Why do people honestly think Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama. Going by feats Hashirama has accomplished more by defeating Madara which is a much harder fight than taking on Tobirama and Hashirama in their weakened state. People always state the same evidence over and over how he had been said to be the greatest hokage of all but they don't notice that the evidence they provide is as old as 500 chapters when Kishi probably didn't plan 500 episodes into the future and also they fail to notice the present and how strong Kishi shows him to be. How much times have we seen Hiruzen. Yea that's right...