Hiruzen in his Prime The God Of Shinobis Vs Itachi Uchiha

[Gouki]

and what sort of relevance does this have towards the discussion that's going on in this thread?

but don't worry though, your precious itachi will get his as* handed to him by kabuto a few chapters from now.

i can't wait till that fight come. itachi will finally meet his match and his end. there's no way in heaven, hell, or in his dreams is he going to beat kabuto

i dunno itachi somehow beat death... or is he still edo... nvm he isnt edo nemore

 

[Uchiha seeker]

i dunno itachi somehow beat death... or is he still edo... nvm he isnt edo nemore

yes he is Edo so to beat him u hav to seal him

 

[Volcanikage]

DO you even know what we were talking about ? lol MS ability was never use in Sarutobi erra, only the first and second erra only the regular sharingon was. and i never said nothing about sharingon being unbeatable, you see troll if you would have read the earlier post instead of posting random sht you would have clearly known that i stated Itachi sharingon ability is no longer on Sasuke or Madara level. and that Hiruzen can beat Itachi, so read a thread before you random post.

Dude WHAT ARE YOU TALKING about MS and EMS hiruzen knows about both what about madara,shisui and itachi himself

 

[Uchiha seeker]

Dude WHAT ARE YOU TALKING about MS and EMS hiruzen knows about both what about madara,shisui and itachi himself

yes but he doesnt know about the abilities... maybe Madara's but not Itachi

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

that was meant for his techniques like how sasuke beat tysuk w/o using MS or how raikage could crack susanoo with brute force... and how ameterasu was avoided... in no way did i mean that itachi has gone undefeated, lol shino hasn't lost a fight yet either wuts ur point with that? just stop trying me lol :izuna:

Um Shino did lose a fight, he lost to Gaara's brother, that puppet guy, I can't remember his name at the moment but he lost to him.

And by the way has Shino fought Orochimaru? Or deidara? Or Nagato? Or Sasuke?

Nope. Oh and your points about the MS abilities being beaten is kind of a fail. Itachi's Susanoo has the yata mirror which would have made the raikage's attacks useless (because they are augmented by lightning), and that was not a fully formed Susanoo.

Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi, but he is literally the only person who could break it once they are in it, him and possibly Madara. Seriously no one else can so why even bring that up? If Hiruzen was caught in Tsukuyomi he would lose, there is no getting around that.

In fact if Hiruzen gets hit with any of Itachi's MS abilities he would lose instantly. So what would be Hiruzen's whole strategy when fighting?

Itachi is easily one of the fastest characters in the manga. Base mode he is likely only behind Minato in speed.

So tell me how would he do it?

Earlier this thread I made a post challenging someone to make a legit scenario in which Hiruzen would win, using non-KG abilities that Hiruzen would actually know.

Here I'll post it again

Rules:
1)Hiruzen has no KG, no hidden clan jutsus, nothing character unique or stuff that requires a specific thing (like FTG, or unique summons other than Enma, or raikiri, or Oro's jutsus that are all snake related and are because of experiments)

2) You have to use jutsu we have seen from people that are/were in Konoha when Hiruzen was.

3. Give Hiruzen as much chakra as Oro, or how about even Jiraiya (which is likely overselling Hiruzen but I'm going to give it to you)

So from these using any jutsu that Hiruzen could have possibly known, make a scenario in which Hiruzen outright beats Itachi. Not pulls a draw, but outright beats him.

Otherwise this thread is done because all we have from most of you people is meaningless hype that has no part in these vs threads.

It should be easy, we have seen a ton of jutsu from Konoha people. Go for it, stop giving me hype and make a legit scenario where Hiruzen can counter Itachi's abilities and pull off an outright win.

Because the very best I can see Hiruzen doing is a draw.

 

[Zato]

If you want to go by the Data books then it would seem that Itachi is more skilled then he is(Just going by the Data books). I have the English version of the Data Book 2 and I don't see where it mentions he had a counter to every ability of the Sharigan. They seem to be near equal matches if we are going by the Data books. Itachi is just said to be a lot faster.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

If you want to go by the Data books then it would seem that Itachi is more skilled then he is(Just going by the Data books). I have the English version of the Data Book 2 and I don't see where it mentions he had a counter to every ability of the Sharigan. They seem to be near equal matches if we are going by the Data books. Itachi is just said to be a lot faster.

Wait a minute you actually own the databook? And it doesn't say that?

Sweetness, he probably got his info off of Narutopedia, which can be edited by anyone.

 

[lord mizukage]

i dunno itachi somehow beat death... or is he still edo... nvm he isnt edo nemore

i see your'e trying to be funny but your not.

and lol edo or not, he's still gunna get his ass* handed to him by kabuto.

kabuto is stronger than tobi at the moment. i don't think anyone can beat him.

i'll be making a thread about his strength and overall character in the future. be sure to check it out.

 

[lord mizukage]

If you want to go by the Data books then it would seem that Itachi is more skilled then he is(Just going by the Data books). I have the English version of the Data Book 2 and I don't see where it mentions he had a counter to every ability of the Sharigan. They seem to be near equal matches if we are going by the Data books. Itachi is just said to be a lot faster.

i wouldn't make such a thing up. you need to look at that databook again because im pretty sure it said that hiruzen had a counter to leaf village every technique, including sharingan and m-sharingan technique when i had it.

and @the huge itachi-tard who said i got my info from narutopedia.

i can't fathom myself paraphrasing quotes from narutopedia. so don't make nonsensical assertions. i find it ludicrous to do such an unintelligible thing. all my evidence come directly from the databook and manga.

but anyways, like i said, i did not make that up about hiruzen. i know i read it in the databoook that he had a counter for every sharingan and ms shaingan technique.

 

[Hmph]

Hiruzen having a counter to MS is old news. Why one earth are the Itachi fans doubting this all of a sudden? lmao.

This fight is based on hype. Who has the better hype? Hiruzen, simple as that.

 

[Volcanikage]

Um Shino did lose a fight, he lost to Gaara's brother, that puppet guy, I can't remember his name at the moment but he lost to him.

And by the way has Shino fought Orochimaru? Or deidara? Or Nagato? Or Sasuke?

Nope. Oh and your points about the MS abilities being beaten is kind of a fail. Itachi's Susanoo has the yata mirror which would have made the raikage's attacks useless (because they are augmented by lightning), and that was not a fully formed Susanoo.

Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi, but he is literally the only person who could break it once they are in it, him and possibly Madara. Seriously no one else can so why even bring that up? If Hiruzen was caught in Tsukuyomi he would lose, there is no getting around that.

In fact if Hiruzen gets hit with any of Itachi's MS abilities he would lose instantly. So what would be Hiruzen's whole strategy when fighting?

Itachi is easily one of the fastest characters in the manga. Base mode he is likely only behind Minato in speed.

So tell me how would he do it?

Earlier this thread I made a post challenging someone to make a legit scenario in which Hiruzen would win, using non-KG abilities that Hiruzen would actually know.

Here I'll post it again

Rules:
1)Hiruzen has no KG, no hidden clan jutsus, nothing character unique or stuff that requires a specific thing (like FTG, or unique summons other than Enma, or raikiri, or Oro's jutsus that are all snake related and are because of experiments)

2) You have to use jutsu we have seen from people that are/were in Konoha when Hiruzen was.

3. Give Hiruzen as much chakra as Oro, or how about even Jiraiya (which is likely overselling Hiruzen but I'm going to give it to you)

So from these using any jutsu that Hiruzen could have possibly known, make a scenario in which Hiruzen outright beats Itachi. Not pulls a draw, but outright beats him.

Otherwise this thread is done because all we have from most of you people is meaningless hype that has no part in these vs threads.

It should be easy, we have seen a ton of jutsu from Konoha people. Go for it, stop giving me hype and make a legit scenario where Hiruzen can counter Itachi's abilities and pull off an outright win.

Because the very best I can see Hiruzen doing is a draw.

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Dude Hypes??? I already made a scenario where Itachi lose ill remake it Itachi and Hiruzen both apart like 1/2 a mile Itachi uses Fire ball jutsu

Hiruzen simple dodge it he throws kunai so does Itachi to stop them Hirusend uses shadow clone and they all use dragon bullet combination Itachi goes susanoo he cant waste time he get tired fast because of illness he try to get him under genjutsu (not tsukoyomi) because hiruzen fight like guy and doesnt look at the eye so itachi try other finger jutsu he easy get out like he did to 2 hokage genjutsu

Itach uses amaterasu to kill clone and stop him he uses evade it (he was consider strongest kage that mean his fast enough to keep up with raikage speed) he dodge it since saw it coming Itachi throw yama thing he throw

Hiruzen uses twice mud wall it destroy them hiruzen it hurt and itachi is getting weaker cuz of susanoo use and illness need to finish it fast

Hiruzen use Earth_Release_Swamp_of_the_Underworld he stands like is water Hiruzen then uses to combine fire style a shot dragon lava bullet itachi is force to use yata mirror after that hiruzen uses earth release earth flow river itachi fall into the mud susanoo desapeairs try to finish him with shuriken shadow clone jutsu

Itachi does susanoo again, so hiruzen is force to use death reaper seal he can make go farther and doesnt need to get close to itachi

Itachi cant see it because only when it touch you can you see it so once it touch all jutsu and deactivated a IS GAME OVER FOR ITACHI!

 

[Uchiha seeker]

if Hiruzen doesnt look at Itachi how does he know where itachi is Itachi could be drinking something in a shop.... 300 miles away from him and no just cause he was the strongest Kage doesnt mean he is fast enough to catch up with the Raikage

 

[Volcanikage]

if Hiruzen doesnt look at Itachi how does he know where itachi is Itachi could be drinking something in a shop.... 300 miles away from him and no just cause he was the strongest Kage doesnt mean he is fast enough to catch up with the Raikage

Well he doesnt look at his eye is gai sensei ways of fighting any sharigan user he looks at his feet and you should no when you look at something straight you can see other thing sorrounding them notonly the thing your focusing too

he aint that fast well it hasnt being stated who know but he can keep with it at old age raikage is a straight foward fighter so easy to evade but because his fast it makes it hard

 

[Uchiha seeker]

wait if u dont look at the eye it would be more easy to get hit with amaterasu and Gai never actually fought Itachi since Kisame jumped in so we dont know wat would have happened

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

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Dude Hypes??? I already made a scenario where Itachi lose ill remake it Itachi and Hiruzen both apart like 1/2 a mile Itachi uses Fire ball jutsu

Hiruzen simple dodge it he throws kunai so does Itachi to stop them Hirusend uses shadow clone and they all use dragon bullet combination Itachi goes susanoo he cant waste time he get tired fast because of illness he try to get him under genjutsu (not tsukoyomi) because hiruzen fight like guy and doesnt look at the eye so itachi try other finger jutsu he easy get out like he did to 2 hokage genjutsu

Itach uses amaterasu to kill clone and stop him he uses evade it (he was consider strongest kage that mean his fast enough to keep up with raikage speed) he dodge it since saw it coming Itachi throw yama thing he throw

Hiruzen uses twice mud wall it destroy them hiruzen it hurt and itachi is getting weaker cuz of susanoo use and illness need to finish it fast

Hiruzen use Earth_Release_Swamp_of_the_Underworld he stands like is water Hiruzen then uses to combine fire style a shot dragon lava bullet itachi is force to use yata mirror after that hiruzen uses earth release earth flow river itachi fall into the mud susanoo desapeairs try to finish him with shuriken shadow clone jutsu

Itachi does susanoo again, so hiruzen is force to use death reaper seal he can make go farther and doesnt need to get close to itachi

Itachi cant see it because only when it touch you can you see it so once it touch all jutsu and deactivated a IS GAME OVER FOR ITACHI!

Hmm your scenario has quite a few things wrong with it.
Susanoo disappears when Itachi falls in the mud. Why didn't anyone else think of that? Just make it really slippery, Susanoo will just disappear! Not happening.

Hiruzen has not gotten out of any genjutsu thus far in the manga. In case you didn't notice the bringer of darkness genjutsu only disappeared when Hashirama's soul was taken by the Death reaper, Hiruzen didn't break it.

Itachi would need Amaterasu to kill a clone? Whoo that is a pretty tough clone. Considering that clones dissipate when hit once.

Hiruzen was as fast as the raikage? Bullshit. You have had two outright lies and now are exaggerating a ton. There is no way Hiruzen is faster than either the third or 4th raikages. Not even close.

Hiruzen stands on the swamp of the underworld like it is water? Huh so apparently you can do that nowadays. Tough break kid, you can't, it sucks things into it. And if Hiruzen can stand on mud, so can Itachi, so how would that help anyone?

And lastly even with all of those things that either can't happen, or aren't true, your scenario's finishing move ends with Hiruzen using the death reaper seal, which ends in a draw for them as they both die.

Try again. Maybe actually put in a counter for genjutsu, or Enma.

 

[lord mizukage]

Um Shino did lose a fight, he lost to Gaara's brother, that puppet guy, I can't remember his name at the moment but he lost to him.

And by the way has Shino fought Orochimaru? Or deidara? Or Nagato? Or Sasuke?

Nope. Oh and your points about the MS abilities being beaten is kind of a fail. Itachi's Susanoo has the yata mirror which would have made the raikage's attacks useless (because they are augmented by lightning), and that was not a fully formed Susanoo.

Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi, but he is literally the only person who could break it once they are in it, him and possibly Madara. Seriously no one else can so why even bring that up? If Hiruzen was caught in Tsukuyomi he would lose, there is no getting around that.

In fact if Hiruzen gets hit with any of Itachi's MS abilities he would lose instantly. So what would be Hiruzen's whole strategy when fighting?

Itachi is easily one of the fastest characters in the manga. Base mode he is likely only behind Minato in speed.

So tell me how would he do it?

Earlier this thread I made a post challenging someone to make a legit scenario in which Hiruzen would win, using non-KG abilities that Hiruzen would actually know.

Here I'll post it again

Rules:
1)Hiruzen has no KG, no hidden clan jutsus, nothing character unique or stuff that requires a specific thing (like FTG, or unique summons other than Enma, or raikiri, or Oro's jutsus that are all snake related and are because of experiments)

2) You have to use jutsu we have seen from people that are/were in Konoha when Hiruzen was.

3. Give Hiruzen as much chakra as Oro, or how about even Jiraiya (which is likely overselling Hiruzen but I'm going to give it to you)

So from these using any jutsu that Hiruzen could have possibly known, make a scenario in which Hiruzen outright beats Itachi. Not pulls a draw, but outright beats him.

Otherwise this thread is done because all we have from most of you people is meaningless hype that has no part in these vs threads.

It should be easy, we have seen a ton of jutsu from Konoha people. Go for it, stop giving me hype and make a legit scenario where Hiruzen can counter Itachi's abilities and pull off an outright win.

Because the very best I can see Hiruzen doing is a draw.

lmaaaaooooooooooooo oh wow!!!! this is the most ludicrous and biased post from an itachi-tard ever!

this guy actually thinks itachi's speed is on tier with minato's. lmaoo i just can't with these itachi-nerds!

and he claims that itachi's ms techniques can 1 shot a man who hailed the same title as the sage of the 6 paths, and hailed as the strongest of the 5 kage even in his senior years.

and lmaaaaoooooooooo he even wants us to make up a scenario using random techniques from konoha to give to hiruzen against to place him in a match-up against itachi. why would anyone do something so stupid like that?

lol like i said. people will say the most absurd and nonsensical when it comes to their biased favoritism for their favorite character. there's no way to defeat an itachi-tard in a debate. they just wont accept inferiority. not even if their life is on the line.

lol im done with this thread. itachi-nerds strike again!

 

[Uchiha seeker]

actually Itachi is pretty fast and he can 1hit move Hiruzen

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

actually Itachi is pretty fast and he can 1hit move Hiruzen

Dude don't worry about him. Did you see, he laughed when I asked him to make a scenario where Hiruzen would win. Like it was just absurd to ask that.

He can't accept facts. Fact numero uno - base speed Itachi is faster than everyone else we have seen in base speed. (NOT counting gates or raiton armor or tailed beast modes)

Fact number 2. If you get hit with an of Itachi's MS abilities you are dead. Again he laughed but it is true. But apparently this kid thinks Hiruzen has a counter for the Totsuka sword, Amaterasu, and Tsukuyomi.

I think this kid is some semi-retarded kid just trying to get his kicks and giggles by trolling us.

 

[Uchiha seeker]

Dude don't worry about him. Did you see, he laughed when I asked him to make a scenario where Hiruzen would win. Like it was just absurd to ask that.

He can't accept facts. Fact numero uno - base speed Itachi is faster than everyone else we have seen in base speed. (NOT counting gates or raiton armor or tailed beast modes)

Fact number 2. If you get hit with an of Itachi's MS abilities you are dead. Again he laughed but it is true. But apparently this kid thinks Hiruzen has a counter for the Totsuka sword, Amaterasu, and Tsukuyomi.

I think this kid is some semi-retarded kid just trying to get his kicks and giggles by trolling us.

yah ur right all he did was laugh anyway im outta here gonna go sleep

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

yah ur right all he did was laugh anyway im outta here gonna go sleep

Yeah I am out as well. Hopefully when I get back tomorrow there will be some people worth debating against, because tonight they have only insulted me because they can't come up with a way for Hiruzen to win.