Hiruzen & Danzo vs 3rd raikage

[Unorthodox]

Distance - 70m
Info - Manga
location - Sasuke vs danzo
Conditions - Hiruzen is edo but can die and run out of chakra Danzo is healthy.They start with Baku out.
Restrictions - RDS,KA,

I think the old men wins because hiruzen can make 5 clones all using fuuton adding with danzo fuuton with baku who cut open v3 susanoo's back definitely gets rid of the ration shroud then Danzo black seal (Dont know what its called) kills himself but he escapes with izanagi.

 

[Lariatoo]

Hiruzen soloes.

 

[Zexion~]

Hiruzen wins via the manga.

 

[Beans2]

Third Raikage wins. Hiruzen's fuuton enhanced by Baku is still weaker than FRS, and they are never going to be able to set up this combination against a much faster opponent.

 

[LuckyMan]

Third Raikage wins. Hiruzen's fuuton enhanced by Baku is still weaker than FRS, and they are never going to be able to set up this combination against a much faster opponent.

Based on what?

 

[Beans2]

Based on what?

Hiruzen's fuuton is a blast, not a cutting attack. Raikage can tank explosive attacks much better than cutting attacks (refer to how Wind Cast Net cut him.) I also don't see Hiruzen's fuuton being much stronger than Danzo's fuuton since its best feat is stalemating SZ's wind blast. Based on these factors I think Raikage would tank Baku enhanced Hiruzen fuuton with more ease than he would tank Baku enhanced Danzo fuuton which is a cutting type.

Raikage would also tank Danzo's Baku-enhanced fuuton given that it could barely cut through V3 Susanoo and Raikage is about as durable as V4 Susanoo.

 

[Unorthodox]

Hiruzen's fuuton is a blast, not a cutting attack. Raikage can tank explosive attacks much better than cutting attacks (refer to how Wind Cast Net cut him.) I also don't see Hiruzen's fuuton being much stronger than Danzo's fuuton since its best feat is stalemating SZ's wind blast. Based on these factors I think Raikage would tank Baku enhanced Hiruzen fuuton with more ease than he would tank Baku enhanced Danzo fuuton which is a cutting type.

Raikage would also tank Danzo's Baku-enhanced fuuton given that it could barely cut through V3 Susanoo and Raikage is about as durable as V4 Susanoo.

5 giant fuuton plus danzo's slicing fuuton and baku it surely gets passed his armor and can the 3rd tank danzo seal explosion

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[Nattana]

Dafuq is this? Danzo solos.

 

[LuckyMan]

Hiruzen's fuuton is a blast, not a cutting attack. Raikage can tank explosive attacks much better than cutting attacks (refer to how Wind Cast Net cut him.) I also don't see Hiruzen's fuuton being much stronger than Danzo's fuuton since its best feat is stalemating SZ's wind blast. Based on these factors I think Raikage would tank Baku enhanced Hiruzen fuuton with more ease than he would tank Baku enhanced Danzo fuuton which is a cutting type.

Raikage would also tank Danzo's Baku-enhanced fuuton given that it could barely cut through V3 Susanoo and Raikage is about as durable as V4 Susanoo.

His Futon is a cutting attack and its more concentrated because its in a beam like form. Offensive Futon moves are made by making the chakra as sharp and thin as possible to slash the opponent up. Your basically saying Hiruzens Futon is nothing but brute force pushing you back, which makes no sense.

But Guruguru attacks werent weak. None of the Gokage could counter them, in fact, he was stomping them. I think if Baku removes Raiton Armor with its suction, Ay III is dying to Hiruzens attack, certainly if Danzo attacks too.

 

[KidGamer65]

The old men win mid diff.

 

[EZQ]

The old hags win. Their fuuton combination wouldn't hurt the raikage's body, but it would destroy the lightining shroud. Without it, Danzo just needs to touch him to make the restraining black seal. Of course, raikage can break from it via using a lot of chakra, but they just need a second of restraining so they can cast Danzo's genjutsu.

 

[Beans2]

5 giant fuuton plus danzo's slicing fuuton and baku it surely gets passed his armor and can the 3rd tank danzo seal explosion

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Give me proof. And I don't think it can since its best feat is destroying a bridge.

His Futon is a cutting attack and its more concentrated because its in a beam like form. Offensive Futon moves are made by making the chakra as sharp and thin as possible to slash the opponent up. Your basically saying Hiruzens Futon is nothing but brute force pushing you back, which makes no sense.

Not all offensive fuuton moves are like that. Based on its

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, Hiruzen's fuuton is just concentrated wind pressure similar to

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. Doesn't look like a cutting or piercing attack to me, unlike Danzo's fuuton. And it's common sense that it's easier to cut up something than to blast it off (refer to how Cerberus can sink its teeth into Gamaken's leg, but Gamabunta can tank Shukaku's wind bullet which is stronger than Cerberus teeth. And I don't think Bunta and Gamaken are that far apart in durability.

But Guruguru attacks werent weak. None of the Gokage could counter them, in fact, he was stomping them. I think if Baku removes Raiton Armor with its suction, Ay III is dying to Hiruzens attack, certainly if Danzo attacks too.

Gokage were out of chakra which is why they couldn't counter them. What makes you think Baku suction alone will remove raiton shroud when it took an attack like Rasenshuriken to do that? Why can't Ay tank Hiruzen's attack even without armour? How are Hiruzen and Danzo going to set up a complicated attack plan involving five shadow clones, various fuutons and Baku against a much faster opponent who only needs to kill either Baku or Hiruzen to stop that plan? How is Hiruzen himself going to avoid getting sucked up by Baku?

 

[Nattana]

Third Raikage wins.

Counter to Cursed Seal + Genjutsu please.

 

[Beans2]

Counter to Cursed Seal + Genjutsu please.

He overpowers the seal.

He breaks out of the genjutsu.

 

[EZQ]

He overpowers the seal.

He breaks out of the genjutsu.

I agree that he overpowers the seal, but it would restrain him at least for a second, allowing the team to cast Danzo's genjutsu, which i personally don't think he'd break free from, since its shisui's MS enhaced with hashirama's cells.

 

[LuckyMan]

Give me proof. And I don't think it can since its best feat is destroying a bridge.



Not all offensive fuuton moves are like that. Based on its

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, Hiruzen's fuuton is just concentrated wind pressure similar to

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. Doesn't look like a cutting or piercing attack to me, unlike Danzo's fuuton. And it's common sense that it's easier to cut up something than to blast it off (refer to how Cerberus can sink its teeth into Gamaken's leg, but Gamabunta can tank Shukaku's wind bullet which is stronger than Cerberus teeth. And I don't think Bunta and Gamaken are that far apart in durability.



Gokage were out of chakra which is why they couldn't counter them. What makes you think Baku suction alone will remove raiton shroud when it took an attack like Rasenshuriken to do that? Why can't Ay tank Hiruzen's attack even without armour? How are Hiruzen and Danzo going to set up a complicated attack plan involving five shadow clones, various fuutons and Baku against a much faster opponent who only needs to kill either Baku or Hiruzen to stop that plan? How is Hiruzen himself going to avoid getting sucked up by Baku?

You need some glasses then. Hiruzens Futon is in a beam. Kakuzus Futon starts as a small sphere and on impact it expands. How is the appearnce at all similar to Kakuzus; oh wait, it isn't. A beam has more penetrating power than a ball. Kakuzus move explodes and its energy spreads out over the radius of the blast while Hiruzens is more focused, all hitting one area. Like I just told Beans, Futon works by making chakra as thin and sharp as possible to slash whatever up. Even Kakuzus futon slashes/cuts but its less damage because the energy spreads out. If their Futons dont cut and slash then whats doing the damage? The trees and debris hitting them caused by the Futon? Right.

Because Futon is a natural insulator for Raiton natrual and constant stream over him real remove it.

Because Temaris attack cut him without armor and Hiruzens is out of her league. Edos have weaker bodies, so because an alive Ay III would be more durable, Hiruzens Futon would do the same damage Temari did to him, which isnt much, but with 3 other clones plus Danzo using Futon, his ass is finished.

Because his speed is irrelevant infront of clone feints and Izanagi. If he runs into Baku to kill it he dies because hes running into all their attacks.

The same way Danzo wasnt sucked up.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Beans getting destroyed trying to wank the 3rd Raikage durability LMAO.​

 

[super yang]

danzo solos; hiruzen solos

 

[Unorthodox]

Give me proof. And I don't think it can since its best feat is destroying a bridge.

Umm but did Obito warn Sasuke to get back im pretty sure if Susanoo could tank it Obito would not have said something

 

[KidGamer65]

^ It's a sealing jutsu. Tanking has nothing to do with it. If Raikage is caught in the blast he's sealed inside Danzo's corpse.