Hirashin feats are actually gargabe

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Ah word,I thought I saw you saying teen obito could of used fire jutsus and whatnot, if not then my mistake. Your right it wasn't complete, it was just enough for him to land a hit, although like I said, analyzing mid battle isn't a cake walk. I will agree that adult obito shouldn't have much of a problem with him though considering they've already squared off

I said he didn't have those in his arsenal and he lacked experience. So, Adult Obito is different.

So bro, what would Sasuke do if an explosive tag ends up on the cloth of his new born son?

He throws the cloth away and uses body flicker?
 
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But at that time he was using Obito's body so Madara should have sensed it coming up behind him. How do you explain that?

But that close? the moment Zetsu touched him he should have been able to react if his reaction and sensing was really quantifiabe

Well I did say besides being used on Fodder it's really garbage. FTG didn't save the aliance, Kurama's chakra did.

JJ Madara and 1RSM Madara also reacted to it and 1RSM Madara did it with his base reaction speed.

Sensing Ameno and being able to react are two different things. Naruto faced the same fate as Madara did when Sasuke cut him in half.

The difference between FTG and Ameno is that with Ameno you can attack DURING Ameno taking place while you can't with FTG plus You don't need Markings and it can make portals. It's better in everyway actually

Listen obviously Ameno is better, never said it wasnt. But FTG isnt garbage only a fool would say that.

Ftg did save the alliance. Kurama connected everyone yes but that doesnt mean it overshadows who ACTUALLY moved them to safety.

You just named 3 Madaras the ONLY one to react to FTG after seeing it a milliom times from Tobirama in his warring days and having Hashiramas perfect Sage Mode which is onown to react to lightning fast speeds.

Naruto reacted to Ameno, Kaguya reacted to it, Momo reacted to it and they are ALL top tier. Ameno failed MANY times b4. Come on man get off your high horse.

MS users are top tier opponents and FTG defeated 2 of them. Izuna, and Obito. Not to mention it was VITAL in combat aginst the juubi and Juubito.

FTG is not garbage and you are the worst hator on this base. Stop making bash threads its all you ever do. Find a new hobby and start making sensible threads please.
 

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I am sure the barrier was down as Obito took care of the ninjas.

A sealed barrier, forget the ninjas, its a sealed cave 0.0 Body flicker doesn't allow you to get into a sealed cave or exit a sealed cave
 

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So bro, what would Sasuke do if an explosive tag ends up on the cloth of his new born son?
He could do the same thing Minato did with Shunshin or he could just swap the baby out of the cloth. Couldn't you think of a substantial example? :lol
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Ah thanks for the clarification
how are they biased? I simply listed some things done with ftg lol and anyhow, why compare it to the other s/t jutsus we've seen? Iirc it's the only learnable one, it's a jutsu anyone can attempt to learn. Kamui and ameno, and kaguyas (the only other 3 I could think of) are all specific to one person and pretty haxx. Not that there's anything wrong with that, just pointing it out
Its biased because you're simply giving a Space-Time ninjutsu praise for being itself. We expect certain things from S/T Ninjutus'...gloating about Obito saving Sasuke with Kamui for example is a feat but that's garbage because it's nothing spectacular.
 

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A sealed barrier, forget the ninjas, its a sealed cave 0.0 Body flicker doesn't allow you to get into a sealed cave or exit a sealed cave

CS2 or a simple ribcage Susano'o does the trick?
 

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He could do the same thing Minato did with Shunshin or he could just swap the baby out of the cloth. Couldn't you think of a substantial example? :lol

Ah thanks for the clarification

Its biased because you're simply giving a Space-Time ninjutsu praise for being itself. We expect certain things from S/T Ninjutus'...gloating about Obito saving Sasuke with Kamui for example is a feat but that's garbage because it's nothing spectacular.

Ok so then what's not a garbage feat from an s/t in your perspective then?
 

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FTG feats are garbage bro, why do you think Kishi even gave sasuke a teleportation jutsu 0.0 FTG has the most feats of any other teleportation jutsu except for kamui, why else do you think Minato was feared during the war era, flee on sight. Smh if your the type of person to dickride these new upgrade of characters like Kaguya, JJ madara, So6p naruto, Rinn Sasuke, Toneri, and Momokishi your garbage. Older generation is better than the new generation bruh, its like dragonballz nobody watches the new shit because nows it new powers and shit.
 

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CS2 or a simple ribcage Susano'o does the trick?

Explain the process of a c2 and susanno rib cage dealing with a baby in a wrapped up towel with an explosive tag on it, and the user using the explosive tag activates the seal on it 0.0 Lmaoo you make no ****ing sense you lose this argument
 

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Explain the process of a c2 and susanno rib cage dealing with a baby in a wrapped up towel with an explosive tag on it, and the user using the explosive tag activates the seal on it 0.0 Lmaoo you make no ****ing sense you lose this argument

What? He throws the cloth away and uses that? Use a bit of common sense.
 

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Lmao.

Hirashin has worked fine plenty of times. The reason it gets "intercepted" in certain cases is because it has the same problem as Amaterasu, it's essentially hax that would have killed a majority of characters in the story neg-diff.

Attacks that are so powerful they hurt the story are nerfed feat-wise for the sake of the story. Hence why Amaterasu has never worked on any character ever in the manga. It's obviously a powerful one-shot, but you can't go around using power-oneshots to end the story.
 

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Ok so then what's not a garbage feat from an s/t in your perspective then?

If the Jutsu is used against an opponent and it is a success/not intercepted or forces the opponent into a corner then it's a sturdy feat. For example when Obito warped Minato it forced him into a corner or when Sasuke cut Madara in half, had Kaguya running with Ameno ect.
 

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If the Jutsu is used against an opponent and it is a success/not intercepted or forces the opponent into a corner then it's a sturdy feat. For example when Obito warped Minato it forced him into a corner or when Sasuke cut Madara in half, had Kaguya running with Ameno ect.

And I'm the biased one lol ok so obito warping minato is forcing him into a corner and a feat, but minato ftg'ng and tagging him with a rasengan isnt. And then he does it again and takes obitos control of kurama, also not a feat right? Even though it pretty much forced obito to leave
 

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Really? Cause I think Minato teleporing the Juubi's Bijuudama is 'not garbage', especially since he saved your fav.
 

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Bias Sasuke fans who hate naruto and his fam, not event worth reading comments or threads by these people peace and btw, I highly doubt that susanno is going to be that fast for sasuke to throw a cloth with an activated explosive tag to protect his son, and say it does, that feat of being able to escape emergency situations like that is top level
 
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