Hiruzen and Kakashi

Rikudou Tobi

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I don't see a huge Hokage difference between Prime Hiruzen and Hokage Kakashi.
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>All five basic elements
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>No special kekkai genkai
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>All five basic
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>Lost his sharingan and no special kekkai genkai either.

The only difference between them is that Hiruzen has the biggest hype out of all the hokages and Kakashi got the least, and yes Tsunade was introduced with a bigger hype than Kakashi. I think if Prime Hiruzen were to fight Kakashi it would end in a draw if not Kakashi winning due to his tactic skills being praised by the god of shinobis Hagormoo.
 

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I don't see a different either.

They where both useless and patethic hokage's
 

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agreed in no difference... both fodder below m'Lord...

Kishi even said He was the true fire shadow and He rlly was
 

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You think prime hiruzen = Sharinganless kakashi.....

Sharingan kakashi shat himself at the mere sight of Orochimaru, Yet old and much weaker hiruzen almost killed him and was stated to be the strongest of the 5 kage which inlucded the likes of 4th raikage and onoki.

How on earth can you think there isn't a huge difference when even an old and much weaker hiruzen was portrayed as stronger than Pre-Ms sharingan kakashi.
 

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I like them both. But it's not brought up in the manga or anime for some reason so much as just say he came before Naruto. Give him some credit at least Kishi.
 

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I like Sarutobi! But he was way too relaxed/naive to be hokage. (Danzo tried to assassinate him an he didn't do anything, he couldn't stop the Uchiha massacre because of Danzo, an he failed in protect Sasuke from threats in and out of the village as promised to Godtachi) He did worst in a overall perspective than Tsunade who only dealt with Pein. Both her an Saru got the village demolished under their watch. But i still like his jibb!

Hatake wasn't kage for long an we all ready know of him before he became kage. Using the excuse that he was featless appose to others is a good sign because kage's shouldn't be at battle, he had hella shinobi at his disposal. (He was basically a piece time kage)
 

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Both these nigguhs got a rouge student that tried to destroy Konoha.
 

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Hiruzen has Emma/diamond staff and can also use all 5 elements at the same time. It'd be a tough fight but I give the win to Hiruzen.
 

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Both these nigguhs got a rouge student that tried to destroy Konoha.

Lol I forgot that one
Hiruzen has Emma/diamond staff and can also use all 5 elements at the same time. It'd be a tough fight but I give the win to Hiruzen.
Kakashi has all five elements and those dog summonings ti immobilize people too.
I like Sarutobi! But he was way too relaxed/naive to be hokage. (Danzo tried to assassinate him an he didn't do anything, he couldn't stop the Uchiha massacre because of Danzo, an he failed in protect Sasuke from threats in and out of the village as promised to Godtachi) He did worst in a overall perspective than Tsunade who only dealt with Pein. Both her an Saru got the village demolished under their watch. But i still like his jibb!

Hatake wasn't kage for long an we all ready know of him before he became kage. Using the excuse that he was featless appose to others is a good sign because kage's shouldn't be at battle, he had hella shinobi at his disposal. (He was basically a piece time kage)
I don't have anything against either but Kakashi was hokage when naruto was around 18 or 19 (Last) till 30 (Hokage naruto). He was Hokage for a long time but like Hiruzen only had little to no problems during his reign.
You think prime hiruzen = Sharinganless kakashi.....

Sharingan kakashi shat himself at the mere sight of Orochimaru, Yet old and much weaker hiruzen almost killed him and was stated to be the strongest of the 5 kage which inlucded the likes of 4th raikage and onoki.

How on earth can you think there isn't a huge difference when even an old and much weaker hiruzen was portrayed as stronger than Pre-Ms sharingan kakashi.
Orochimaru was still stronger than Hiruzen. Hiruzen being fearless against towards his student is like Pre war arc kakashi being fearless against MS Sasuke. Obviously the student is way stronger, but the familiarity is still there. They're basically the same, look at the feats.
I like them both. But it's not brought up in the manga or anime for some reason so much as just say he came before Naruto. Give him some credit at least Kishi.
Hiruzen or Kakashi?
 
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I don't see a different either.

They where both useless and patethic hokage's

On the contrary, there was no evidence that any uproar or dwindling of relations happened during Kakashi's era - peace was maintained. Things went sweet as a nut; what a good Hokage is made of.

OT: Kakashi has a better, and more versatile arsenal. Hiruzen's only shown one high level Katon and one high level Doton, his other element showings were basic primitive forms where Kakashi has high level Raiton, Doton, Suiton + Rasengan and the infamous Sennen Goroshi.
 

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I feel like hiruzen never did anything in regards of hokage, like he pretty much could of soloed everyone before shippuden, monkey king enma solos all of kakashis except kamui, but if he had it in the war why not use it on itachi could of sniped his ads but kishi ruined hiruzens hype :/ old fart who could off surpassed sarutobi and hashi
 

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blame hiruzen.

he ordered itachi to slaughter the clan and he failed to kill orochimaru twice.

No danzo hace him a choice hiruzen, knew about it after he killed everyone off, he wanted to talk to the clan first which might have worked
 
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