[VS] Hinata Vs Saukra

BLAZE · Jun 19, 2017

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Raikage? Jinchuriki? Those are chakra modes.. Part 1 Chouji also manifests chakra wings in a mode of his iirc. And Chakra aura envelops Naruto when Kurama helps reopen his tenketsu. When Chakra is dense enough, it can be seen. Chouji increases the intensity of his chakra with pills, Raikage can charge the intensity of
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, and jinchuriki explains itself.

How else do you thing chakra covers their body lmao

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Raiton Chakra Mode

Raiton Chakra collects on the body, it's a body invigoration ninjutsu. From inside the body lightning gushes out, the speed of ones nerve transmissions rises. The body is wrapped in lightning, the jutsu durability is like that of armor. The Raikages' application of it causes their combat power to rise considerably.

It managed to chase Naruto's Bijuu Chakra Mode, however it was inferior to the great speed of the Yellow-Flash

Jinchuriki transformation is also chakra from bijuus coming out and covering the body

Btw, try to read what you're posting. CE Neji is a master of gentle fist despite not knowing air palm, wall palm, lion fists and having a rotation that was minuscule in comparison with Hiashi's...but because you're trying to prove a point you're putting CE Neji's cc on the same level as the Raikage's and Hebi freaking Sasuke?

That matters why
he was literally stated to be greatest genius to be hyuga history [

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Lol @bold nope i am just saying his jutsu was as impressive as jounins since tententen directly made that comparision.Hinata's chakra control is also good but nothing that above average jounins cannot do.

We're talking about Shape transformation
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not converted chakra techniques. Naruto uses chakra to make clones that can do the sexy jutsu. Does that count as shape transformation?

so converting chakra into sharks and dragons does not require shape transformation :lol Those are the jutsu that requires both shape transformation as well as adding nature to it [

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lmao its explicitly stated

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Chakra scalpel is like one of the few here that relates to what we're talking about and since your aim is to prove shape transformation wrt chakra isn't a big deal in regards to cc, then i'm sure you'll love to retract it since its an aspect of med ninjutsu that we both know requires cc that is well above average :lol

One of the few lmao dead

sasuke's jutsu's are explicit;y stated to be it

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samurai's blades can be clearly seen shaping chakra in different forms

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Bold..Rasengan is shape transformation not manipulation. Manipulation is making it bigger. And yes rasengan is the ultimate shape transformation technique but as kakashi said, [
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The fact they have to use clones to make it while pros like Jiraiya and Minato don't proves this.

Still laughing my ass off.Manipulation does not means making it bigger it means manipulating your chakra to perform different task either be shape transformation;nature transformation or both

Rasengan is rotating sphere lmao if cannot manipulate you chakra to rotate how are you even gonna perform it in first place [

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Chakra

Accumulating chakra and forming seals to activate a jutsu!
The physical and mental energies from 130 million body cells, that is, chakra, are accumulated, and by performing seals, this energy is converted into a jutsu. If this sequence is performed impeccably, the jutsu is activated.
To activate jutsu other than taijutsu, basic chakra conversion is needed.
To put it plainly, chakra is what fuels a jutsu. The mental and physical energies of a shinobi’s body are joined together into stamina, which is internally converted into chakra, the energy source for a jutsu’s activation. The efficiency of this conversion is influenced by the user’s skill. Being able to efficiently convert stamina means a possibility to cast an even larger number of jutsu. In addition, chakra can be used to temporarily trigger some physical abilities. Thanks to this, shinobi can perform superhuman physical feats.

Exactly what CES does but on a much larger scale becoz of chakra control that DB mentions about which you don't care since selective reading to discredit a feat of someone who is not hyuga or gaara

It would seem Tsunade's "outrageous strength" completely ignores the laws of nature!! The challenge to common sense that is her power is due in no small part to her artful chakra control and fine-tuning.

I used to think the same way you do because of the word 'ces'...but that word is fan-made and wrongly assigned to what Tsunade does.

The term is fanmade what tsunade and sakura does is not [

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Chakra enhanced strength is exactly what the part in bold in db1 refers to and there is no mention of requiring delicate chakra control. You adding that as a reason Naruto won't be able to do cbi is just wrong. Why? Because Sakura is able to do that by instantly collecting max chakra in her fists. Not because of strength. Kakashi's Sharingan can see chakra and he goes on to explain what it is...Chiyo and Sasori can't. That's why they call it strength because they don't know how it works and Kishi makes how it works clear.

chakra control just enhances it tooutrageous level is that so hard to understand

kakashi calls it raw strength lmao [

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It's hard to believe you keep calling me a troll and say i lack comprehension when you cannot understand this simple fact tbh :lol

(
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). And before you say "the chakra is covering her whole arm", please re-look and realize if it were covering her arm, it would have at the very least been drawn parallel to her forearm. Not that i need to mention that anyway as Kakashi, db2 and db3 make it clear chakra is concentrated in the fist.

Lmao why will i say that.Chakra is invisible there.If chakra was visble it would have been shown diffrently.

Yes and its still sumperhuman strength the thing you keep ignoring like it does not exist since it kills your argi=ument that does not make sense at all

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You will now obviously go back to db2 and bring up lifting the tanto thing as usual but perfectly ignore the text before that says "she achieves a power of destruction bodily strength alone cannot achieve" And i will ask "how does lifting the tanto qualify as a power of destruction feat?" And you will ramble and bold the first part of the text that contains dodgy translation. What does "The challenge to common sense that" even mean?

did i says its not power of destruction.Nope

you are the one who is being an ignorant troll trying ignore the fact that lifting of bunta's tanto was something that required ces which was stated in same DB that you are cherry picking

why isn't that quite clear it kills your argument and shows you literally are making things up :lol

Heavenly Foot of Pain (Tsuuten Kyaku)

Taijutsu, C-rank, Offensive, Close range
User: Tsunade
The heel swung down in anger makes the ground rumble in kind with an ultra-hard smackdown!!
All of her body’s outrageous strength is concentrated into her heel. Her stance crystallizes the body’s dynamics in a magnificent demonstration of the art of hand to hand combat. And when her heel swings downward, it’s as if a comet had fallen!! Nothing and no one could receive a direct hit and avoid pulverization.
The remainder of the impact smashed not only the ground, but the nearby rampart into tiny bits…!!

Konoha Thousand Leaves Collection #24

It would seem Tsunade's "outrageous strength" completely ignores the laws of nature!! The challenge to common sense that is her power is due in no small part to her artful chakra control and fine-tuning. To give things a name, by instantly collecting chakra into her fist and fingers, she obtains a power of destruction bodily strength alone cannot achieve.

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-Here's to a painful and bitter end! Such is Tsunade-hime's insane, "Legendary", power!!

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-One finger, and Naruto cannot close in on her. And she can handle Gamabunta's huge dosu** with absurd ease...?!

-The kind of might that opens craters into the ground in one blow!!

All of her body’s outrageous strength is concentrated into her heel.

It would seem Tsunade's "outrageous strength" completely ignores the laws of nature!! The challenge to common sense that is her power is due in no small part to her artful chakra control and fine-tuning. To give things a name, by instantly collecting chakra into her fist and fingers, she obtains a power of destruction bodily strength alone cannot achieve

I would also mention Tsunade was able to lift that sword because of her natural strength and give the fact Jirobo carried what he did as an example since he's also a 5 in strength but you would mention arsha? fist that has no correlation to
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whatsoever.

All i need to do is copy paste what kishimoto stated.You can troll al you want nobody cares :lol

Konoha Thousand Leaves Collection #24

It would seem Tsunade's "outrageous strength" completely ignores the laws of nature!! The challenge to common sense that is her power is due in no small part to her artful chakra control and fine-tuning. To give things a name, by instantly collecting chakra into her fist and fingers, she obtains a power of destruction bodily strength alone cannot achieve.

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-Here's to a painful and bitter end! Such is Tsunade-hime's insane, "Legendary", power!!

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-One finger, and Naruto cannot close in on her. And she can handle Gamabunta's huge dosu** with absurd ease...?!

-The kind of might that opens craters into the ground in one blow!!

Also pathetic liar? How so? I have said Kishi himself calls it strength in Sakura's db but goes on to explain what it really is [
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] (notice red arrow). Do you seriously expect him to re explain himself every-time despite making it clear there? If i did ask you when Tsunade uses her normal strength and when she concentrates chakra in her fist you wouldn't be able to answer because with the way you transpose Tsunade on Sakura, that would mean she never uses her natural strength at all.

Completely ignores the part next to it like everyone is stupid like that he/she would also ignore that :

And yeah i do speak more of my native language so perhaps my English is not on par with yours so can you please also tell me what "As for superhuman strength, it is more important to have courage and ability to assess the situation" means?

I am not a master in English and i also speak my native languge does not change fact its pretty easy to understand

It talks that courage and abilty to assess the suituation is more important than her superhuman strength

lmao..i post a scan that says Med ninja's must have knowledge of creating medicines requiring chemistry and Sakura is supposedly a med ninja that has surpassed Shizune? :lol Ok how about the fact Tsunade trained Shizune, has used poison when she poisoned Jiraiya in part 1 but poison fog can't be attributed as one of her techs? Don't bother answering though as I'm sure your answer will be as bogus as usual and i won't be replying back anyways.

So passing someone in chakra control and healing equals passing her in knowledge of creating medicines and poison.How stupid can you be :lol

And..wow. This is ridiculous. Is Deva's right hand off panel? :lol Naruto clearly looks in the direction of Deva's right arm and Deva looks over his
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as well and that right arm + direction are clearly on panel in
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. And not only will you be unable to give a logical reason as to why she opts to leave his back/left hand side and move outside of his right arm, her position when she arrives flat out debunks this. But i'm not that surprised you said this though :lol

Why are you moaning to me go moan KG i am sure he will school you good to make you realise that pain can change his position which he has been doing for past 2 chapters if you can read and comprehend,oh wait :lol

Huh you obviously have me confused for someone else. :lol I only like the Hyuga for their taijutsu. When it comes to ninjutsu, Gaara solos for me.

Nah pretty sure you are the only one [

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].Disliking a post becoz i said vaccum palm ain't pushing boulder away lmao.
And i will say it again Vaccum palm ain't pushing boulder away

Jinrou · Jun 19, 2017

BLAZE said:
How else do you thing chakra covers their body lmao

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Jinchuriki transformation is also chakra from bijuus coming out and covering the body

That matters why
he was literally stated to be greatest genius to be hyuga history [
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] despite not showing one body blow or rotation or 64 palms just gentle fist.

Lol @bold nope i am just saying his jutsu was as impressive as jounins since tententen directly made that comparision.Hinata's chakra control is also good but nothing that above average jounins cannot do.

so converting chakra into sharks and dragons does not require shape transformation :lol Those are the jutsu that requires both shape transformation as well as adding nature to it [
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lmao its explicitly stated

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One of the few lmao dead

sasuke's jutsu's are explicit;y stated to be it

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samurai's blades can be clearly seen shaping chakra in different forms

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Still laughing my ass off.Manipulation does not means making it bigger it means manipulating your chakra to perform different task either be shape transformation;nature transformation or both

Rasengan is rotating sphere lmao if cannot manipulate you chakra to rotate how are you even gonna perform it in first place [
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Exactly what CES does but on a much larger scale becoz of chakra control that DB mentions about which you don't care since selective reading to discredit a feat of someone who is not hyuga or gaara

The term is fanmade what tsunade and sakura does is not [
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chakra control just enhances it tooutrageous level is that so hard to understand

kakashi calls it raw strength lmao [
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Lmao why will i say that.Chakra is invisible there.If chakra was visble it would have been shown diffrently.

Yes and its still sumperhuman strength the thing you keep ignoring like it does not exist since it kills your argi=ument that does not make sense at all

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did i says its not power of destruction.Nope

you are the one who is being an ignorant troll trying ignore the fact that lifting of bunta's tanto was something that required ces which was stated in same DB that you are cherry picking

why isn't that quite clear it kills your argument and shows you literally are making things up :lol

Konoha Thousand Leaves Collection #24

It would seem Tsunade's "outrageous strength" completely ignores the laws of nature!! The challenge to common sense that is her power is due in no small part to her artful chakra control and fine-tuning. To give things a name, by instantly collecting chakra into her fist and fingers, she obtains a power of destruction bodily strength alone cannot achieve.

Caption

-Here's to a painful and bitter end! Such is Tsunade-hime's insane, "Legendary", power!!

Picture comments

-One finger, and Naruto cannot close in on her. And she can handle Gamabunta's huge dosu** with absurd ease...?!

-The kind of might that opens craters into the ground in one blow!!

All i need to do is copy paste what kishimoto stated.You can troll al you want nobody cares :lol

Konoha Thousand Leaves Collection #24

It would seem Tsunade's "outrageous strength" completely ignores the laws of nature!! The challenge to common sense that is her power is due in no small part to her artful chakra control and fine-tuning. To give things a name, by instantly collecting chakra into her fist and fingers, she obtains a power of destruction bodily strength alone cannot achieve.

Caption

-Here's to a painful and bitter end! Such is Tsunade-hime's insane, "Legendary", power!!

Picture comments

-One finger, and Naruto cannot close in on her. And she can handle Gamabunta's huge dosu** with absurd ease...?!

-The kind of might that opens craters into the ground in one blow!!

Completely ignores the part next to it like everyone is stupid like that he/she would also ignore that :
I am not a master in English and i also speak my native languge does not change fact its pretty easy to understand

It talks that courage and abilty to assess the suituation is more important than her superhuman strength

So passing someone in chakra control and healing equals passing her in knowledge of creating medicines and poison.How stupid can you be :lol

Why are you moaning to me go moan KG i am sure he will school you good to make you realise that pain can change his position which he has been doing for past 2 chapters if you can read and comprehend,oh wait :lol

Nah pretty sure you are the only one [
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].Disliking a post becoz i said vaccum palm ain't pushing boulder away lmao.
And i will say it again Vaccum palm ain't pushing boulder away

lmao..that isn't why i disliked your post xD and rotflmao.. Pain changed his position and Naruto that was more or less nailed to the floor changed his position too? xD Nah man..funny as heck!

BLAZE · Jun 20, 2017

Tell him pain changed his position.He gets naruto changed his position

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Jinrou · Jun 20, 2017

Says Pain changed his position but doesn't understand if that were the case Naruto who was at the feet of Pain the entire time would have had to change his position too.. but hey..let's ignore what we see eh :lmao:

Made in Heaven · Jun 21, 2017

Hinata was able to protect Neji from a zetsu before he could react, counter, use rotation, or even turn around. She's clearly near his level in taijutsu, including reaction time and speed, even before learning 64 Palms and getting Rikudo Chakra.

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