Hiruzen in his Prime The God Of Shinobis Vs Itachi Uchiha

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The Manga Said he was the strongest of all 5 kage's, Tobi also said he "pleaded with the 3th" which is why i said if he was strong he could have threaten.

Itachi is Epic and all, but i simple said earlier once's bringer of Darkness is used, Sharingon become's useless, because you said create a situation that was mine. Itachi may have been 13, but that's where his rep came from, him killing his clan. I don't see you keep saying he was young when in their world being considered a man is applied to you when you decided to be a Ninja, so age doesn't really matter. ( example--->Itachi being promoted to Anbu)
Yeah but Itachi wasn't anywhere near his "prime" when he was 13.

And you are still missing the point entirely, why would Itachi threaten someone who was nice and wanted to help him? Why would he do that? Hiruzen didn't want to kill Sasuke anyway.

If you don't get it after this I don't see how anyone can make you understand.
 

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Yeah but Itachi wasn't anywhere near his "prime" when he was 13.

And you are still missing the point entirely, why would Itachi threaten someone who was nice and wanted to help him? Why would he do that? Hiruzen didn't want to kill Sasuke anyway.

If you don't get it after this I don't see how anyone can make you understand.
I do see what your saying, it's just seeing as how the manga said he return to leaf to show the elders that he was still alive, i felt that if he could killed all those people no doubt he could have taken on the 3th, but since he was help and he sort of pleated to the 3th to me that shows who is stronger.


Yeah Hiruzen was a nice's person but i am sure you and i can agree that in naruto, to get what you want sometimes you have to threaten. The series is also base on japanse and Chinese customs if i am not mistaken, and in their custom one does not bow to someone who is not Superior than you.


let's say for a min those things apply only by ranks and no strength, why did he say if he face Jman they would both die, and clearly the 3th was stronger than all 3 of his students in his prime and i'll dear say even after his prime.


Hiruzen vs orochimaru one on one instead of him being force to fight his teachers Hiruzen would have still be alive, which is why i mention him being stronger than his students in my comments up top.
 

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I do see what your saying, it's just seeing as how the manga said he return to leaf to show the elders that he was still alive, i felt that if he could killed all those people no doubt he could have taken on the 3th, but since he was help and he sort of pleated to the 3th to me that shows who is stronger.


Yeah Hiruzen was a nice's person but i am sure you and i can agree that in naruto, to get what you want sometimes you have to threaten. The series is also base on japanse and Chinese customs if i am not mistaken, and in their custom one does not bow to someone who is not Superior than you.


let's say for a min those things apply only by ranks and no strength, why did he say if he face Jman they would both die, and clearly the 3th was stronger than all 3 of his students in his prime and i'll dear say even after his prime.


Hiruzen vs orochimaru one on one instead of him being force to fight his teachers Hiruzen would have still be alive, which is why i mention him being stronger than his students in my comments up top.
Dude Orochimaru could have killed him at any point in that fight. Hell he could have slit his throat before the fight even started. He was just messing around with Hiruzen. He even said it.

As to Itachi and Hiruzen, he bowed to him because he was the hokage and Itachi was a 13 year old kid asking him to protect Sasuke from Danzo.

He was asking a favor. That in no way reflects on strength. Naruto got on his knees to beg the raikage to forgive Sasuke, and Naruto was hella strong then.
 

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whoever is still debating in the thread is an utter retard, considering the fact that Hiruzen has absolutely ZERO FEATS!! And yet you people are sitting here talking about what he has and what he doesn't have. Some of you sound like complete fools trying your hardest to nitpik at his abilities when we havn't witnessed any of them!! im just highly surprised at your level of intellect.

just know that the Databok says that hiruzen is was the god of shinobi he tooks on the man's ****ing title for godsake!!

so yes hiruzen is easily comparable to the sage of the 6 paths. anyone who thinks otherwise is an unfathomable fool!

hiruzen is stronger than everyone in the manga including kabuto, rinnegan madara, and tobi (by hype ofcourse)

now im offcialy done with this retarded thread.
 

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whoever is still debating in the thread is an utter retard, considering the fact that Hiruzen has absolutely ZERO FEATS!! And yet you people are sitting here talking about what he has and what he doesn't have. Some of you sound like complete fools trying your hardest to nitpik at his abilities when we havn't witnessed any of them!! im just highly surprised at your level of intellect.

just know that the Databok says that hiruzen is was the god of shinobi he tooks on the man's ****ing title for godsake!!

so yes hiruzen is easily comparable to the sage of the 6 paths. anyone who thinks otherwise is an unfathomable fool!

hiruzen is stronger than everyone in the manga including kabuto, rinnegan madara, and tobi (by hype ofcourse)

now im offcialy done with this retarded thread.
Ok so wait. Let me get this straight. He is stronger than everyone else who ever existed in the manga because of hype?

And yet the day Hiruzen was made Hokage, he couldn't save his sensei?

If you go back to when Danzo was dying, in his flashback it says that there are 20 no name missing nin who were followers of kin and gin that were trying to kill the Konoha people.

Of those Konoha ninjas, there were two hokages and a man who was later almost a hokage.

They were all some of the strongest ninjas in Konoha at that time and were being chased by 20 men.

7 vs. 20, with 3 of those 7 being kage level and according to you Hiruzen was stronger than everyone that has ever existed. That should be at his prime because that was the day he was made hokage right? RIGHT? And he wasn't even the youngest hokage so we know that he is at least mid 20's.

It wasn't even 3 vs. 1 and every single one of them was scared of no name ninjas.

So **** you and your stupid hype. If Hiruzen was so awesome then he would have been able to fight along all those people and beat those 20 no name ninjas who were followers of Kin and Gin. It wasn't even Kin and Gin themselves.


What happened to your hype now?
 

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whoever is still debating in the thread is an utter retard, considering the fact that Hiruzen has absolutely ZERO FEATS!! And yet you people are sitting here talking about what he has and what he doesn't have. Some of you sound like complete fools trying your hardest to nitpik at his abilities when we havn't witnessed any of them!! im just highly surprised at your level of intellect.

just know that the Databok says that hiruzen is was the god of shinobi he tooks on the man's ****ing title for godsake!!

so yes hiruzen is easily comparable to the sage of the 6 paths. anyone who thinks otherwise is an unfathomable fool!

hiruzen is stronger than everyone in the manga including kabuto, rinnegan madara, and tobi (by hype ofcourse)


now im offcialy done with this retarded thread.
lol your crazy, you don't understand one thing about what the title stand for.
The title only meant for people in his era, the time he shine. You are a fool to even think that he is on the lvl of six path, can he create a world? again those pods he fought on the roof were 1/3 of what those hokage were truly capable of.

Ok so wait. Let me get this straight. He is stronger than everyone else who ever existed in the manga because of hype?

And yet the day Hiruzen was made Hokage, he couldn't save his sensei?

If you go back to when Danzo was dying, in his flashback it says that there are 20 no name missing nin who were followers of kin and gin that were trying to kill the Konoha people.

Of those Konoha ninjas, there were two hokages and a man who was later almost a hokage.

They were all some of the strongest ninjas in Konoha at that time and were being chased by 20 men.

7 vs. 20, with 3 of those 7 being kage level and according to you Hiruzen was stronger than everyone that has ever existed. That should be at his prime because that was the day he was made hokage right? RIGHT? And he wasn't even the youngest hokage so we know that he is at least mid 20's.

It wasn't even 3 vs. 1 and every single one of them was scared of no name ninjas.

So **** you and your stupid hype. If Hiruzen was so awesome then he would have been able to fight along all those people and beat those 20 no name ninjas who were followers of Kin and Gin. It wasn't even Kin and Gin themselves.


What happened to your hype now?
Don't stress yourself on this guy, just laugh it's funny. Make's me think if god to create a world and all living things, then can human create planets the sun the moon the sky? see how crazy that sounds.

I feel that they mean hiruzen prime raining the day he became hokage, he became epic nothing before that. And hiruzen did offer to stay behide and fight them all, but his mentor told him no.
 
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lol your crazy, you don't understand one thing about what the title stand for.
The title only meant for people in his era, the time he shine. You are a fool to even think that he is on the lvl of six path, can he create a world? again those pods he fought on the roof were 1/3 of what those hokage were truly capable of.



Don't stress yourself on this guy, just laugh it's funny. Make's me think if god to create a world and all living things, then can human create planets the sun the moon the sky? see how crazy that sounds.

I feel that they mean hiruzen prime raining the day he became hokage, he became epic nothing before that. And hiruzen did offer to stay behide and fight them all, but his mentor told him no.
Yeah but my point is that they thought that even all 7 of them couldn't beat just 20 people that should have been nowhere near their skill level. If you read it you will see that they are all scared.

So that was my point with that. I just hate it when people compare him to the SO6P.
 

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please stop saying hiruzen would win, cuz even with hype he cant. orochimaru who was playing around with him got pwned by itachi in less than a sec
 

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whoever is still debating in the thread is an utter retard, considering the fact that Hiruzen has absolutely ZERO FEATS!! And yet you people are sitting here talking about what he has and what he doesn't have. Some of you sound like complete fools trying your hardest to nitpik at his abilities when we havn't witnessed any of them!! im just highly surprised at your level of intellect.

just know that the Databok says that hiruzen is was the god of shinobi he tooks on the man's ****ing title for godsake!!

so yes hiruzen is easily comparable to the sage of the 6 paths. anyone who thinks otherwise is an unfathomable fool!

hiruzen is stronger than everyone in the manga including kabuto, rinnegan madara, and tobi (by hype ofcourse)

now im offcialy done with this retarded thread.
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God of Shinobi is a bit much. He may have been strong but the only god like character is the SO6P. I guess if I went by the Info you put I would say Sarutobi Sensei wins. But if we go by what we have seen in the Manga/anime then I would have to say Itachi takes it. Considering Itachi was stronger and more skilled then Lord Orochimaru at that time.
 
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