Hinata vs Kidomaru
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Doesn't matter. The only reason why kidomaru got to do any of the crap he did is because he stayed outside neji's 50 m range. Even part 1 hinata's range was better than that. But current version has 8km. Kido can't set up kido losses
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I'd also like to mention that the only reason 64 palms was ineffective against kidomaru was because he was able to protect his points with his golden skin at the last second.
As kidomaru said himself, "it was a narrow escape". There's no guaranteeing he can do it over and over again, especially since that would take up chakra. And Hinata is the one with more chakra reserves in this case... As well as the one who would be using less chakra for her attacks.
Also, while twin lion fists doesn't really have any feats, its more than obvious that it is a stronger version of basic gentle fist attacks. so combining 64 palms with twin lion fists should provide enough fire power to break through kidomaru's golden skin
Moreover, air palm is not only an extremely fast attack, its also invisible (since its made of compressed air), so it would be able to harm kidomaru's organs from a distance before he can react to it.
As kidomaru said himself, "it was a narrow escape". There's no guaranteeing he can do it over and over again, especially since that would take up chakra. And Hinata is the one with more chakra reserves in this case... As well as the one who would be using less chakra for her attacks.
Also, while twin lion fists doesn't really have any feats, its more than obvious that it is a stronger version of basic gentle fist attacks. so combining 64 palms with twin lion fists should provide enough fire power to break through kidomaru's golden skin
Moreover, air palm is not only an extremely fast attack, its also invisible (since its made of compressed air), so it would be able to harm kidomaru's organs from a distance before he can react to it.
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Desperate niqqas these days Lol
1. Rotation was a non factor in that fight. So nah.
2. Reaction feats and intelligence are irrelevant here since kidomaru won't be able to hide from hinata's 10km radius vision, so he won't be able to throw daggers and control them with strings while he hides in a safe location. The only reason he was able to play it safe for the entirety of the fight was because he went outside of neji's 50m radius field of vision . Hinata's radius was 1km in part 1 and 10km in part 2. so he won't get a chance to use his daggers/spears/arrows with Hinata knowing his location. All of his battle feats came from hiding from Neji and attacking.... If he can't hide, which he won't be able to, he is at a huge disadvantage
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I actually remember that rotation was perfect in that fight. :| Didn't Neji like protect himself against the spiders with it or something?
Would it really help if Hinata just knew where he was if she can't dodge the arrows? :|
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No, rotation was stopped by the threads.
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Of course it would, that's the whole reason Neji was unable to attack him. Here's what happened when Neji spotted him.
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And I'm pretty certain Hinata can dodge them, since she has Byakugan, which would help her in detecting them, and she was trained by neji himself... Refelxes are a part of taijitsu; you can't have taijutsu without refelxes, this is obvious. And hinata's taijutsu was ranked as 3.5 in databook#3, which was before we saw her use 64 palms, or twin lion fists, or air palm. And to be honest, kidomaru's feats in base aren't that impressive.
In any case, any feats kidomaru displayed in curse mode one or curse mode two are irrelevant here, since jyuuken can prevent kidomaru from using it to begin with.
Also, kidomaru was able to set up traps while Neji was dealing with the spiders, which he wouldn't be able to do if hinata's chasing him.
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I'm still quite unsure if the air palm attack will actually stop him from using his curse mark. Would it even hit Kidomaru?
Neji wasn't able to dodge the arrows, or protect with rotation which makes me doubt this, too.
And HOW exactly will Hinata counter the spiders then? :|
You are bringing up kinda good points, but it's mostly just assumptions. Hinata does have her chances against Kidomaru of course, but I see him taking this more times than her.
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For the third time: Rotation was a non factor in the fight. Try header please.
I never said air palm. I said gentle fist could stop him from using his curse seal.
Well, then again, air palm has been said to have the same abilities as gentle fist, so I dunno.
Kidomaru was only able to do this because he was out of neji's sight.
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Every attack kidomaru uses from here on forward is basically irrelevant in this matchup, since he would have been outside of neji's 50m range to execute them, and hinata's range is 10km radius
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How in the heck is Hinata going to catch him? :| Simply by seeing him somewhere. If I recall right Kidomaru is actually faster than her.
The arrow can be controlled for better accuracy, simply because Hinata does see it coming does not mean she can actually do anything about it.
And what about the spiders? What will Hinata do?
She could actually lose already in the beginning of the fight since Neji needed kaiten to protect himself from the projectiles, which Hinata still lacks.
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Faster? Where are his speed feats? He never shows any! He's hiding for almost the entire fight .
Which arrow are you referring to?
Neji dealt with the spiders using 64 palms , Hinata will do the same.
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Of course, this is assuming kidomaru gets a chance to enter curse seal mode, since kidomaru had to enter curse seal v1 in order to summon his spider.
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The one that he shot with the bow. It's like a guided missile.
Hinata had a hard time to use 64 palms on a huge target, this pretty much tells me that the spiders would be just too small.
She could actually lose already in the beginning of the fight since Neji needed kaiten to protect himself from the projectiles, which Hinata still lacks.
Where are Hinata's speed feats? :| Databook says Hinata is faster, since both lack good feats in that department that should be counted too.
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Ah, that one. Well, firstly, that was, again, aimed at Neji from afar and also required him to use his curse seal. There's no guarantee he wouldd be able to use it before he has his curse seal closed off.
The size of the juubi cline doesn't matter. 64 palms aims to close 64 teneketsu on an opponent, these tenketsu have been said to be smaller than the tip of a needle (waaay smaller than the spiders). 64 palms in and of itself is a precision technique.
Maybe so. But those wouldn't really kill her, and she could always dodge or deflect them. Air palm has a pretty wide attack range. She has shown to be able to dodge pretty well, when she was avoiding the juubi's wooden spikes rain without needing to use rotation and yet covered for herself as well as Naruto.
These spiders will come from all directions. There are no tenketsu to press, or is she just jabbing one spiders 64 tenketsu? :|
Her current state with 64 palms isn't enough to pull the Nejis.
And there are the assumptions again. Hinata will only win when we assume that she can do things she hasn't shown. Kidomaru has done everything I have presented.
Closing of his CS isn't really happening here, Kidomaru won't let it become close combat, just like he didn't with Neji.
I do agree though that in close combat Hinata would destroy him, but Kidomaru is pretty damn smart.
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That's not my point. My point is 64 palms requires precision itself to be used, so Hinata all be able to defelct all of them. She stumbled for like a second before continuing the attack, and had enough confidence her skills with it to combine it with her twin lion fists. Her skill with 64 palms is just as good as neji's. That weakness in 633 she showed when using it was overcome in the exact same chapter.
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What assumption?
Yes it is. OP said Intel is none for both parties in this scenario. Kidomaru will engage in close combat like he did with Neji, unaware that Hinata is a gentle fist user, and get knocked the **** out with her 64 twin lion palms attack.
Seriously? I'm done with this now since all this bullshit floating around.
I just have to say that why would Kidomaru confront anyone in close combat when his strength lies in attacking from afar. :|