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Yes. Both are arrogant. Both have the superior/inferior complex.(its worse with Vegeta considering his height)
both give little to zero Fck's about their families.

Need more?

Dude none of those things hide the true difference between them. Anyone who has seen Vegeta and Sasuke can see it.
 

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Dude none of those things hide the true difference between them. Anyone who has seen Vegeta and Sasuke can see it.
nope. They are pretty similar.

But we already know about it finally, wheres Bardock, he is always low class saiyan while Minato is Hokage

Wasn't bardock the first to achieve super sayian? So much 4 low class
 

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nope. They are pretty similar.

Sasuke is more similar to Hei than Vegeta

  • Both have spiky black hair with a blue tint.
  • Both are adept swordsmen.
  • Both are very fast (though Sasuke's speed is later negated).
  • Both used to wear headbands, though Sasuke stopped wearing it in Part II.
  • Both, at some point, wanted to seek revenge towards their village.
  • Both have special ocular powers: Hiei's Jagan and Sasuke's Sharingan. However, Hiei's Jagan is a third eye, while Sasuke's Sharingan is used in his two eyes. Also, Hieis eye is artificial while Sasukes is not.
  • Both have the power to control black flames. In Hiei's case, he uses the flames from Makai, while Sasuke uses Amaterasu through his left Mangekyo Sharingan.
  • Just like Hiei is able to use his Dragon of the Darkness Flames, Sasuke can use his Dragon Fire Technique (however, the latter does not require black flames and Sasuke has rarely used the technique). Similarly, Sasuke can shape his black flames in a sword called Susanoo Kagutsuchi. Sasuke can also create sword and dragon like projectiles through lightning as well, using Chidori Katana and Kirin respectively.
 

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Sasuke is more similar to Hei than Vegeta

  • Both have spiky black hair with a blue tint.
  • Both are adept swordsmen.
  • Both are very fast (though Sasuke's speed is later negated).
  • Both used to wear headbands, though Sasuke stopped wearing it in Part II.
  • Both, at some point, wanted to seek revenge towards their village.
  • Both have special ocular powers: Hiei's Jagan and Sasuke's Sharingan. However, Hiei's Jagan is a third eye, while Sasuke's Sharingan is used in his two eyes. Also, Hieis eye is artificial while Sasukes is not.
  • Both have the power to control black flames. In Hiei's case, he uses the flames from Makai, while Sasuke uses Amaterasu through his left Mangekyo Sharingan.
  • Just like Hiei is able to use his Dragon of the Darkness Flames, Sasuke can use his Dragon Fire Technique (however, the latter does not require black flames and Sasuke has rarely used the technique). Similarly, Sasuke can shape his black flames in a sword called Susanoo Kagutsuchi. Sasuke can also create sword and dragon like projectiles through lightning as well, using Chidori Katana and Kirin respectively.

I'm wondering how you listing that discredits him being similar to vegeta.

And the bolded applies for sasuke and vegeta. It dosen't outweigh the similarities listed be me and the other guy on the first page.
 

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nope. They are pretty similar.



Wasn't bardock the first to achieve super sayian? So much 4 low class
The first super saiyan is Goku or Broly, if Bardock is first super saiyan, freeza is long gone and planet Vegita is safe.
 

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The first super saiyan is Goku or Broly, if Bardock is first super saiyan, freeza is long gone and planet Vegita is safe.

No I looked it up. Bardock is the first super sayian. Or at least the super sayian spoken about by freiza's family. Bardock fights chilled, and goes super sayian. Chilled would later on tell the story his decendants eventually making its way to king cold.
 

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I'm wondering how you listing that discredits him being similar to vegeta.

And the bolded applies for sasuke and vegeta. It dosen't outweigh the similarities listed be me and the other guy on the first page.


Lol Dude what you listed there is barely a noticeable similarity between Sasuke and Vegeta. Anyone who has watched these both series could easily tell how different both of these two are. Vegeta's reasoning of badass was not just his looks its was his cocky and arrogant personality. He was like a military man when it came to the way he fought. Sasuke was never like that.

Sasuke shares similarities with Hei character wise and fighting style wise. Whats listed there is proof of that.
 

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I think you all missed my point.
It's much LESS about actual personalities, and MORE about their roles in the series AND in the romantic side.
Naruto is the main guy like Goku, and they both are dense towards someone who loves them. CHECK.
Sasuke is the dark guy turned rival/friend of the main guy like Vegeta, and he gets with the officially smart girl under weird circumstances. CHECK.
Sakura is the officially smart main girl who falls for the dark bad guy like Bulma, despite all odds and making not much sense as well. CHECK.
Hinata is the secondary girl who has a crush on the main guy since childhood like Chichi, and she ends up married to him in the end. CHECK.
I don't see how these FOUR do NOT resemble those FOUR accordingly.
THEY DO.
With obvious differences (it's DIFFERENT STORIES, ya know) - but all of it being not strong enough to NOT see the COLLECTIVE resemblance/tribute.
You keep over-exaggerating the MINOR differences in order to ignore the MAJOR similarities.
 

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Lol Dude what you listed there is barely a noticeable similarity between Sasuke and Vegeta. Anyone who has watched these both series could easily tell how different both of these two are. Vegeta's reasoning of badass was not just his looks its was his cocky and arrogant personality. He was like a military man when it came to the way he fought. Sasuke was never like that.

Sasuke shares similarities with Hei character wise and fighting style wise. Whats listed there is proof of that.

Barley noticable? But listing both of them wearing headbands counts as somthing? What?
Both were sons of the head of their respective clan/races.
Both treat their families like shit.
Both have practically the same personalities even down to complexes. Considering goku/naruto weak yet obsessing over them when their strong.
Both have black hair (since that's a big thing according to u).
Both are avengers.
Both worked for the person that killed their family.
Both plotted to kill said person they worked 4.
Both dislike working with their friend/rival yet perform best with said friend/raival.

Then you're saying sasuke was arrogant due to looks (when that's clearly not the case).. lol
 

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No I looked it up. Bardock is the first super sayian. Or at least the super sayian spoken about by freiza's family. Bardock fights chilled, and goes super sayian. Chilled would later on tell the story his decendants eventually making its way to king cold.

Is this cannon to the manga, if this is cannon why freeza never mentioned about SS Bardock to Goku in original manga, he just terrified to awaken the much talking legend of Super Saiyan in the manga because he think this SS can defeat him, but he never said that he ever faced Bardock in SS form before this. And he surprise with Goku transformation and nothing about Bardock as SS if he faced him before is being mention to Goku here.

And it crazy or stupid for bardock if he not transform to SS to defeat freeza and safe planet vegeta

Even King Cold never speak about SS bardock and he really curious about SS Trunks in original manga

DB hestory manytime is retconn and blindly adit with alien story that not connected well with actual manga. Look at BOG, how is God said Freeza is the worst threat, didnt they aware of Majin buu?
 
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Is this cannon to the manga, if this is cannon why freeza never mentioned about SS Bardock to Goku in original manga, he just terrified to awaken the much talking legend of Super Saiyan in the manga because he think this SS can defeat him, but he never said that he ever faced Bardock in SS form before this. And he surprise with Goku transformation and nothing about Bardock as SS if he faced him before is being mention to Goku here.

And it out of Bardock mind if he not transform to SS to defeat freeza and safe planet vegeta

Even King Cold never speak about SS bardock and he really curious about SS Trunks in original manga

DB hestory manytime is retconn and blindly adit with alien story that not connected well with actual manga. Look at BOG, how is God said Freeza is the worst threat, didnt they aware of Majin buu?

It is canon

Akira is listed as the author and it was manga first b4 being turned into anime.
Heck when I red it it was on ***********.
I never saw the anime adaptation.
 

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It is canon

Akira is listed as the author and it was manga first b4 being turned into anime.
Heck when I red it it was on ***********.
I never saw the anime adaptation.

But do you believe Akira work therem he is showing inconsistency everywhere,

If SS Bardock is exist, why he not defeated Freeza before Goku, his time when freeza blown out the planet Vegeta and goku still a baby is closed.

Freeza will know Goku is Bardock son, but he never mantioned anything about Bardock as SS to Goku, and it impossible if Bardock not turning to SS to fight Freeza for the sake of his Baby and his home planet

Legendary super saiyan, Beerus never mentioned about Bardock even when he saw Goku face for the first time.

For me, cannon is only for original manga, other than that is just meaningless edit by Akira, Akira just making himself look stupid here with retcoon and edit
 

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But do you believe Akira work therem he is showing inconsistency everywhere,

If SS Bardock is exist, why he not defeated Freeza before Goku, his time when freeza blown out the planet Vegeta and goku still a baby is closed.

Freeza will know Goku is Bardock son, but he never mantioned anything about Bardock as SS to Goku, and it impossible if Bardock not turning to SS to fight Freeza for the sake of his Baby and his home planet

Legendary super saiyan, Beerus never mentioned about Bardock even when he saw Goku face for the first time.

For me, cannon is only for original manga, other than that is just meaningless edit by Akira, Akira just making himself look stupid here with retcoon and edit

Akira has been inconsistent the moment power levels exceeded 1mil.

But if you read it you'd know how he became ss.
 

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Akira has been inconsistent the moment power levels exceeded 1mil.

But if you read it you'd know how he became ss.

Yeah, I already read it, it after he survived Freiza blast that blown his home planet

But still, where is Bardock after that if Toriyama really want to connect this Bardock story into Original Manga.

Why he not countering or face with freeza and his family and defeated them with his SS power?

In wiki, it stated that his non SS power level is 10 000 equalling King Vegeta although just a low class saiyan.

That mean his SS level maybe equal with Goku here.

But still I cant find if this story can be connected to original manga and become original cannon not author recognition cannon just because he is involving.
 

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Barley noticable? But listing both of them wearing headbands counts as somthing? What? - It is true. Did Vegeta ever wear a headband?
Both were sons of the head of their respective clan/races. - One was a King of a planet. While the other was a leader of a small group of people. There is a big different there.
Both treat their families like shit. - So Sasuke leaving on a journey is treating his family like shit?
Both have practically the same personalities even down to complexes. Considering goku/naruto weak yet obsessing over them when their strong. - No they do not have the same personalities.
Both have black hair (since that's a big thing according to u). - Black hair with a tint of blue?
Both are avengers. - Show me a manga panel where Vegeta said he was a avenger?
Both worked for the person that killed their family. - In Sasuke's case there were two different people who killed his family. Working for one of them does not mean it is a similar trait. Considering how different everything is. Also you need to take into account the time frame they spent while working for them. Didn't Vegeta stay with Frieza till he got older? In that case Orochimaru seems more of a Frieza than Obito. But even than he was never the killer.
Both plotted to kill said person they worked 4. - Sasuke never worked for Itachi even though he was said to want to kill him. Was Sasuke really plotting to kill Obito?
Both dislike working with their friend/rival yet perform best with said friend/raival. - This could go for any rival though.

Then you're saying sasuke was arrogant due to looks (when that's clearly not the case).. lol - Naw you don't get it. There is a clear difference in arrogance between the two. Vegeta is more open about it and delusional. Heck he would let a villain go in full power thinking he could beat them. Look at Vegeta Vs Cell for example. I have never seen Sasuke do that with any villain. In my view Madara is more like Vegeta than Sasuke.

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Yeah, I already read it, it after he survived Freiza blast that blown his home planet

But still, where is Bardock after that if Toriyama really want to connect this Bardock story into Original Manga.

Why he not countering or face with freeza and his family and defeated them with his SS power?

In wiki, it stated that his non SS power level is 10 000 equalling King Vegeta although just a low class saiyan.

That mean his SS level maybe equal with Goku here.

But still I cant find if this story can be connected to original manga and become original cannon not author recognition cannon just because he is involving.

If you red it you'd know he went back in time upon what was believed to be his death. Chilled is king colds ancestor.
 

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Let's give Kishimoto and his editors credit for going with a proven commodity.
 
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