Hinata Vs Sakura

[Bronze]

Sakura low diff.

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[Turson]

Sakura low diff.

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And this scan should be enough to end this thread.

 

[Made in Heaven]

And the Databook also says this technique regenerate the body instantly, so hypothetically speaking, If Sakura gets hit by the 64 palms, Byakugou will reconstruct a new network inside her body, hit by hit, just like she would reconstruct any of her limbs.

Omfg .. .... ... Why can't you understand that jyuuken doesn't harm the coils or the chakra holes at all!! it does NO damage to them, it simply blocks them. How does a technique that speeds up cell divisoknhwlp in unblocking the point?

No, it's the same technique that is attacking the coils that the one which is attacking the organs, there is no difference, it's a chakra based skill that inflict damage to the internal body, including the coils.

No.
basic gentle fist (the one part 1 Hinata used) focuses on damaging internal organs by putting chakra into them

advanced gentle fist (the one Neji and part 2 Hinata use) focuses on closing chakra points and thus stopping chakra flow by putting chakra into them

They are not the same thing... So please. Stop trying to argue about something you know nothing of.

There is no difference in the internal body either, the organs are made of organs and tissues which are made of cells, just like the coils.

This is true, but jyuuken doesn't damage the coils, only the organs, and it closes the tenketsu. That's all.

So, coming back to my old point, Sakura only have to use CR to counter the affected Juuken area of her body, the load of chakra will, plus the regeneration properties will recover her chakra network, just like Naruto did against Neji. And Keep doing it all the times she gets hit and her seal allows her to do so.

I can agree somewhat. Suppose Sakura starts off with her yin seal closed, and gets hit with a few jyuuken strikes. its possible (note that I said possible) that releasing the seal could unblock the could. But. as we saw with kidomaru ... Once a sealed chakra source is released (cursed seal in kidomaru's case, yin sealin sakura's) if jyuuken is used on the user of the seal, the chakra source becomes unavailable to them because he can't channel chakra.

1. Hinata doesn't have rotation

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   Correction: she hasn't shown it.
   
   

   [*]Even if she had it:
   

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   Part 1 Naruto, with his worst Kyuubi cloak ever, and his poor chakra control was able to counter it.
   CES had broke Madara's Susanno:
   

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   So, you mean someone who doesn't even canonically mastered Kaiten yet, can counter CES with it? Please...

   And this is all I need to know you have zero sense of what you are even saying.
   
   Look at neji's damn rotation, its incomplete, barely even activated it.
   
   When Naruto attacked Neji using his Kyuubi chakra, Naruto’s chakra at that point was stronger than Neji’s. Yet Naruto suffered more damage and didn’t have his Kyuubi chakra afterwards.
   
   Why are you ignoring the fact that Naruto attacked him before he was able to fully activate Rotation?
   
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   Not only is it said that rotation can block physical attacks (ex: sakura's punches) but it's also said that it blows away enemy chakra (ex: sakura's chakra in her fist)
   
   

   [*]What Neji did yo Kidomaru, was disrupting his chakra flow, while the seal was active, so the cursed chakra was flowing in his chakra flow, that's why he was transformed, If the chakra is inside the seal then nothing will happen to Byakugou or CR

   Does this mean you agree that, if byakugo is activated and Sakura is hit by 64 palms, that it'll b stopped, just like kidomaru's was?
   
   

   [*]Hinata is not touching Sakura, she is not that smart, or that fast, the thing is Hinata never had any talent to be a shinobi:
   

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   Even I hated that guy, but he did said something important. Hanabi is better than Hinata, and she is 5 years younger, Neji is even better than Hanabi, so it's not like they are just great, Hinata is the one that is just... well.... let's say not good.

   This is gold trash. Pure absolute golden trash. Thank you for showing me your lack of common sense.
   
   You're biased enough to say Hinata isn't good enough to be a shinobi , when she has shown the traits of one much more than Sakura ...
   
   You're biased enough to use the words of Hiashi in part 1 despite him considering Hinata good enough to protect Neji just as he protects her ... Or how he was impressed with her helping Ino save the alliance or stopping the juubi.
   
   You're biased enough to to claim hanabi > Hinata even after 600 chapters of it being said. You still cling on to this desperately just to have a reason to call Hinata weak despite the fact that Hinata has learned twin lion fists, air palm, 64 palms, and has polished her taijitsu and visual prowess in general.and you believe this all while seeing Hinata fight in the war whilst hanabi is no where to be seen.
   
   I'd honestly insult you for the amount of mental gymnastics you're pulling off right now ... But I'll save my breth.

 

[paratise]

Thank you for bringing this up. You just reminded me of something.

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Databook states air palm has aspects of gentle fist.

What are the aspects of gentle fist? Closing coils, damaging organs, and destroying chakra.

Meaning air palm is essentially a ranged jyuuken. Also note that the databook speaks of both the speed at which the attack is executed and the force it applies... We saw the force of this attack with Hiashi and Hinata...

So an air palm to sakura's massive forehead will lead to severe brain damage ... And seeing as how brain cells can't divide to replace themselves (what yin seal does), Sakura gers smacked in the forhead, becomes mentally retarded and loses the match.

So this matches Sakura's range which was near hundred meters?
Airpalm is a linear one directional attack, and who is to say it can not be dodged? What is its speed and jutsu execution feat coming from Hinata? Best speed feat from Neji's airpalm is hitting Kisme while he was fighting off with 3 other ninja with 2 of them being among the fastest in ninja world.

Pretty much

Read 680 chapters and yet to see Hinata doing better than Sakura.

I'm not being lowly ... Its true that would happen ... If sasuke is mentioned. ... But y'kniw, if Naruto is mentioned that'll just make Hinata more determined to win Lol

Just like every other time which Hinata came out to be victorious when Naruto mentioned right?
Lets let it slide. It is a petty subject and i like neither of these girls' ways of infatuation.

no it isn't. You can clearly see Kakashi's fingers on her arm, pulling her toward him.

Maybe they ddged together. The "dodge" bubble is coming from Sakura.

I mean Heavenly Spin

Which Hinata does not have.

Of course, but the fact that katsuyu's target was so large yet sehe still missed ... It loses credibility... O I don't see it hitting something much smaller

Who cares if it was large? The snakes are quite swift and fast in movements, as shown how Aoda could move between tons of huge juubi clones while dodging their attacks and covering a huge distance through to actual juubi. Can Hinata do that?
Size does not make someone slower. A/Bee/Gai/Lee should be slower than part 1 Ino becuase they are bigger lel.

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That was like 5 seconds at most.

I know which scan you refer to, as i am decently knowledgable about Neji.
1)5 seconds can be very lethal for a ninja.
2)That Spider is much smaller than Katsuyu, and it can not divide itself to get away from upcoming harm.

 

[Optimistic]

And this scan should be enough to end this thread.

Nope cause Hinata has loads of fanfic stories, this shit won't end.

 

[Made in Heaven]

So this matches Sakura's range which was near hundred meters?
Airpalm is a linear one directional attack, and who is to say it can not be dodged? What is its speed and jutsu execution feat coming from Hinata? Best speed feat from Neji's airpalm is hitting Kisme while he was fighting off with 3 other ninja with 2 of them being among the fastest in ninja world.

Not at all. But that punch to the ground isn't killing Hinata ... I mean, it only sent the juubis flying ... Did any of them even die? Not from what we know of ...

It can't be dodged first and foremost because of its speed... But also because it can't even be seen. Its air.

Well, in 614, Hinata was able To execute it fast enough to block an incoming spike while avoiding others. So it's should be decently fast. the databook speaks of the attacks speed itself anyways, not neji's speed with the attack in particulae. Add on to that the fact that hinata's air palm had enough applied force to not only stop the spike from accelerating forward, but it even caused or to accelerate in the opposite direction. Finally, and This may not mean much, we also saw Hinata and Neji collaborating their air palms to execute air wall palm, which would hint that her air palm is equal to neji's

Maybe they ddged together. The "dodge" bubble is coming from Sakura.

Or course the bubble would come from her, she's the one being pulled over.

So Kakashi was groping Sakura for no reason then?

Which Hinata does not have.

I know

Who cares if it was large? The snakes are quite swift and fast in movements, as shown how Aoda could move between tons of huge juubi clones while dodging their attacks and covering a huge distance through to actual juubi. Can Hinata do that?
Size does not make someone slower. A/Bee/Gai/Lee should be slower than part 1 Ino becuase they are bigger then. Lel.

I never said it did ... I'm just saying jatsuyu couldn't even hit a target as big as manda.

I know which scan you refer to, as i am decently knowledgable about Neji.
1)5 seconds can be very lethal for a ninja.
2)That Spider is much smaller than Katsuyu, and it can not divide itself to get away from upcoming harm.

1)who knows ... Katsuyu is pretty big ... So it's possible that Hinata and sakura's distance would be far apart.
2)The spider being smaller would mean that it would take slighlt longer with katsuyu . The gentle fist would have inserted chakra into latsuyu's body at that point... Even if she gets away from Hinata, the chakra will still be in her body.

 

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Not at all. But that punch to the ground isn't killing Hinata ... I mean, it only sent the juubis flying ... Did any of them even die? Not from what we know of ...

Tiny crack made Hinata trip over. That destruction caused by Sakura's punch would break some bones, or atleast leave her vulnerable to give Sakura opportunity to strike.

It can't be dodged first and foremost because of its speed... But also because it can't even be seen. Its air.

It requires a stance by thrusting hand forward. An attack coming afterwards can be predicted.

Well, in 614, Hinata was able To execute it fast enough to block an incoming spike while avoiding others. So it's should be decently fast. the databook speaks of the attacks speed itself anyways, not neji's speed with the attack in particulae. Add on to that the fact that hinata's air palm had enough applied force to not only stop the spike from accelerating forward, but it even caused or to accelerate in the opposite direction. Finally, and This may not mean much, we also saw Hinata and Neji collaborating their air palms to execute air wall palm, which would hint that her air palm is equal to neji's

Neji's airpalms is not that ranged and big either.

Or course the bubble would come from her, she's the one being pulled over.

So Kakashi was groping Sakura for no reason then?

Or she is the one who is dodging too.

I never said it did ... I'm just saying jatsuyu couldn't even hit a target as big as manda.

And i am saying it does not matter it was being a huge target as it is fast and swift. Did Hinata show to be to so like those snakes? Nope so how acid is getting dodged 100%?

1)who knows ... Katsuyu is pretty big ... So it's possible that Hinata and sakura's distance would be far apart.
2)The spider being smaller would mean that it would take slighlt longer with katsuyu . The gentle fist would have inserted chakra into latsuyu's body at that point... Even if she gets away from Hinata, the chakra will still be in her body.

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she can leap the distance, or make Hinata trip by disturbing ground from distance.
2)Katsuyu is way bigger than that. She can spit acid while Hinata is busy with channeling chakra and it is good game.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Sakura takes this. There really isn't an argument that can be made for Hinata anymore.

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[Keimil]

Omfg .. .... ... Why can't you understand that jyuuken doesn't harm the coils or the chakra holes at all!! it does NO damage to them, it simply blocks them. How does a technique that speeds up cell divisoknhwlp in unblocking the point?

Of course it does....

No.
basic gentle fist (the one part 1 Hinata used) focuses on damaging internal organs by putting chakra into them

advanced gentle fist (the one Neji and part 2 Hinata use) focuses on closing chakra points and thus stopping chakra flow by putting chakra into them

That's not the point... that's only another proof of how inferior Hinata is.

My point was the technique does not change when the Hyuugas are targeting organs and chakra points.

They are not the same thing... So please. Stop trying to argue about something you know nothing of.

Really? Like what? Air palm being able to sealing off Byakugou??
Or what about the chakra shroud being capable of tanking CES??

I mean, It's obvious you know about that stuff, right? XD

Ahh I almost forget about gentle fist being unable to disrupt Bijuu's chakra. And this is beyond lame, you even tried to downgrade you character in order to use this lie that against Sakura, pathetic indeed.

This is true, but jyuuken doesn't damage the coils, only the organs, and it closes the tenketsu. That's all.

It does, Gentle Fist is no sealing jutsu, it blocks the coils by damaging them with chakra, it's not the old-school damage, but is damage in the end. That's what you are failing to understand.

I can agree somewhat. Suppose Sakura starts off with her yin seal closed, and gets hit with a few jyuuken strikes. its possible (note that I said possible) that releasing the seal could unblock the could. But. as we saw with kidomaru ... Once a sealed chakra source is released (cursed seal in kidomaru's case, yin sealin sakura's) if jyuuken is used on the user of the seal, the chakra source becomes unavailable to them because he can't channel chakra.

Because he had released the seal, he was transformed into that thing, that means he hadn't closed the seal when Neji soloed him...

Correction: she hasn't shown it.

Whatever, if she doesn't show it in the manga is not canon for me, or anyone... But even if she does, and I really hope she will (I actually like Hinata), this VS won't change...

And this is all I need to know you have zero sense of what you are even saying.

Look at neji's damn rotation, its incomplete, barely even activated it.

I don't care, I proved to you that Sakura can break the chakra shroud, and that she even can by destroy Kaiten at its initial state. Just reminding you of the person using this technique is Neji, who has always been superior to Hinata, and even mastered Kaiten and 64 palms waaaaay too sooner than her, so it's fair to say this Kaiten is even stronger than whatever Hinata is capable of doing.

When Naruto attacked Neji using his Kyuubi chakra, Naruto’s chakra at that point was stronger than Neji’s. Yet Naruto suffered more damage and didn’t have his Kyuubi chakra afterwards.

Why are you ignoring the fact that Naruto attacked him before he was able to fully activate Rotation?

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Not only is it said that rotation can block physical attacks (ex: sakura's punches) but it's also said that it blows away enemy chakra (ex: sakura's chakra in her fist)

Yes, Naruto suffered more damage, but that is no the point, the point is Sakura will destroy that Kaiten with even stronger power, and regarding to the damage, well... Byakugou and CR sh*ts on it....

Physical attacks?!!! CES is a Physical attack now?? Since when?!
Do you even know how it works? It's about gathering and releasing chakra in perfect timing, Kakashi stated and the beginning of part 2:

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She is not hitting Kaiten (initial state) with her naked fist, it contains "the maximum amount of chakra" she can gather in her hand, and is released instantly when it makes contact.
If Part 1 Naruto did it, current Sakura is doing even better.

Does this mean you agree that, if byakugo is activated and Sakura is hit by 64 palms, that it'll b stopped, just like kidomaru's was?

If we deny its regenerative properties, yes, I agree with you. So no...

This is gold trash. Pure absolute golden trash. Thank you for showing me your lack of common sense.

Are you mad? It's canon you know?

You're biased enough to say Hinata isn't good enough to be a shinobi , when she has shown the traits of one much more than Sakura ...

Biased? Did I say that or it was Hiashi?

What does Hinata has shown to be better than Sakura anyway, half point more in Taijutsu? Better eye vision? What exactly?

You're biased enough to use the words of Hiashi in part 1 despite him considering Hinata good enough to protect Neji just as he protects her ... Or how he was impressed with her helping Ino save the alliance or stopping the juubi.

Yes, I know, her father recognized her at some point, but that doesn't make her any better than his sister, let alone Neji.

You're biased enough to to claim hanabi > Hinata even after 600 chapters of it being said. You still cling on to this desperately just to have a reason to call Hinata weak despite the fact that Hinata has learned twin lion fists, air palm, 64 palms, and has polished her taijitsu and visual prowess in general.and you believe this all while seeing Hinata fight in the war whilst hanabi is no where to be seen.

I mean, Neji was still superior than Hinata when he died, so that difference in power stands even after part 2, why would the difference in power between Hanabi and Hinata would change with no particular proof or hint at all. That doesn't seem logic to me...

I'd honestly insult you for the amount of mental gymnastics you're pulling off right now ... But I'll save my breth.

Menthal gymnastycs? XD

Sorry, but you are seriously not able to do any of that...

Sakura takes this. There really isn't an argument that can be made for Hinata anymore.

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@Bold: That is something I can't agree with...

 

[neosmith500]

Its Hinata's gentle fist, she is nothing special with her skills. Her skills havent even reached Part 1 Neji's yet.

Nd yet you claimed sakura beats ts neji in CQC??!!...Sakura wins easy with slug and wins very easy with AOE punches,hinata is jus not skilled enough with her feats to really test sakura

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Sakura godstomps neg diff.

 

[ByakuganUser]

Hinata takes this!
She's like SO much stronger than Sakura.
Sakura doesn't have her strength without chakra, sooo, all that Hinata has to do is stop her chakra flow.
Then she can't summon Katsuyu, activate her byakugou seal...
Hinata 4Life

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[Minato namikaze123]

Hinata med deffs her

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Hinata med deffs her

How? Hinata has no feats to let her even be a fight for Sakura. Hinata has no reaction, speed, cqc, or strength feats. People only want Hinata to win because they hate Sakura...

And Lol if you think Hinata is going to stop her chakra flow when there's Yin Seal and when Sakura has better feats in taijutsu. Not that Hinata will even be able to get close to Sakura anyway. And if she does, Sakura shits on her.

Sakura neg diff. It's not debatable unless you're a (not so bright) fanboy.

 

[bluestone123]

When hinata could use rotation when sakura tries to punches her.
stunning her then hinata will use 8 trigrams 64 palms and block sakura's chakra points.
ps dont say sakura can punch through rotation cause she cant.
And you are the sakura fanboy/fangirl , use logic kid dont underestimate hinata cause you dont like her.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Hinata does not have rotation. Sakura demolishes her in cqc. This is a stomp match. God forbid Sakura summons Katsuyu.

 

[bluestone123]

Hinata could use air palm in place of rotation.
Air palm has been shown to be able to.break through rocks.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Wrong again. Hinata's air palms are weak without Naruto's chakra. Sakura only feels a breeze, and Lol if you think she's going to attempt it at close range, it takes a while to start up and Sakura is objectively faster than her.

 

[BLAZE]

Lel one punch gg
Hinata is featless overhyped fodder

 

[bluestone123]

Seriously, who told you hinata air palm is weak?