Hiruzen is too overated... and not better than Hashirama

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Why do people honestly think Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama. Going by feats Hashirama has accomplished more by defeating Madara which is a much harder fight than taking on Tobirama and Hashirama in their weakened state. People always state the same evidence over and over how he had been said to be the greatest hokage of all but they don't notice that the evidence they provide is as old as 500 chapters when Kishi probably didn't plan 500 episodes into the future and also they fail to notice the present and how strong Kishi shows him to be. How much times have we seen Hiruzen. Yea that's right...
 

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yes.... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to over rated.... the most over rated on the base actually :| ...


*waits for the fanboys to come in posting the manga page of iruka*
 

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Lay off the Third man, he was an amazing Kage, who cares which Kage was stronger.
 

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yes.... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to over rated.... the most over rated on the base actually :| ...


*waits for the fanboys to come in posting the manga page of iruka*
Exactly, they just post they same manga page over and over forgetting how stupid they look
 

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hiruzen was so strong people considered him the strongest.hashirama was so strong people considered his powers to be a fairy tale.his powers were so great people didnt even believe they were true,this is the only reason hiruzen was called the strongest.otherwise hashi wins
 

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It doesnt matter who is stronger .. But no he is stronger. Btw this thread has been posted literally a thousand times
 

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Lay off the Third man, he was an amazing Kage, who cares which Kage was stronger.

I am not saying he was a bad kage i'm sure he was great at prime but when people compare him to Hashirama without any logic than it is just silly
 

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It doesnt matter who is stronger .. But no he is stronger. Btw this thread has been posted literally a thousand times

Yet no-one understands...
 

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Feats? Or was was claimed in the Manga? I remember Madara talking and other characters saying the same. Both characters got hyped. Only feats were shown were the Third Hokage Hurizen. Edo Hashirama still counts, but his feats were countered due to Hurizen and Edo Tensei effects.
 

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Why do people honestly think Hiruzen is stronger than Hashirama. Going by feats Hashirama has accomplished more by defeating Madara which is a much harder fight than taking on Tobirama and Hashirama in their weakened state. People always state the same evidence over and over how he had been said to be the greatest hokage of all but they don't notice that the evidence they provide is as old as 500 chapters when Kishi probably didn't plan 500 episodes into the future and also they fail to notice the present and how strong Kishi shows him to be. How much times have we seen Hiruzen. Yea that's right...

Kabuto said Oro perfected the technique. Hashirama and Tobirama and Hiruzen as well seemed weak because it was 1999
 

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This thread is completely original......never made before........ever...........ever
 

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Its good that you posted this since i missed the other 50 threads like this that were posted 2 hours ago.
Thank you OP.
 

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The 3rd won survived two great wars and won them, but 1st and 2nd are second both died in other wars.
 

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Yet he lost to orochimaru. Big surprise of god of shinobi's
 

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Hiruzen's generation were FODDER & he so happened to be trained by the 1st & 2nd, so he was the only one to know their power. Nobody from Jiriya's generation down knew how strong the other powerful Shiniobi like Madara, Izuna, Hashirama, Tobirama, & the other powerful ninja of the Uzumaki & other clans,

Madara's generation had the strongest shinobi, the women had Sharingan, everyone was in constant war, so they would annihilate Hiruzens generation.

Hiruzen is regarded as the "strongest" or whatever by fodder Konoha ninja like Iruka, they've never seen Hashirama & the other powerful shinobi of the previous generation.

Being a Kage in Hashiramas & Madaras time is the only Kage that counts.
 
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