Hiruzen Sarutobi: "The GOD of shinobi" arguments

[BasedBijuu]

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Part one, Back in part one, in part one they said, well in part one, I am seeing a common pattern in you people supporting hiruzen you cant get past part one. In part 2 who is hyping hiruzen. In part 2 who has mentioned hiruzen. If hiruzen is the strongest is the strongest kage ever name one person except orichmaru that he fought and won. You name one person that equals Madara and the Kyuubi at once than I will see some point in your argument. Go ahead try I will be waiting.

 

[SAGE OF ALL ELEMENTS]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Wow..37 pages...O_O

Anyways , harashima for me

 

[zerphon]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

well i dont think hiruzen can stop the tailed beast ball launched or used by kurama


plus all five kages (currently) had a hard time beating him and they have still not beat him

:anbus:

 

[Unorthodox]

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hiruzen already won

 

[Owarij]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Part one, Back in part one, in part one they said, well in part one, I am seeing a common pattern in you people supporting hiruzen you cant get past part one. In part 2 who is hyping hiruzen. In part 2 who has mentioned hiruzen. If hiruzen is the strongest is the strongest kage ever name one person except orichmaru that he fought and won. You name one person that equals Madara and the Kyuubi at once than I will see some point in your argument. Go ahead try I will be waiting.

Wtf? we haven't got a scene with hiruzen yet

your problem is that you think a season 2 or a part 2 discredits everything from the previous season..
BULLshit..

IT'S one story... Part 1, time skip part 2... Kabuto hyped hiruzen in part 1, we never got too see hiruzen fight, but we know how strong her was..
this is how story tellers give info on characters.. through hype..
without hype, we wouldn't have known White fang was a feared genius who most ninja failed to even compare to..

without hype we wouldn't know the third kazekage was the strongest kazekage

WHY do you discredit hiruzen's? 3 Databooks... and manga statements from kaabuto and iruka showing his power... and you claim he is no where near hashi's power?

Kabuto comes in part 2 and gives hashi a little hype, THEN SAYS that all the ninja who were on his level ARE DEAD

you completely ignore that part ^
you completely ignore that according to kabuto there were others as strong as him
But you go ahead with your ludicrous statements that he alone could solo the 5 kage..
NO ...He is stronger than all the kages.... He can beatt all of the kages.. but he cannot defeat the 5 kages aligned.. If you think he can do that

LIST the other ninja who could also accomplish that task.. seeing that there are others on hashirama's level

go ahead
LIST all the ninja "according to kabuto" , who are comparable to hashirama, who would also be able to solo 5 kage


And then you go on about the fking controlling of bijuu.. Don't you get that he has a unique ability to supress bijuu chakra? wtf? how is that say anything?

Hebi Sasuke could control manda and summons with his 3 tomoe ,
Minato can't

Does that mean sasuke > Minato

For fk sakes all of your arguments are ridiculous... It's been a few days and all i'm seeing is " He could tame bijuu's he's stronger"
...................................................
I don't know if you people understand it's his kkg

*Rant Mode off *

plus all five kages (currently) had a hard time beating him and they have still not beat him

...... The five kages are against A fusion of edo rinnegan madara and hashirama...

Hard time beating HIM?

 

[Sukalotta Kok]

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Wtf? we haven't got a scene with hiruzen yet

your problem is that you think a season 2 or a part 2 discredits everything from the previous season..
BULLshit..

IT'S one story... Part 1, time skip part 2... Kabuto hyped hiruzen in part 1, we never got too see hiruzen fight, but we know how strong her was..
this is how story tellers give info on characters.. through hype..
without hype, we wouldn't have known White fang was a feared genius who most ninja failed to even compare to..

without hype we wouldn't know the third kazekage was the strongest kazekage

WHY do you discredit hiruzen's? 3 Databooks... and manga statements from kaabuto and iruka showing his power... and you claim he is no where near hashi's power?

Kabuto comes in part 2 and gives hashi a little hype, THEN SAYS that all the ninja who were on his level ARE DEAD

you completely ignore that part ^
you completely ignore that according to kabuto there were others as strong as him
But you go ahead with your ludicrous statements that he alone could solo the 5 kage..
NO ...He is stronger than all the kages.... He can beatt all of the kages.. but he cannot defeat the 5 kages aligned.. If you think he can do that

LIST the other ninja who could also accomplish that task.. seeing that there are others on hashirama's level

go ahead
LIST all the ninja "according to kabuto" , who are comparable to hashirama, who would also be able to solo 5 kage


And then you go on about the fking controlling of bijuu.. Don't you get that he has a unique ability to supress bijuu chakra? wtf? how is that say anything?

Hebi Sasuke could control manda and summons with his 3 tomoe ,
Minato can't

Does that mean sasuke > Minato

For fk sakes all of your arguments are ridiculous... It's been a few days and all i'm seeing is " He could tame bijuu's he's stronger"
...................................................
I don't know if you people understand it's his kkg

*Rant Mode off *






...... The five kages are against A fusion of edo rinnegan madara and hashirama...

Hard time beating HIM?

What're you trying to say? Hiruzen > Hash?
The point of Hash being able to suppress The Bijuu's shows that he can take on a bijuu, not the point that he can control one or defeat one. Controlling a bijuu as your fight Madara, and win? how difficult would that be?

You hype Hiruzen as if he defeated a whole army by himself when in fact we have NOT seen Hiruzen in battle. We've only heard stories of him being strong but never him doing anything significant. I said this once and I'll keep saying it again, Hiruzen Lost To Orochimaru end of story. Hashirama did the impossibles. Madara hypes Hashirama up so much because that's how strong Hash is. Even when Madara has Mokoton and Rinnegan he states that Hashirama would be a better match up then the 5 kages & says that Hash is the only one who can defeat him , after seeing him play around with the kages shows what hash had to deal with to win. Madara hasn't mastered mokuton, it's not on Hash's level. Noone will as Kabuto states.

Hash's DNA is what Kabuto/Orochimaru/Tobi chased after, not Hiruzen's. Hash protected Konoha from Madara twice. Hiruzen didn't. Hash def. A bijuu by himself, Hiruzen couldn't, if he was a god and strong as people hyped him to b he could take on a bijuu but he's not all that with the supposive"1000 jutsu's" he has.

 

[MickNerks]

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trolling kages?

the thing that is trolling kages

is an edo and combination of hashirama and Madara..

without complete susanno and rinnegan , madara would have been dead a long time ago, if he only used hashirama powers..

hashirama in no way can solo the 5 kages
neither can madara..

their combination can....

As i said before, hashirama is a normal high kage level ninja.. he was stronger than all the 5 kage yes, but according to kabuto there were ninja on his level... but they are dead..

wanna guess those ninja?
Oh yeah, The same guy kabuto hyped back in part1 to be stronger than the current kages even in old age...

You speak the TRUTH, but the sad thing is that your words are falling on ignorant ears.. Hype is the only thing people wanna hear nowadays, not Fact.. If hashirama was really powerful he wouldnt have died at a young age, yet he did, and people ignore that fact.. smh

 

[BasedBijuu]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Wtf? we haven't got a scene with hiruzen yet

your problem is that you think a season 2 or a part 2 discredits everything from the previous season..
BULLshit..

IT'S one story... Part 1, time skip part 2... Kabuto hyped hiruzen in part 1, we never got too see hiruzen fight, but we know how strong her was..
this is how story tellers give info on characters.. through hype..
without hype, we wouldn't have known White fang was a feared genius who most ninja failed to even compare to..

without hype we wouldn't know the third kazekage was the strongest kazekage

WHY do you discredit hiruzen's? 3 Databooks... and manga statements from kaabuto and iruka showing his power... and you claim he is no where near hashi's power?

Kabuto comes in part 2 and gives hashi a little hype, THEN SAYS that all the ninja who were on his level ARE DEAD

you completely ignore that part ^
you completely ignore that according to kabuto there were others as strong as him
But you go ahead with your ludicrous statements that he alone could solo the 5 kage..
NO ...He is stronger than all the kages.... He can beatt all of the kages.. but he cannot defeat the 5 kages aligned.. If you think he can do that

LIST the other ninja who could also accomplish that task.. seeing that there are others on hashirama's level

go ahead
LIST all the ninja "according to kabuto" , who are comparable to hashirama, who would also be able to solo 5 kage


And then you go on about the fking controlling of bijuu.. Don't you get that he has a unique ability to supress bijuu chakra? wtf? how is that say anything?

Hebi Sasuke could control manda and summons with his 3 tomoe ,
Minato can't

Does that mean sasuke > Minato

For fk sakes all of your arguments are ridiculous... It's been a few days and all i'm seeing is " He could tame bijuu's he's stronger"
...................................................
I don't know if you people understand it's his kkg

*Rant Mode off *






...... The five kages are against A fusion of edo rinnegan madara and hashirama...

Hard time beating HIM?

Couldn't name one person could you. I win. For your information I am enjoying those tears you just cried

 

[MickNerks]

Re: Hiruzen Sarutobi: The GOD shinobi Vote!!!!

Part one, Back in part one, in part one they said, well in part one, I am seeing a common pattern in you people supporting hiruzen you cant get past part one. In part 2 who is hyping hiruzen. In part 2 who has mentioned hiruzen. If hiruzen is the strongest is the strongest kage ever name one person except orichmaru that he fought and won. You name one person that equals Madara and the Kyuubi at once than I will see some point in your argument. Go ahead try I will be waiting.

People arnt hyping hiruzen because :
1. Madara wasnt around when Prime Hiruzen was on the scene.
2. Hiruzen cant be brought back because his soul is sealed, so no1 can see his power.

BUT:
3.Kabuto did give credit by stating that no1 alive is stronger or as strong as hashirama.. Well look at that Hiruzen is DEAD..

 

[Owarij]

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You speak the TRUTH, but the sad thing is that your words are falling on ignorant ears.. Hype is the only thing people wanna hear nowadays, not Fact.. If hashirama was really powerful he wouldnt have died at a young age, yet he did, and people ignore that fact.. smh

I can't argue with these people..

For god sakes they are saying this man can solo the 5 kage..

when kabuto clearly states there were ninjas on his level

Were there a bunch of ninjas running around who could solo 5 kage?

:O am i missing something here???
please tell me the list of these dead OP ninjas who could all solo the 5 kage

 

[Owarij]

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Couldn't name one person could you. I win. For your information I am enjoying those tears you just cried

name one person what?

are you friken dense? They wanted hashirama's dna because it was a two in one package

His kkg
AND senju dna...

it's much better than going for tobirama's dna.. where you only get senju dna..

you do realize hiruzen IS NOT A SENJU RIGHT?

Or are you saying because hashi is a senju, it makes him stronger? ... i'd like to just point out one person

tsunade. that is all


i'm still waiting on you to make the list of the NINJAS that are on hashirama's level that kabuto talked about..

according to you he can solo the 5 kage?

Good
list the dead ninja who can solo the 5 kage also

hint hint- so6p and his sons weren't ninja

 

[0moi]

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Couldn't name one person could you. I win. For your information I am enjoying those tears you just cried

What do you mean couldn't name 1 person, about what?

 

[TheSages456]

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I can't argue with these people..

For god sakes they are saying this man can solo the 5 kage..

when kabuto clearly states there were ninjas on his level

Were there a bunch of ninjas running around who could solo 5 kage?

:O am i missing something here???
please tell me the list of these dead OP ninjas who could all solo the 5 kage

madara said that the 5 kages were crap compared to hashirama and all of hashiramas techs were on an entirely different scale than theirs. he also said hashirama would be a better challenge than the 5 kage. the shinobi back in hashiramas era were much stronger than todays shinobi. they had to get stronger as it was a necessity. they lived in constant war.

 

[BasedBijuu]

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name one person what?

are you friken dense? They wanted hashirama's dna because it was a two in one package

His kkg
AND senju dna...

it's much better than going for tobirama's dna.. where you only get senju dna..

you do realize hiruzen IS NOT A SENJU RIGHT?

Or are you saying because hashi is a senju, it makes him stronger? ... i'd like to just point out one person

tsunade. that is all

Are you dense I asked you who has hiruzen ever beat excluding the orochimaru fight because that one was a tie at best. Known of you people can name one fight that your so called strongest hokage has been in or won case and point you lose baby.

 

[Owarij]

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Are you dense I asked you who has hiruzen ever beat excluding the orochimaru fight because that one was a tie at best. Known of you people can name one fight that your so called strongest hokage has been in or won case and point you lose baby.

Are you retarded?

Tell me..

Who has shishui beaten?

Who has izuna beaten?

Who has Tobirama beaten?

Who has the third kazekage beaten?

Who did ems madara beat ? other than kid oonoki
KISHI can't put every fight since the beginning of ninja time into the manga..
he has used hype for us to know that shishui was a ninja as strong as itachi, one of the strongest in the uchiha clan... Feared globally as shishui of the body flicker. and feared as being the best genjutsu user of the uchiha

izuna was hyped to be as strong as madara.. equals..

Tobirama was hyped to be one of the strongest of his time.. Greatest suiton user known to man... Genius and space time user rivaling that of minato's

You obviously do not know what hype is, or what it does in a story, you're retarded , this much is obvious

 

[MickNerks]

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What're you trying to say? Hiruzen > Hash?
The point of Hash being able to suppress The Bijuu's shows that he can take on a bijuu, not the point that he can control one or defeat one. Controlling a bijuu as your fight Madara, and win? how difficult would that be?

You hype Hiruzen as if he defeated a whole army by himself when in fact we have NOT seen Hiruzen in battle. We've only heard stories of him being strong but never him doing anything significant. I said this once and I'll keep saying it again, Hiruzen Lost To Orochimaru end of story. Hashirama did the impossibles. Madara hypes Hashirama up so much because that's how strong Hash is. Even when Madara has Mokoton and Rinnegan he states that Hashirama would be a better match up then the 5 kages & says that Hash is the only one who can defeat him , after seeing him play around with the kages shows what hash had to deal with to win. Madara hasn't mastered mokuton, it's not on Hash's level. Noone will as Kabuto states.

Hash's DNA is what Kabuto/Orochimaru/Tobi chased after, not Hiruzen's. Hash protected Konoha from Madara twice. Hiruzen didn't. Hash def. A bijuu by himself, Hiruzen couldn't, if he was a god and strong as people hyped him to b he could take on a bijuu but he's not all that with the supposive"1000 jutsu's" he has.

Please stop saying Hiruzen lost to orochimaru, because worst can be said about Hashirama..

1. Hashirama died young.. If he was as OP as you say he is, to where he could beat this OP edo MADARA, then he wouldnt have died and would have been hokage either as long or longer than Hiruzen.. At least we can say Hiruzen died BEATING orochimaru. We dont know what (weak) shinobi killed your (so called) GOD hashirama. and the only reason i call the shinobi weak is because nobody gives him credit for killing hashirama which means he was probally an assasin.. smh

2. Madara said hashirama would put up a better fight, but he never said hashirama could beat him.. EDO Madara would curb stomp Hashirama w/ low diff.

3. Think about this.. Hahsirama can suppress tailed beat chakra, after which point they are basically just like summon level monsters. thats not a big feat beating a summon, Ten-ten can beat a summon..
Its like when the warden from blood prison put the seal on naruto and supressed his chakra, after that he could easily beat naruto, but if naruto removed the seal he would easily whooped the warden's @$$.. Point made..

 

[Owarij]

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madara said that the 5 kages were crap compared to hashirama and all of hashiramas techs were on an entirely different scale than theirs. he also said hashirama would be a better challenge than the 5 kage. the shinobi back in hashiramas era were much stronger than todays shinobi. they had to get stronger as it was a necessity. they lived in constant war.

urm, did i say hashirama wasn't stronger than the kages?
HE can defeat each and every one of them 1v1

5V1 he would get defeated..
Stop reiterating the same points :S

 

[0moi]

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Are you dense I asked you who has hiruzen ever beat excluding the orochimaru fight because that one was a tie at best. Known of you people can name one fight that your so called strongest hokage has been in or won case and point you lose baby.

lmao thats all you can go on is theres no one to credit Hiruzen of fighting smh, apparently Hiruzen fought enough people to gain such prestige, nameless or not. Let me ask you this, who killed Hashirama?.......... Exactly someone we don't even see in the series, a nameless shinobi, your statement is void. And apparently Hiruzen did something better that Hashirama, he actually lived to see old age. If there were no more shinobi of Madara & Hashirama's calibur how did he defeat Madara but get killed in his prime?..... I'll wait.... And please don't come at me with that "you're crying" bull this ain't no MTV cyberbullying special save that s'hit chief....

 

[Owarij]

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Let me ask you this, who killed Hashirama?.......... Exactly someone we don't even see in the series, a nameless shinobi, your statement is void.

LMAO, it's funny, this legendary "god" who can solo 5 kages, got defeated by fodder in a random battle
Pro

 

[TheSages456]

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urm, did i say hashirama wasn't stronger than the kages?
HE can defeat each and every one of them 1v1

5V1 he would get defeated..
Stop reiterating the same points :S

he can beat them 5vs1. madara heavily implied it when he compared there powers.