[VS] Hinata vs Sakura. Dattebayo!
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Hinata couldn't cling to the building using chakra because Toneri had disturbed her chakra. Hinata says so as she's falling. It's why she passes out before Naruto catches her.
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Lol if you REALLY think all Hinata needs is Air Palm, then you need to close this thread and go to fanfiction.net immediately.
OT: Sakura still stomps the Retcon Princess.
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Says the person who wanks punching the ground. The air palm's power is underrated.
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She recovered quickly from it and people say sakura has that advantage as being a medic.
You should check the konoha prodigies. The sakura want is real there.
Hinata stomps sakura with muddy boots.
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I really don't, it's just that Hinata has no way to survive it from close to mid range distances, outside of bs and fanfics, of course.
Saying Air Palm is ALL she needs to take out Sakura, however, is wank.
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Don't remember any feats from hinata that suggests she can tangle with a kage-level fighter. Did she really do anything in the last other than fail to destroy the tenseigan by herself?
The only piece of evidence that I can think of for hinata actually winning would be naruto stating that she's strong on two occasions.
The only piece of evidence that I can think of for hinata actually winning would be naruto stating that she's strong on two occasions.
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I never said that. I just said air palm has great advantage there.
Sakura isn't kage level. Also Hinata is very strong.
Does that count as Rikudo Chakra, though? Hagoromo is the Rikudo Sennin/Sage of the Six Paths, not Hamura, though their chakra is very likely similar. That technicality aside, Hamura's chakra is certainly strong and it was indeed given to Hinata, but we haven't necessarily seen it amplify her abilities. While I agree it would, it's difficult to say just how much it gave her, particularly since we haven't seen anything out of Hamura himself.
Let's assume all of Hinata's powers are buffed, and she's given a strength/speed increase, and like you pointed out with the gifs she's now able to fly. I still think Sakura wins mid-diff, especially with Katsuyu around. I'd argue Sakura's taijutsu ability is superior to Hinata's, and though Twin Lion Fists could drain Sakura's chakra and leave her without her chakra-enhanced strength, Sakura's taijutsu style is based entirely around the evasion of attacks. She was trained by Tsunade, one of the greatest (if not the greatest) medical-nin shown in the series, and the role of the medical-nin is to avoid attacks and keep as much chakra available as they can for healing purposes. For that reason, I could see Sakura evading most of Hinata's attacks and ultimately landing a chakra-enhanced hit on her.
Once the hit is made, Sakura's strength kicks in and she takes it.
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True , but it can be shot from 10m which should be a fair distance since any farther and sakura will avoid combat all together with insta katsuyu as u put it and since they are both primarily CQC based fighters it makes sense.
Anyway katsuyu surely ends this the moment she touches the field but in a battle without summons hinata can win 6/10 times Lol.
No ground pound BS will work Lol
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I do, and I already presented it to you, bur rather than countering, all you've done is say they're falling really slowly.They were falling down slowly for effect. Obviously if it was the kissing scene they wouldn't be falling down full speed. I don't know what's in your head making you think that she now has the ability to fly. If you're going to theorize such things, please have some, at least, good evidence.
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so here it is again:
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Look at them in these gifs, they’re right in the center of the moon, about a body’s distance away from each other, before they start gliding towards one another. Then look at them in the first and last, still in the same location.
Not only are they still in the same location for around 30 seconds at max, but it’s clear they’re not falling and are instead in-place due to Hinata’s hair gently flowing in the breeze, as opposed to what would happen to her hair if they were descending. Look at the snow falling downwards, and yet they’re still in place, for multiple seconds in a row with absolutely nothing showing or indicating or hinting at them falling or descending .
What kind of indication do you have for me to believe they were ‘falling very slowly’ ? Why are they falling very slowly to begin with? Why should I believe this when everything I pointed out goes against it and that we know they’re back on earth.
If it was slow motion, the snow wouldn’t be falling as it was, and if it was slow motion, Hinata would still have her hair flowing upwards. If it was slow motion, they would not have been in the exact same place for 30 seconds without even a shred of hint that they have moved even one inch downwards.
They’re not descending, as they are completely still, with no implication of downward movement whatsoever. Nor are they floating in space, as there is snow in that scene, showing that they’re in earth’s atmosphere. We also see Hinata move towards Naruto in mid air, showing she can fly without needing Naruto’s help.
Her seal could heal the damage Jyuuken would cause, sure, but once/if Hinata manages to close a few of her chakra points, she won't be able to use the seal or CEs properly at all.
A chunnin level Shinobi jumping away or using chakra to stay still is not fanfiction, it's simple logic.
As for Air Palm, yes, it could possible one-shot Sakura
Here's how:
It’s been evidenced that Sakura can’t take blunt force to the head, as shown when Kabuto’s butt knocked her out cold simply by knocking her head against the bridge. Hinata could replicate this with her Air Palm, easily blitzing her with it, mind you.
Neji’s basic Air Palm provided enough force from about 4 M away to send someone as heavy as Kisame flying, and he would not have stopped had he not had Samehada with him. Now image a rikudo-enhanced Air Palm being used on a much lighter opponent who has nothing to help stop her body from flying. results would be more devastating than what Hinata did to the Juubi’s hand
Thus, I conclude that a Hamura-Chakra Air Palm to Sakura’s body will send her flying and knock her head on a wall or other surface, thus it will render her unconscious, ergo making Hinata the victor.
Or Hinata could just smash her brains to bits w/ Air palm. And w/o a brain, the body can't function, including using chakra, so she dies since she can't heal her brain.
Sakura isn't a Kage level, let's not disgrace the other Kages by calling her as such. She's jonin level. Not even low Kage, as that would be something like Kakashi w/ sharingan.
As for what Hinata got in the last, she gained Hamura's chakra, in turn giving her stats a boost [+power, +speed] and granting her the ability to fly.
Tsunade is eons above her in so many ways, it's not even funny. She has better speed feats [blitzing Madara multiple times], better taijutsu feats [VS Orochimaru & Madara], more stamina [Senju/Uzumaki], more durability [See heavenly transfer technique], more chakra [Senju/uzumaki], experience [decades of it], natural strength as well as CES [as opposed to just CES], and has a VERY useful techniques Sakura lacks [body pathway derangement] .
Not to mention Hashirama inverse compared Yin Seal Sakura's strength to a 5 Year old Tsunade's, back when she was in the academy and hadn't developed the Yin Seal.
It does, because Hamura has TSB, and those are made from Six Path chakra + 5 nature elements.
We have seen it amplify her powers, it was done so when she was trying to destroy the Tenseigan weapon.
Considering Hamura is Hagoromo's equal, and has the Tenseigan, which rival's the Rennigan in power, I'd say it would grant a boost of power perhaps around a Kyuubi cloak in terms of speed and power boosts.
I also believe Sakura could beat Hinata w/ Katsuyu.
Not really, as Gentle Fist has been called Konoha's strongest fighting style. Not only that, Hinata has a higher score in taijutsu than Sakura, albeit by a mere 0.5.
Also, Hinata has shown that she has incredible arm speed, ones that surpass Sakura’s. She is capable of executing the 64 palms, a maneuver said and shown to be unavoidable as soon as the first hit lands.
This technique can only be done by those that have crazy fast hand speeds, as it requires fast and precise jabs as well as fluid footwork and handwork in order to keep the attack going.
Another example of Hinata’s fast arm speeds is in regards to the Air Palm . Air Palm is a technique that creates compressed air pressure merely through the sheer speed at which the user’s arm travels. It is then made into a ranged attack through shooting out chakra from the hands.
Sakura would not be able to dodge Hinata's attacks, as she can strike 32 times in a splt second, far more than anything Sakura could react to. Especially when you consider how Hinata was able to fnid an opening and land a hit on Neji even in part one despite how many times superior he was to her. Then when you consider how she's improved over the years, how her Twin Lion fists can extend her range [allowing for better distance] and how she has Rikudo chakra which would increase her already super-fast arm speeds, it's extremely unlikely Sakura will be dodging Hinata's attacks .
Sakura has failed to evade the following
1. Couldn’t dodge Omoi’s fodder kick
2. Couldn’t dodge A single wooden spike (while Hinata did) and needed saving from Kakashi
3. Couldn’t dodge Sasuke’s chidori and needed saving from Kakashi
4. Couldn’t dodge Kabuto’s butt, which knocked her out cold
5. Couldn’t dodge a flying rock
Her only good evasive feats are against Sasori’s puppets, and even then, that is undermined by the fact that Sakura essentially had prep time to analyze Sasori’s attack pattern while chiyo controlled her and kept her safe from harm. Otherwise, she would have died instantly.
In other words, if Sakura has no prep time to analyze the opponents attack pattern, then she won’t be able to avoid them easily.
In fact, Sakura was only able to avoid certain death 13 times due to chiyo saving her ass with her puppetry skills from sasori’s attacks and her having prep time to make 3 antidotes, of which 2 were used on her.
3 times in 265
4 times in 267
1 time in 268
2 times in 269
1 time in 270
1 time in 271
1 time in 273
2 times in 274
Thats a total of 15 fails of Sakura avoiding Sasori’s attacks, adding the fails from the list above, and we’ve got 20 moments where Sakura has failed to use her “super awesome” evasive skills.
So stop trying to make is seem like her evasive skills are something so great and amazing when they really aren’t anything impressive at all.
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Can you please stop trying to give a feat that doesn't exist to her. They were obviously falling down slow and majestically to make the scene look beautiful. How would the scene look if they were kissing and falling down fast? Please stop. If it was a legit feat, I would give it to her. Sadly it is not. I know she's your favorite character and all but saying that instead of making the scene look beautiful and touching they show off her new feat?
Can you please stop trying to give a feat that doesn't exist to her. They were obviously falling down slow and majestically to make the scene look beautiful. How would the scene look if they were kissing and falling down fast? Please stop. If it was a legit feat, I would give it to her. Sadly it is not. I know she's your favorite character and all but saying that instead of making the scene look beautiful and touching they show off her new feat?
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Obviously they were falling slowly. The movie creators would want this scene to look as beautiful as can be. I know that it's your favorite character and all, but really? Giving random feats. If it were a legit feat I would respect it and accept it as one. But, sadly, it isn't. You seriously defend her too much. Enough to start throwing out random fan-fiction. Please stop with this nonsense, Lady Byakugan. She does not have the ability to fly.
Obviously they were falling slowly. The movie creators would want this scene to look as beautiful as can be. I know that it's your favorite character and all, but really? Giving random feats. If it were a legit feat I would respect it and accept it as one. But, sadly, it isn't. You seriously defend her too much. Enough to start throwing out random fan-fiction. Please stop with this nonsense, Lady Byakugan. She does not have the ability to fly.
False, another source of chakra can counter that unsealed the coils Juuken closes, we have discussed it lots of times, and you always loose... Lol
Sakura can use Byakugou as her independent source of chakra.
FTR, Air palm is not doing shit.
A 30% chakra clone of Kisame tanked it:
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So no, Kisame didn't heal when he touched Samehada, air palm isn't that great... Sakura can regenerate the damage instantly, as the Databooks states so.
Sakura has to be saved you say?
Hinata had to be save from the attack of the Giant Golem in The Last, but It's not only that Sakura didn;t she was the first to jump away.
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So who was faster at the end? We know Sakura is faster by Databooks stats, and also there is an specific part of Databook 3 where Kishi praised Sakura's evasion skills, and now we have a feat of her evading the very same attack Hinata failed to dodge.
It has been set, Sakura has better reflexes and movement speed. Period.
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The scene was used to be the kissing scene, NOT to show off Hinata's so called flying power. They were falling slowly to make the scene look beautiful, magical. I can't believe that you are still believing this fan-fiction. I know that Hinata is your favorite character and all, but I don't know why you think that it's a power up. It's a kissing scene, Lady Byakugan. Nothing more. Nothing less. Not a new power showing scene.
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Assumes Sakura can unblock chakra points w/ Yin seal despite it never being said or shown.
Calls me bias and pathetic for assuming Hinata has Hamura's chakra despite her chakra colour changing.
When do you plan on stopping this hypocritical view of yours?
Never said she couldn't heal the damage, the mere force of the Air Palm would knock her out. As did Kabuto's butt.
Hinata didn't have byakugan on. Her reflexes would be better if she did. So her being saved by naruto [who didn't even give her a chance to attempt to dodge] is invalid. Also, as I said, you're fooling no one but yourself if you think that Golem is as fast as the Juubi. Not to mention you can't even see what happened in that scene clearly. So why not wait for a better quality before you start talking?
Kishi can praise her all he likes, doesn't change the fact that her evasion skills are horrible by canon facts.
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