Hidden Senju bloodline (proof)

[Cash]

Anyone notice something quite peculiar about this family tree?

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If you recall... the Uchiha's blood line appears to have a lineage of giving birth to brothers... and then the boys get married to woman that are of non-Uchiha descent. This is how the Uchiha blood line stays within Konoha. The women do not possess the Sharringan because only males are born. And the women are married into the family...


Given this... the left side of the "Family Tree" must be from the Senju... HOWEVER... It appears to show that 1 male descendant actually had 2 WIVES!!!!!


This will help add fuel to theories that suggest a hidden Senju bloodline still exists.

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[chopsy16]

Sorry didn't catch wat you are trying to say? How come only males are born? Why not females.. Even though the mother is not an Uchiha how can the kids born can only be males? And what is the left side of the family tree? Which tree?? where was that mentioned in manga?

I personally don't agree that thr were no female Uchiha's with Sharingan..

Reason is simple...

Even though they haven't shown us any females with Sharingan.. I always thought if the females didn't have the sharingan WHY THE HELL did Itachi kill his mother and rest of the females (her lover, aunt) along with the males???? I mean Konoha's and Itachi's main concern was an Uchiha Coup.. caZ Uchiha clan is really powerfull.. so if only males had sharingan.. the females shud actually have been of no threat.. Itachi cud have killed the males and made himself a villian.. and let only sasuke live.. the females wud have thought of Itachi as the culprit and there wud never been a Coup..

But Itachi and Madara did kill everyone? So it must have been that the females were a threat too... Otherwise I don't think Itachi wud have killed his lover too????

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Anyone notice something quite peculiar about this family tree?

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If you recall... the Uchiha's blood line appears to have a lineage of giving birth to brothers... and then the boys get married to woman that are of non-Uchiha descent. This is how the Uchiha blood line stays within Konoha. The women do not possess the Sharringan because only males are born. And the women are married into the family...


Given this... the left side of the "Family Tree" must be from the Senju... HOWEVER... It appears to show that 1 male descendant actually had 2 WIVES!!!!!


This will help add fuel to theories that suggest a hidden Senju bloodline still exists.

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I disagree with the "no women with the sharingan thing". When Madara explained to Sasuke about Itachi in that cave, when he showed talked about his past and said "the Uchiha", there were female looking people with the Sharingan.

 

[Decipher]

I don't get the red line thing though. Please explain that??

 

[Cash]

I don't get the red line thing though. Please explain that??

the red line image is a zoomed in cell of the manga page above it.

Ok. I see your point on the male thing... I was wrong... But

I wanted to show was the zoomed in image... Its a family tree... with the Japanese names vertically...
It is the battle scene between Madara and the 1st Hokage. And the story was that both the Uchiha and Senju decended from the Sage of the 6 Paths, as brothers. I think that the image of the two in battle, was in front of a family tree chart. I was just outlining the lineage lines that they had outlined.
1. It is possible that Madara and his brother are the 2 vertical names next to each other on the right...
2. The three on the left and next to eachother came from 1 marriage & then also the single name to the right of it are from a 2nd marriage between the same individual. (imagine Kureni and Asuma, then later falling for Kakashi... get it?). Does this mean there could be another clan out there, that is of Senju bloodline?
3. The other 3 could be the 1st Hokage, 2nd Hokage, and then maybe the theory of the two of them possibly having a sister that started the "Uzamaki clan" or Whirpool country?

 

[chopsy16]

Oh okay, I understand what you were trying to say... Thanks!

 

[David Walker]

Anyone notice something quite peculiar about this family tree?

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If you recall... the Uchiha's blood line appears to have a lineage of giving birth to brothers... and then the boys get married to woman that are of non-Uchiha descent. This is how the Uchiha blood line stays within Konoha. The women do not possess the Sharringan because only males are born. And the women are married into the family...


Given this... the left side of the "Family Tree" must be from the Senju... HOWEVER... It appears to show that 1 male descendant actually had 2 WIVES!!!!!


This will help add fuel to theories that suggest a hidden Senju bloodline still exists.

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damn i never noticed that that thing behind them was a family tree.

good spot mate

always suspected that naruto was in someway related to the senju. and when madara said naruto also had the will of fire it just reinforced it

will of fire which 1st hokage had and was obv (imo) a skill / ability that was later forgotten and considered to be konhas "will of fire"

 

[RasenShruiken]

wow... this could be important later

 

[twistedlink]

The problem i have with this theory is that it would be amazing for kishi to put in something that cryptic....

great theory, and amazing detail you have looked at chapters to find hints that cryptic, but for all we know, Kishi just made generic looking family trees... just to illustrate the point.

Or, as the OP suggests, is a clue towards a senju clan.

 

[En4G4G3WiThR4G3]

mk....

 

[LastMistBloodline]

Wow, very intersting... Thanks for sharing this, ill store it in my Naruto archives lol. Yeah, as soon as madara metioned the will of fire in naruto i knew there had to be some link to the senju. I think there is another branch of the senju running through konoha... But since were on the topic of clan lineage, where the heck does the Hyuuga clan fit in to the picture? Thats always bugged me... Ive always assumed the Hyuuga clan to be older than Uchiha, maybe even the first clan to possess an Ocular kekke genkai (dojutsu), since Kakashi said in part 1 that they were ancestors to the Uchiha, hmm... I should start a thread about that.

 

[Cash]

Wow, very intersting... Thanks for sharing this, ill store it in my Naruto archives lol. Yeah, as soon as madara metioned the will of fire in naruto i knew there had to be some link to the senju. I think there is another branch of the senju running through konoha... But since were on the topic of clan lineage, where the heck does the Hyuuga clan fit in to the picture? Thats always bugged me... Ive always assumed the Hyuuga clan to be older than Uchiha, maybe even the first clan to possess an Ocular kekke genkai (dojutsu), since Kakashi said in part 1 that they were ancestors to the Uchiha, hmm... I should start a thread about that.

Hyuuga is a lineage of the Sharringan? I forgot that... Maybe the Uchiha is on the left, and Senju on the right then? I do not know...

 

[JohnnyGo]

3. The other 3 could be the 1st Hokage, 2nd Hokage, and then maybe the theory of the two of them possibly having a sister that started the "Uzamaki clan" or Whirpool country?

I'd just like to say that the senju isn't just reserved to the 1st and 2nd hokages, but to many of the leaf's ninja, as the senju were a big clan, just like the uchiha. As such, it really is true that naruto has senju blood, which madara said was real when he talked to naruto saying that he and sasuke would definitly need to fight each other, just like their ancestors.

 

[Shunsui]

impresive

 

[SHARINGAN_USER UCHIHA_ITACHI]

hEy.......gOoD sIgHt dUdE.........!!!!

 

[Ecchidaime]

it would make sense if there were no females in the uchiha caln, and that would also reinforce the theory that they are damned or better said cursed bloodline!!!

 

[rasenshurenken]

Anyone notice something quite peculiar about this family tree?

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If you recall... the Uchiha's blood line appears to have a lineage of giving birth to brothers... and then the boys get married to woman that are of non-Uchiha descent. This is how the Uchiha blood line stays within Konoha. The women do not possess the Sharringan because only males are born. And the women are married into the family...


Given this... the left side of the "Family Tree" must be from the Senju... HOWEVER... It appears to show that 1 male descendant actually had 2 WIVES!!!!!


This will help add fuel to theories that suggest a hidden Senju bloodline still exists.

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totaly agree

 

[Irengninja]

wow thanks for pointing that out

it makes me think what lineage could posibbly Nagato/Pein came from??

 

[izzy89]

So...........am I the only one who got that naruto is a senju after the conversation that he had with madara.....it was clearly determined that a bloodline still exists.....its their fate.

 

[Transparent]

There has already been threads that strongly prove that Naruto comes from the whirlpool country and is related to the senju clan. you have the whirlpool thing on naruto's arm, The name uzumaki mean "whirlpool" and when Naruto was on his journey with Jiraya you can see whirlpool signs hanging from the light poles. Jiraya also talkes about Naruto's mother Kushina Uzumaki was from the "Former" Whirlpool Country, at means the country was taken over in a war, or it fell apart from internal strife and it's lands absorbed by neighboring countries.

We already know that there is a senju bloodline, the mokuton. The question that is interesting to find the answer to "what is the uzumaki bloodline?" the bloodline to hopefully be inherited to naruto from his mother, who came from the whirlpool country. A country before its downfall.
Because if there aren't any uzumaki bloodline limit, then why would they make such an effort in giving clues and giving the uzumaki name and heritage such a big role in the manga?

The former battles between the younger and the older brother's descendants were fought with bloodline limits. I'm highly positive that it so will this time.

The revealing of Naruto's bloodline limit will probably not be shown until a long long time from now, this to keep the story going. Imagine Sasuke fighting Naruto in the next chapter that would put a quick end to the story.

That Naruto is related to the Senju is very much a fact. Both Madara and Jiraya has made that clear. His bloodline limit is just yet to be revealed.

correct me if I'm wrong