Hiruzen Sarutobi (in his Prime) vs Edo Madara.

[PrettyFlacko]

If you think Hiruzen can beat Edo Madara then I fear for your reading comprehension skills, hell, I fear for your reading skills altogether.

Really? reading skills? i obviously understand. Edo madara stated that hashirama is only able to defeat him, THE SAME HASHIRAMA that he fought at the final valley.

Its stated in the manga that hiruzen surpassed hashirama and tobirama in his prime.

therefore Hiruzen>Hashirama>edo madara. Facts are there, you're just in denial.

 

[PrettyFlacko]

Stop overrating Hiruzen he is nowhere near Edo Madara in power, the man treated the five kages like fodders.

they were fodders to begin with. i mean come on tsunade got her ass handed to her by kabuto in part 1.

 

[TobisPawn]

Hiruzen's power is an obvious retcon. Madara wins, unless Kishi decides to start hyping Hiruzen as the strongest again.

 

[KidGamer65]

Really? reading skills? i obviously understand. Edo madara stated that hashirama is only able to defeat him, THE SAME HASHIRAMA that he fought at the final valley.

Its stated in the manga that hiruzen surpassed hashirama and tobirama in his prime.

therefore Hiruzen>Hashirama>edo madara. Facts are there, you're just in denial.

See, this proves that your reading comprehension skills are poor, if you think Hiruzen is stronger than Edo Madara you should just stop reading this manga altogether cause you obviously can't even understand it correctly.

Also this is A>B>C logic so that's an immediate fail on your part.

 

[TheSages456]

why would you put hiruzen against madara? madara is 50 tiers above hiruzen.

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[PrettyFlacko]

See, this proves that your reading comprehension skills are poor, if you think Hiruzen is stronger than Edo Madara you should just stop reading this manga altogether cause you obviously can't even understand it correctly.

Also this is A>B>C logic so that's an immediate fail on your part.

how does that prove my reading comprehension skills are poor? please do explain?

i do understand actually, Its pretty basic if you ask me. first i read the part where its said that "Hiruzen in his prime surpassed 1st and 2nd hokages." Then, i came across edo madara who clearly stated that hashirama is the only one who can beat him.

How is that an immediate fail on my part when the facts are true?

trolling like you have nothing better to do? here's an idea wait for kingdom hearts 3 for 10 more years.

 

[PrettyFlacko]

why would you put hiruzen against madara? madara is 50 tiers above hiruzen.

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Madara fan boy i assume?

 

[KidGamer65]

how does that prove my reading comprehension skills are poor? please do explain?

i do understand actually, Its pretty basic if you ask me. first i read the part where its said that "Hiruzen in his prime surpassed 1st and 2nd hokages." Then, i came across edo madara who clearly stated that hashirama is the only one who can beat him.

How is that an immediate fail on my part when the facts are true?

trolling like you have nothing better to do? here's an idea wait for kingdom hearts 3 for 10 more years.

If you've been reading this manga correctly, you'd know that Hiruzen stands no chance against Madara. Hiruzen being the strongest Hokage is so obvious a retcon that you'd have to be foolish to miss it.

Databooks 1 and 2 said Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage but Databook 3 didn't..I leave you to ponder on that.

Plus you used A>B>C logic, which doesn't apply in Naruto so try again.

So, being able to read and understand the manga is trolling? The only trolling here is you making this thread and then justifying it with A>B>C logic of all things.

 

[nakumaru]

So MS Madara supposedly fought on equal terms with Hashirama for a long ass time, then gains EMS and Kyuubi then loses to Hashi? Shenanagans. Hashirama likely wrestled the Kyuubi from Madara's Control with Mito's help and used it to beat Madara's perfect Susanoo


Hiruzen can't win this. Even your ABC Logic fails as Edo Madara > Hashirama

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

I hope this is a troll thread...

 

[Edo Odin]

I hope this is a troll thread...

No it isn't. See, the fact is that Hiruzen was stated to be stronger than Hashirama. And Hashirama beat EMS Madara. So Hiruzen beats Edo Madara.


jk, but actually, I don't think it's meat to be a troll thread, but the amount of stupidity in it amazes me :|

 

[LegendaryAce]

hiruzen fanboys are worse than itachi and minato...even the bad naruto fanboys

lets make this simple

Edo madara >>>>>>>>>>> hiruzen
Edo madara >>>>>>>hashirama
EMS madara < hashirama
EMS madara > hiruzen
Hashirama > hiruzen

RDS could beat EDO madara
RDS could beat EMS madara
RDS could beat hashirama

 

[Exaar]

hiruzen fanboys are worse than itachi and minato...even the bad naruto fanboys

Same can be said about the clueless people that hate on him

 

[LegendaryAce]

Same can be said about the clueless people that hate on him

the fanboys make people hate on him

if thats directed on me though i dont hate hiruzen ive liked him since the episode he was introduced and like his personality