But it is true that if Kishi wanted to show us his "true" powers through a flash back, he would have to show some crazy shit. I mean he can upg his powers with no problems from fans, since he upg'ed everyones power in part 2.
 

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Shut it newbies, now it's official. TOBIRAMA stated that they WERE at full power with OROCHIMARU's edo tensei right now, THAT means that THEY weren't even at 1/3 of their powers against Hiruzen, DO not forget that Part 1's story was incomplete and badly thought, the edo tensei just started its debut and ORochimaru probably had no experience using it properly. What's more, you've finally seen Hashirama fight, if you believe HIRUZEN is this strong then GO shoot yourself, there's no WAY Hashirama was serious against Hiruzen, LOOK at the amount of jutsus he has and how he masters Sage Mode and CAN enter that mode during a battle or a movement which Naruto CANNOT yet. Seeing as he took on a Kyuubi protected by Susanoo, it's already official, HASHIRAMA's feats are WAY over Hiruzen's, PART 1 Naruto is too old and it's a rotten and dull hype, it's completely stupid to even call him the God of Shinobi now, Masashi MADE Kabuto say that IN order for you, people, TO UNDERSTAND that HASHIRAMA is NOW stated to be THE STRONGEST HOKAGE. So please, JUST stop saying stupidities, THIS forum itself is full of morons, I can't believe the amount of stubborn retards who take every words for granted and use the SAME ARGUMENT over again mentioned by an incompetent and one of the shittiest jonins who even reads One Piece and comes up with statements out of his ass, Iruka. Let's not forget about the difference in generation, Hiruzen is stated God of Shinobi by Iruka, a ninja FROM his generation himself, HASHIRAMA is SPOKE OF IN EVERY generations, HE IS completely praised for his power, we don't even hear about Hiruzen anymore because he is not of any threat at all, he is one of the strongest hokage, and even so, we don't know. Tobirama's Hiraishin already puts him above Hiruzen to begin with, he created the edo tensei and he uses Suiton without any water source, he has variations of it and can even make a blade as a weapon or empower his kunai with Suiton. It's completely pointless to talk about Hiruzen when he used a forbidden jutsu and fought two 1/3 of Tobirama and Hashirama' powers. If you go on and compare him to other KAGES then yes, Hiruzen is easily one of the strongest, but when it comes to hokages, then no, he is probably the third strongest to begin with, or the second, but I won't accept him in Hashirama's seat because that's obviously bullcrap and nonsense.
 

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Shut it newbies, now it's official. TOBIRAMA stated that they WERE at full power with OROCHIMARU's edo tensei right now, THAT means that THEY weren't even at 1/3 of their powers against Hiruzen, DO not forget that Part 1's story was incomplete and badly thought, the edo tensei just started its debut and ORochimaru probably had no experience using it properly. What's more, you've finally seen Hashirama fight, if you believe HIRUZEN is this strong then GO shoot yourself, there's no WAY Hashirama was serious against Hiruzen, LOOK at the amount of jutsus he has and how he masters Sage Mode and CAN enter that mode during a battle or a movement which Naruto CANNOT yet. Seeing as he took on a Kyuubi protected by Susanoo, it's already official, HASHIRAMA's feats are WAY over Hiruzen's, PART 1 Naruto is too old and it's a rotten and dull hype, it's completely stupid to even call him the God of Shinobi now, Masashi MADE Kabuto say that IN order for you, people, TO UNDERSTAND that HASHIRAMA is NOW stated to be THE STRONGEST HOKAGE. So please, JUST stop saying stupidities, THIS forum itself is full of morons, I can't believe the amount of stubborn retards who take every words for granted and use the SAME ARGUMENT over again mentioned by an incompetent and one of the shittiest jonins who even reads One Piece and comes up with statements out of his ass, Iruka. Let's not forget about the difference in generation, Hiruzen is stated God of Shinobi by Iruka, a ninja FROM his generation himself, HASHIRAMA is SPOKE OF IN EVERY generations, HE IS completely praised for his power, we don't even hear about Hiruzen anymore because he is not of any threat at all, he is one of the strongest hokage, and even so, we don't know. Tobirama's Hiraishin already puts him above Hiruzen to begin with, he created the edo tensei and he uses Suiton without any water source, he has variations of it and can even make a blade as a weapon or empower his kunai with Suiton. It's completely pointless to talk about Hiruzen when he used a forbidden jutsu and fought two 1/3 of Tobirama and Hashirama' powers. If you go on and compare him to other KAGES then yes, Hiruzen is easily one of the strongest, but when it comes to hokages, then no, he is probably the third strongest to begin with, or the second, but I won't accept him in Hashirama's seat because that's obviously bullcrap and nonsense.
you are extremely late on your response, and this has already been said in other threads.
 
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