Hiruzen prime vs Nagato

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god of shinobi vs guy who technically has the ability to make up jutsu to suit his every desire. "yin release- time reverse: fetus no jutsu" ... dam that was easy enough... like a boss
 

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Oh god. I said someone would do this. I freakin said it.

Anyone who puts Hiruzen is straight up retarded.

This isn't a battle.

Only someone with another rinnegan can hope to beat a rinnegan user one on one.

What does Hiruzen have that nagato can't counter?

Nagato has at least 8 different summons that we have seen, he can absorb chakra, he can repel any attack, or bring in any person with shinra tensei to be stabbed (and they can't do anything about it), he can steal their soul by touching them, he can revive dead people, he can turn his skin into metal and shoot rockets, he can make a miniature moon to put anything in.

Hiruzen loses badly.

In case anyone noticed Nagato lost to a whole village, and then lost to 3 of the most haxxed people in the manga, only because of the Totsuka sword.

This isn't even close. Hiruzen has time to say "Oh shit the rinneg..." before he dies.
 

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Normal Hiruzen would quite obviously lose against any incarnation of Nagato — be it crippled Nagato, normal Nagato, wheelchair Nagato or even dead Nagato. Prime Hiruzen Sarutobi has no feats, either. Unfortunately, in VT, we tend to decide matches by feats (what we see from characters in the manga) rather than hype (what others say about certain characters) and threads containing a character with nigh zero feats are preferably need to be locked, along with threads which are blatantly unbalanced.​
 

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nagato medium difficulty
Nagato easy.

If Nagato is serious, he can take out any one person almost instantly. Shinra tensei + chakra stealing or soul stealing or chakra rod to the brain= instant death.

People don't understand that though because Nagato hasn't been in a fight where he has been trying to kill people.

His two fights were to capture Naruto (and Bee). He showed us just what he could do when he shinra tensei Pa frog and stabbed him, and did it earlier that fight against Kakashi? (or Chouza and Chouji)
 

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Oh god. I said someone would do this. I freakin said it.

Anyone who puts Hiruzen is straight up retarded.

This isn't a battle.

Only someone with another rinnegan can hope to beat a rinnegan user one on one.

What does Hiruzen have that nagato can't counter?

Nagato has at least 8 different summons that we have seen, he can absorb chakra, he can repel any attack, or bring in any person with shinra tensei to be stabbed (and they can't do anything about it), he can steal their soul by touching them, he can revive dead people, he can turn his skin into metal and shoot rockets, he can make a miniature moon to put anything in.

Hiruzen loses badly.

In case anyone noticed Nagato lost to a whole village, and then lost to 3 of the most haxxed people in the manga, only because of the Totsuka sword.

This isn't even close. Hiruzen has time to say "Oh shit the rinneg..." before he dies.
shinra tensei errr. you mean.. wait what is it call?....oh Banshō Ten'in!! yeah thats right get your facts str8..lolz
 

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Oh god. I said someone would do this. I freakin said it.

Anyone who puts Hiruzen is straight up retarded.

This isn't a battle.

Only someone with another rinnegan can hope to beat a rinnegan user one on one.

What does Hiruzen have that nagato can't counter?

Nagato has at least 8 different summons that we have seen, he can absorb chakra, he can repel any attack, or bring in any person with shinra tensei to be stabbed (and they can't do anything about it), he can steal their soul by touching them, he can revive dead people, he can turn his skin into metal and shoot rockets, he can make a miniature moon to put anything in.

Hiruzen loses badly.

In case anyone noticed Nagato lost to a whole village, and then lost to 3 of the most haxxed people in the manga, only because of the Totsuka sword.

This isn't even close. Hiruzen has time to say "Oh shit the rinneg..." before he dies.
+rep
 

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shinra tensei errr. you mean.. wait what is it call?....oh Banshō Ten'in!! yeah thats right get your facts str8..lolz
Does it matter what it is called?

Same jutsu, one pulls towards, the other pushes away.

It isn't like you can argue the situation though. If nagato were to do that Hiruzen wouldn't last a minute, unless Nagato was drawing it out for entertainment.
 

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OK GUYS SINCE SOME GUY DID THE SAME IMA PROVIDE YOU WIT SOME FACTS TOO LOLZ

Hiruzen
Known as the profesor and god of shinobi
Amazing pool of chakra (When he fought against Orochimaru, his chakra changed the air pressure and destroyed the tiles on which he was standing--The monkey King Enma and the ANBU noted that his chakra was "miserable" comparing to that of his youth
Earth and Fire release (amazing at combining jutsus together for a more stronger attack)
Can easily react to any situation
Keen Sense --Able to detect presance of shinobi even if blinded (when the 1st used some darkness jutsu and Hiruzen still found him even them)
All around-amazing user who excels in every aspect
Knows of every jutsu in Kohona (weather or not if he can perform it is debatable..but as shown he knew of the Reaper Death Seal...and was able to use it, so we can assume he can use other forbiden/ high level jutsus)
Nagato
6 nature transformations
Rinnengan (duh right? vision of peoples chakra, genjutsu barriers, any ninjutsu usage)
Animal Path
Deva Path
Asura Path
Human Path
Naraka Path
Preta Path
Outer Path -Nagato
Great Chakra Reserves
The fighters are both at their primse in their life. Hiruzen knows of all the paths and their abilities. Nagato has a good of an Intel as we do. Fight--In a Plain with a fair number of trees and hills on a normal sunny day.
 

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Does it matter what it is called?

Same jutsu, one pulls towards, the other pushes away.

It isn't like you can argue the situation though. If nagato were to do that Hiruzen wouldn't last a minute, unless Nagato was drawing it out for entertainment.
yes it does its not the same lolz

yeah true dat
 

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Listen up, Brights Minds.

Anyone who thinks hiruzen has a chance Quote my post and we will Discuss it, maybe a bit of flames in the air :zonder: (jk no flames)
 
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