Hinata Hyuuga && Neji Hyuuga GRAND comparision

[neosmith500]

Hinata's byakugan was always superior. r.

What evidence do we hav that hinata's byakugan is superior? the fact that neji was tasked to find those seals which were 800m apart? Which somhow makes people believe thats his vision limit.

While hinata was tasked to investigate an explosion which was 10k away from her which somehow makes people believe thats her limit.

Well since this is obviously flawed and we hav no clue wat their limits are we can simply use the databook which stated that "Hinata's byakugan is in no way inferior to neji's" which was after hinata displayed her 10km range to deduce that neji!s vision would go way beyond 800m an that both their eyes were pretty close in that regard since kishi saw fit to inforce that hinata's byakugan is not inferior.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

What evidence do we hav that hinata's byakugan is superior? the fact that neji was tasked to find those seals which were 800m apart? Which somhow makes people believe thats his vision limit.

While hinata was tasked to investigate an explosion which was 10k away from her which somehow makes people believe thats her limit.

Well since this is obviously flawed and we hav no clue wat their limits are we can simply use the databook which stated that "Hinata's byakugan is in no way inferior to neji's" which was after hinata displayed her 10km range to deduce that neji!s vision would go way beyond 800m an that both their eyes were pretty close in that regard since kishi saw fit to inforce that hinata's byakugan is not inferior.

His limit in part 1 was 50 m. Hinata shown (by no means is her limit(your logic)) 1 km.
All he's shown in part 2 is 800m
Hinata shown 10 k.

Even from part 1 it had superior feats.

 

[neosmith500]

His limit in part 1 was 50 m. Hinata shown (by no means is her limit(your logic)) 1 km.
All he's shown in part 2 is 800m
Hinata shown 10 k.

Even from part 1 it had superior feats.

But in part1 it was portrayed that neji had the better byakugan , bein able to see chakra points nd all , along with the fact that he always trained his eyes , discoverin the blind spot.
Hinata surpassin neji's vision range by such a large scale makes no sense.

But i get where ur comim from , wats shown is shown.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

But in part1 it was portrayed that neji had the better byakugan , bein able to see chakra points nd all , along with the fact that he always trained his eyes , discoverin the blind spot.
Hinata surpassin neji's vision range by such a large scale makes no sense.

But i get where ur comim from , wats shown is shown.

All byakugan can see chakra points.

Like I already said the only thing neji had over her is his taijutsu. When it comes to the byakugan themselves her's is vastly superior.

 

[neosmith500]

All byakugan can see chakra points.

Like I already said the only thing neji had over her is his taijutsu. When it comes to the byakugan themselves her's is vastly superior.

If thats the case then neji would'nt of said this

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Think about it , how could hinata's eyes be superior to neji's even in part1 when he has been trainin an masterin them long before she even began to truly train herself?

But again , we can agree to disagree.

Edit: I quess it was a translation error in regards to neji sayin he can see tenketsu since hinata was shown seein them in the fight..

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[Kagustuchi]

Are we arguing that because Hinata's Byakugan can see farther it's better? Yea right. That means jack in a fight, and Hinata's Byakugan couldn't see Tenketsu even while she had a range advantage in part one.

So that alone disproves seeing farther = stronger Doujutsu

 

[BLAZE]

i was negged for my first post on this thread my sides :lol OP was a troll with no proof to back his BullS

 

[6thHokage]

i was negged for my first post on this thread my sides :lol OP was a troll with no proof to back his BullS

He negged everyone that disagreed with him

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If thats the case then neji would'nt of said this

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Think about it , how could hinata's eyes be superior to neji's even in part1 when he has been trainin an masterin them long before she even began to truly train herself?

But again , we can agree to disagree.

Edit: I quess it was a translation error in regards to neji sayin he can see tenketsu since hinata was shown seein them in the fight..

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He hasn't trained to master byakugan. His mastery lies solely in his gentle fist. Rotation, 64 palms, air palm etc.. all gentle fist taijutsu. His dojutsu is inferior.

 

[neosmith500]

He hasn't trained to master byakugan. His mastery lies solely in his gentle fist. Rotation, 64 palms, air palm etc.. all gentle fist taijutsu. His dojutsu is inferior.

Really bro? Training to master includes finding out its weakness among other things that neji was "shown" doin.

He was constantly training his vision , dude was so focused on his trainin that he had no interest in seein his new hokage an would much rather train his eyes

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He even did so in battle while we hav no idea if hinata even knew about the blindspot at the time an since neji was shown constantly trainin an learning about his eyes an hinata was not , we can assume
she didn't

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The only thing goin for hinata is that she was "tasked " to see somthing which was 10k away from her while neji was tasked to see things 800m away , usin that to deduce that hinata can see farther is flawed.

Hinata in the war was shown takin over from neji when he overused his byakugan durin lookout duty. If hinata's eyes were so vastly superior then why the heck would they even place neji on the job when hinata's eyes were so superior? why wouldn't she herself take the job from the start an not let neji overuse his inferior eyes to the piont he passed out?

Hinata even said that she cant let neji do "all" the work and that she can do it "too" , which is funny since u believe her eyes are so superior.

Also why would kishi see fit to note the fact that hinata's eyes were in no way inferior to neji's if hers were so vasly superior from the start?

See wat im sayin bro? her eyes are not so superior as u think an it makes zero sense for it to be so when neji was always shown trainin to master his eyes , unless u think people from the main family all hav higher base an enhanced vision than the side family which also makes no sense.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Really bro? Training to master includes finding out its weakness among other things that neji was "shown" doin.

He was constantly training his vision , dude was so focused on his trainin that he had no interest in seein his new hokage an would much rather train his eyes

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He even did so in battle while we hav no idea if hinata even knew about the blindspot at the time an since neji was shown constantly trainin an learning about his eyes an hinata was not , we can assume
she didn't

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The only thing goin for hinata is that she was "tasked " to see somthing which was 10k away from her while neji was tasked to see things 800m away , usin that to deduce that hinata can see farther is flawed.

Hinata in the war was shown takin over from neji when he overused his byakugan durin lookout duty. If hinata's eyes were so vastly superior then why the heck would they even place neji on the job when hinata's eyes were so superior? why wouldn't she herself take the job from the start an not let neji overuse his inferior eyes to the piont he passed out?

Hinata even said that she cant let neji do "all" the work and that she can do it "too" , which is funny since u believe her eyes are so superior.

Also why would kishi see fit to note the fact that hinata's eyes were in no way inferior to neji's if hers were so vasly superior from the start?

See wat im sayin bro? her eyes are not so superior as u think an it makes zero sense for it to be so when neji was always shown trainin to master his eyes , unless u think people from the main family all hav higher base an enhanced vision than the side family which also makes no sense.

yet his limit throughout part 1 was still 50m.

neji chose to overwork himself in the war. kiba's nose and shino's bugs are just as effective for look out yet neji was the only one going blind.

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Who was used for the long range shintenshin? it wasn't neji.

 

[neosmith500]

yet his limit throughout part 1 was still 50m.

neji chose to overwork himself in the war. kiba's nose and shino's bugs are just as effective for look out yet neji was the only one going blind.




Who was used for the long range shintenshin? it wasn't neji.

His 360 degree range of detection was 50m which is different from far sight.

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Kido was attackin from outside this range. After neji ran even further from kido furtherin the distance between them to well over 60m he was struck by his arrow , he then attacked kido from long range via thread an was able to head directly to kido , findin him with ease.

His far sight vision limit in part1 is unknown along with his part2 self , but its obvious that its well beyond 800m since from his position which was 500m northeast , he was able to direct lee to his tag which was 800m southwest which puts his vision to about 1.3 kilometers at least.

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Also im quessin since hinata along with other nameless hyugas were used for long range shintenshin an not hiashi/neji it means they all hav better long range vision than them? Lol

 

[BLAZE]

Also im quessin since hinata along with other nameless hyugas were used for long range shintenshin an not hiashi/neji it means they all hav better long range vision than them? Lol

Hiashi's Vision $#!ts on them :lol He was able to see faraway town fom battlefield

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[neosmith500]

Hiashi's Vision $#!ts on them :lol He was able to see faraway town fom battlefield

I only said that to counter benjamin who noted that hinata was used for long range shintenshin which he tried to use to cement that hinata's long range vision is better than neji's which by extension means its better than hiashi's who was also not used lol

 

[BLAZE]

I only said that to counter benjamin who noted that hinata was used for long range shintenshin which he tried to use to cement that hinata's long range vision is better than neji's which by extension means its better than hiashi's who was also not used lol

Why does it even matter if Hinata has better byakugan she is $#!t compared to Part 1 Neji nah most Part 1 char rekts her :lol Total wastage of ink

 

[BenjerminGaye]

His 360 degree range of detection was 50m which is different from far sight.

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Kido was attackin from outside this range. After neji ran even further from kido furtherin the distance between them to well over 60m he was struck by his arrow , he then attacked kido from long range via thread an was able to head directly to kido , findin him with ease.

His far sight vision limit in part1 is unknown along with his part2 self , but its obvious that its well beyond 800m since from his position which was 500m northeast , he was able to direct lee to his tag which was 800m southwest which puts his vision to about 1.3 kilometers at least.

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Also im quessin since hinata along with other nameless hyugas were used for long range shintenshin an not hiashi/neji it means they all hav better long range vision than them? Lol

No its not. It's 1 and the same.
The thread is directly connected to kido. All he had to do was follow the thread.

His farthest vision in part 1 is 50 m. He says it himself. Kido says it after analysis.


1.3 K IS STILL LESS THAN 10 K.

It's possible. It's unreasonable to think that just because he's head he has the highest stats in everything.

@Thorfinn: so exactly how far was that town?

 

[BLAZE]

@Thorfinn: so exactly how far was that town?

judging from previous bijuudama far enough

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[neosmith500]

No its not. It's 1 and the same.
The thread is directly connected to kido. All he had to do was follow the thread.

His farthest vision in part 1 is 50 m. He says it himself. Kido says it after analysis.


1.3 K IS STILL LESS THAN 10 K.

It's possible. It's unreasonable to think that just because he's head he has the highest stats in everything.

@Thorfinn: so exactly how far was that town?

Actually its not , the byakugan has many types of vision , one is the 360 degree detection vision where they detect all attacks within a 50m radius around themself and the other is long range scope vision which they use to gather intel from afar.

The detection vision not only sees but also detects attacks which is why neji was able avoid a multitude of daggers from kido

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This type of detection is similar to wen neji expelled chakra into his blindspot and was able to "detect" the arrow

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Tenten further proves that byakugan can see but also detect attacks within a radius around the user which is different than its ability to see far distances

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So unless hinata can see and "sense" attacks from over 10k away then its different.

Kido never said that his farthest vision is 50m , he said that "he accurately detects all attacks within a 50m radius around himself " , which is the range of his 360 degree detection at the time and the best vision he could use against kido who attacked from all sides.

Scans of neji sayin the farthest he can see is 50m??

1.3 K is lower than 10 k yes but its still higher than 800m which most blindsided fans believed to be his limit and its also obvious that 1.3 k is not his limit unless u think that he guided lee to his tag from 500m away at the very "edge" of his visions limit , which is funny.

So all in all im trying to show u that their max vision was never "confirmed" and is most likely to be close or equal due to kishi's statement in the databook an hinata's statement in the war.

Also how could hinata possible hav better vision than hiashi? are u sayin that there are some hyuga's who are born with vastly enhanced range than others with no need to train at it , which includes hinata along with other nameless hyuga's?

This fact was never stated in manga an i feel that would've obiviously been noted at least once if it was the case.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Actually its not , the byakugan has many types of vision , one is the 360 degree detection vision where they detect all attacks within a 50m radius around themself and the other is long range scope vision which they use to gather intel from afar.

The detection vision not only sees but also detects attacks which is why neji was able avoid a multitude of daggers from kido

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This type of detection is similar to wen neji expelled chakra into his blindspot and was able to "detect" the arrow

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Tenten further proves that byakugan can see but also detect attacks within a radius around the user which is different than its ability to see far distances

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So unless hinata can see and "sense" attacks from over 10k away then its different.

Kido never said that his farthest vision is 50m , he said that "he accurately detects all attacks within a 50m radius around himself " , which is the range of his 360 degree detection at the time and the best vision he could use against kido who attacked from all sides.

Scans of neji sayin the farthest he can see is 50m??

1.3 K is lower than 10 k yes but its still higher than 800m which most blindsided fans believed to be his limit and its also obvious that 1.3 k is not his limit unless u think that he guided lee to his tag from 500m away at the very "edge" of his visions limit , which is funny.

So all in all im trying to show u that their max vision was never "confirmed" and is most likely to be close or equal due to kishi's statement in the databook an hinata's statement in the war.

Also how could hinata possible hav better vision than hiashi? are u sayin that there are some hyuga's who are born with vastly enhanced range than others with no need to train at it , which includes hinata along with other nameless hyuga's?

This fact was never stated in manga an i feel that would've obiviously been noted at least once if it was the case.

It was never stated that there is two types of vision. That's something you made up. Especially seeing as how neji activated byakugan and saw all 5 tags at once despite being various degrees away.

You already posted scans of both neji and Kidomaru saying 50 m is limit.