Hidden villages' security is lame.

[Supermacaquecool]

I'm just having midnight lucubrations: Kabuto stated that in order to perform edo tensei he needed DNA of the choosen person. And we have seen that he summoned ppl of every Hidden village... including some kages... wich I presume their corpse had must been buried in some kind of mausoleum.
Plus, none of the hidden villages were aware of any sneaking.
I know that Kabuto is kinda the perfect spy, but the time with the edo he wasn't suppose to be there under any excuse. I think hidden villages' security is lame.
P.S. I wonder when Kabuto gathered Nagato's DNA... or Itachi's (since both corpses were keeping out of public's knowledge).

 

[Cfighter]

Meh. The only ones to know and/or use the tech were the 2nd Hokage, Oro and Kabuto. I doubt anyone over that time span would have made people watch over buried corpses JUST in case some pedophile wanted DNA... Besides, even if they did, I repeat, we're talking about the 2nd HOKAGE, OROCHIMARU, and KABUTO. They would need an army to stop them from getting the DNA.

 

[ComeOnPpl]

He only needs DNA not necissarily their corpse or even fresh tissue. Remember Orochimaru was seen grave robbing in Khonoha a long time ago? Also Oro had a relationship with Danzo who used to head up root so plenty of chances when it comes to Khonoha shinobi corpses and living.

Meh. The only ones to know and/or use the tech were the 2nd Hokage, Oro and Kabuto. I doubt anyone over that time span would have made people watch over buried corpses JUST in case some pedophile wanted DNA... Besides, even if they did, I repeat, we're talking about the 2nd HOKAGE, OROCHIMARU, and KABUTO. They would need an army to stop them from getting the DNA.

Actually it was stated near the beginning of the show that a shinobi's corpse is a treasure trove of information. Thats one of the reason Anbu operatives recover or destroy dead Khonoha shinobi as their eyes (Sharingan, Byakugan) can be harvested or their chakra system analysed. Interrogation can be done on the recently deceased also to read their memories (Pain corpse & invasion of Khonoha). So there would be very tight security, plus it was developed by the 2nd and his big bro was the 1st so Khonoha would have had a need to defend from an early point.

 

[AverageJoenin]

my guess is they send mediocre chunnins to watch the gates of the villages LOL imo

 

[Urda]

He is an expert Spy. What do you expect? Him to get caught. <LOL>

 

[Supermacaquecool]

He only needs DNA not necissarily their corpse or even fresh tissue. Remember Orochimaru was seen grave robbing in Khonoha a long time ago? Also Oro had a relationship with Danzo who used to head up root so plenty of chances when it comes to Khonoha shinobi corpses and living.



Actually it was stated near the beginning of the show that a shinobi's corpse is a treasure trove of information. Thats one of the reason Anbu operatives recover or destroy dead Khonoha shinobi as their eyes (Sharingan, Byakugan) can be harvested or their chakra system analysed. Interrogation can be done on the recently deceased also to read their memories (Pain corpse & invasion of Khonoha). So there would be very tight security, plus it was developed by the 2nd and his big bro was the 1st so Khonoha would have had a need to defend from an early point.

You're better than me. I not even remembered that a shinobi´s corpse is a treasure trove of info. I agree that Oro had already gathered some DNA, but Kin-Gin bro's? Oro wasn't interested in kyubi but in Uchihas and inmortality.
I don't see how Danzo could have possibly been in contact with any intel of them. They were like a secret in the hidden cloud village due their fate was their path to follow to achieve the perfect jinchuriki (Remeber that has been said that many tried to eat hachibi's tentacles and only died?).

 

[Supermacaquecool]

He only needs DNA not necissarily their corpse or even fresh tissue. Remember Orochimaru was seen grave robbing in Khonoha a long time ago? Also Oro had a relationship with Danzo who used to head up root so plenty of chances when it comes to Khonoha shinobi corpses and living.



Actually it was stated near the beginning of the show that a shinobi's corpse is a treasure trove of information. Thats one of the reason Anbu operatives recover or destroy dead Khonoha shinobi as their eyes (Sharingan, Byakugan) can be harvested or their chakra system analysed. Interrogation can be done on the recently deceased also to read their memories (Pain corpse & invasion of Khonoha). So there would be very tight security, plus it was developed by the 2nd and his big bro was the 1st so Khonoha would have had a need to defend from an early point.

You're better than me. I not eve remembered that a shinobi´s corpse is a treasure trove of info. I agree that Oro had already gathered some DNA, but Kin-Gin bro's? Oro wasn't interested in kyubi but in Uchihas and inmortality.
I don't see how Danzo could have possibly been in contact with any intel of them. They were like a secret in the hidden cloud village due their feat was their path to follow to achieve the perfect jinchuriki (Remeber that has been said that many tried to eat hachibi's tentacles and only died?).

 

[ComeOnPpl]

You're better than me. I not even remembered that a shinobi´s corpse is a treasure trove of info. I agree that Oro had already gathered some DNA, but Kin-Gin bro's? Oro wasn't interested in kyubi but in Uchihas and inmortality.
I don't see how Danzo could have possibly been in contact with any intel of them. They were like a secret in the hidden cloud village due their fate was their path to follow to achieve the perfect jinchuriki (Remeber that has been said that many tried to eat hachibi's tentacles and only died?).

Ah well that bits different, he would have just used his spy skills and moles to obtain information and access to DNA. Remember Oro had spies everywhere and they didnt die with him lol. Kabuto has inherited a lot of resources including shinobi (not that this is touched upon). Plus as he rezzes older and older ppl he would have probably learnt secrets from them too. I think he even states that he couldnt rez the SO6P because he couldnt track down enough information on him to find a corpse.

 

[GreenV]

You're better than me. I not even remembered that a shinobi´s corpse is a treasure trove of info. I agree that Oro had already gathered some DNA, but Kin-Gin bro's? Oro wasn't interested in kyubi but in Uchihas and inmortality.
I don't see how Danzo could have possibly been in contact with any intel of them. They were like a secret in the hidden cloud village due their fate was their path to follow to achieve the perfect jinchuriki (Remeber that has been said that many tried to eat hachibi's tentacles and only died?).

Can't say. Oro seems to be interested in anything.

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[Supermacaquecool]

my guess is they send mediocre chunnins to watch the gates of the villages LOL imo

IoI Now I understand what you mean For some reason I didn't get ya the first time I read it.

Ah well that bits different, he would have just used his spy skills and moles to obtain information and access to DNA. Remember Oro had spies everywhere and they didnt die with him lol. Kabuto has inherited a lot of resources including shinobi (not that this is touched upon). Plus as he rezzes older and older ppl he would have probably learnt secrets from them too. I think he even states that he couldnt rez the SO6P because he couldnt track down enough information on him to find a corpse.

Ok. Info leaks with time. Oro worked his ass off and Kabuto inherited his fortune. Agree with that. Kabuto is indeed skilled as a spy, I just think that it's quite different being a data thief than a grave robber.
I just find hard to accept that they not even had a clue (I mean, where are that fantastic sensors Kishi talk bout? As far as I know only Muu, Zetsus and Kisame in Samehada was able to fool them. And Kabuto didn't got any of them).

 

[Ngylle]

i agreed anyone can infiltrate in a village but kabuto was the perfect spy

 

[ComeOnPpl]

IoI Now I understand what you mean For some reason I didn't get ya the first time I read it.

Ok. Info leaks with time. Oro worked his ass off and Kabuto inherited his fortune. Agree with that. Kabuto is indeed skilled as a spy, I just think that it's quite different being a data thief than a grave robber.
I just find hard to accept that they not even had a clue (I mean, where are that fantastic sensors Kishi talk bout? As far as I know only Muu, Zetsus and Kisame in Samehada was able to fool them. And Kabuto didn't got any of them).

By this point he was already part snake, maybe it hid his chakra signal or something. From the sounds of it he did alot of hands on with the body snatching, besides Spies are meant to be hidden and even Kakashi has stated that Kabuto was very talented (even more so than himself). Kabuto's just better than fodder shinobi so it wouldnt have been too hard

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[Supermacaquecool]

By this point he was already part snake, maybe it hid his chakra signal or something. From the sounds of it he did alot of hands on with the body snatching, besides Spies are meant to be hidden and even Kakashi has stated that Kabuto was very talented (even more so than himself). Kabuto's just better than fodder shinobi so it wouldnt have been too hard

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I never said Kabuto was a Fodder. I said that Hidden village's security is lame.
Good theory with the snake thing, though that's distrubing. If that's so then Sasuke is not that good snake doctor.
Regarding with your second spoiler, Kabuto said they were some corpses that were so rotted he couldn't tell who was it. And that he had more than 1 failure. Just how the hell do they bury their dead?? I thought that a grave was like a label that reveals your id.
Off-topic: I love gir! like your signature.

 

[ComeOnPpl]

I never said Kabuto was a Fodder. I said that Hidden village's security is lame.
Good theory with the snake thing, though that's distrubing. If that's so then Sasuke is not that good snake doctor.
Regarding with your second spoiler, Kabuto said they were some corpses that were so rotted he couldn't tell who was it. And that he had more than 1 failure. Just how the hell do they bury their dead?? I thought that a grave was like a label that reveals your id.
Off-topic: I love gir! like your signature.

Lol no i meant the security was fodder ninja not Kabuto

As for the burial, well just like in the real world. Tomb stones wear away and crumble over time. Eventually you dont know whos buried anywhere given enough time. I imagine Kabuto tried rezzing people from around the general area a powerful shinobi was rumored to be burried and it wound up being the wrong shinobi (or not a shinobi at all). I imagine this is why Oro's followers arnt mentioned under Kabuto's control, he probably used them all as sacrifices XD

And thx, i love gir too =P