Hiruzen and Kakuzu

[chopstickchakra]

Seems another thing needs to be set straight for the majority of the base.

Kakuzu has never shown suiton in the manga. His suiton was an anime only feat despite what may be implied or assumed he has never shown suiton and now he's dead so he never will. Kakuzu=4 chakra natures shown Hiruzen = 5.

 

[-immortal-]

what makes you strong using 5 elements?

 

[Sendai Aka No Ou]

He still has all five.

Doesn't make a monkey's difference (pardon the pun.) Kakuzu stands no chance.

 

[Sir Blades]

Seems another thing needs to be set straight for the majority of the base.

Kakuzu has never shown suiton in the manga. His suiton was an anime only feat despite what may be implied or assumed he has never shown suiton and now he's dead so he never will. Kakuzu=4 chakra natures shown Hiruzen = 5.

He actually has 6 elements, Kage bushing and the Hokage wall is a Yin Yang transformation.

 

[chopstickchakra]

He still has all five.

Doesn't make a monkey's difference (pardon the pun.) Kakuzu stands no chance.

You can assume and guess all you want based on whatever info you choose but the simple fact remains Kakuzu with all 5 chakra natures can never be proven to be a fact.

 

[Urda]

He actually has 6 elements, Kage bushing and the Hokage wall is a Yin Yang transformation.

They are only five elements. Also, they are Yang. (-_-)

To the topic, Kakazu mastery over the five elements were Kinjutsu related while Hurizens were natural manipulation.

 

[slaton02]

Hiruzen's fanbase has reached Sasuke/Itachi's level omg it's getting worst and worst.

 

[Sir Blades]

They are only five elements. Also, they are Yang. (-_-)

Still an ADVANCED element transformation, Yang is still an element transformation. So its still 6 no matter how you look at it

 

[Sendai Aka No Ou]

You can assume and guess all you want based on whatever info you choose but the simple fact remains Kakuzu with all 5 chakra natures can never be proven to be a fact.

Lol Kakashi confirmed it.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Hiruzen's fanbase has reached Sasuke/Itachi's level omg it's getting worst and worst.

worse and worse not worst, also just because I clarify that Kakuzu hasn't actually shown all 5 natures in the manga, how does that make me a Hiruzen fan? Try thinking before you type.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Still an ADVANCED element transformation, Yang is still an element transformation. So its still 6 no matter how you look at it

There's far more six. You have the basic five and the elemental combinations. Not too sure if you should count Yin-Yang.