[VS] Hidan vs Juugo

who wins?

  • juugo

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  • Hidan

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  • draw

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Obito3631

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1. Here is my proof that he blocks metallic weapons>
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2. Juugo is very fast when he needs to be. As shown when he uses chakra boosters on his back to greatly increase his speed to dodge a V2 Killer Bee who had launched himself toward him. This greatly puts juugo's speed over Asuma and Shikimaru.
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Chakra boosters greatly increase juugo's speed.

Juugo actually isnt that slow to not hit hidan. And hidan will have a hard time getting close to juugo when jugo starts shooting chakra cannons at him. Hidan doesnt have the speed feats to escape juugo's canons at point plant range.
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This will knock hidan out long enought for juugo to rip his arms and head off. Hidan is immortal but that doesnt mean he cant be hurt. He just cant be killed be he had his head riped off twice already. And when that happens he has no control of his body.
This isn't going to block Hidan's scythe, the executioner blade is a one dimensional sword which is easy to counter or block, Hidan can attack indirectly with his scythe whose trajectory is hard to predict, he can modify the trajectory with a metal cable and easily draw his blood. You were unable to provide proofs that his skin could block metalic weapon, all I see in this scan is him blocking it with his fist while the rest of his body is vulnerable therefore Hidan will easily draw his blood.

This isn't going to be of any use for him as the jet itself takes a while to charge, he needed to evade the area of effect of Bee's attack not only a pinpoint attack, once again he is slow.

Jugo won't even get the chance to pinpoint Hidan with his canon, not to mention Hidan could easily survive the blast.

Once again, Jugo isn't landing a hit on Hidan let alone incapacitate him, Jugo loses.
 

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This isn't going to block Hidan's scythe, the executioner blade is a one dimensional sword which is easy to counter or block, Hidan can attack indirectly with his scythe whose trajectory is hard to predict, he can modify the trajectory with a metal cable and easily draw his blood. You were unable to provide proofs that his skin could block metalic weapon, all I see in this scan is him blocking it with his fist while the rest of his body is vulnerable therefore Hidan will easily draw his blood.

This isn't going to be of any use for him as the jet itself takes a while to charge, he needed to evade the area of effect of Bee's attack not only a pinpoint attack, once again he is slow.

Jugo won't even get the chance to pinpoint Hidan with his canon, not to mention Hidan could easily survive the blast.

Once again, Jugo isn't landing a hit on Hidan let alone incapacitate him, Jugo loses.
The executioner blade is just as sharp as hidans sythe, you have no evidence from hidan to disprove it. And the sharp part of the blade made full contact with juugo's hand and it created no damage.

Do you think the executioners blade is truely easy enought to block with just a fist. I would like to see hidan attempt to block a full sing with his fist along and see what happens. It would get bisected.

I did post a scan that showed he was able to block a metalic weapon, you just deny the evidence I put in front of you without any evidence to support you claim.


Once again, Hidan has display no extreme speed feats that would suggest he is any faster than Hebi Sasuke, who juugo was able to fight on equal terms with. Hidan cant simply dodge all Juugo's techniques. And you still havent explained how Hidan will get juugo's blood while he is in beserk mode and make to have time to re-enter his circle. Juugo wouldnt let hidan have a moment to catch his breath in the fight.

And you keep stating that hidan is immortal so juugo cant hurt him. This is fasle. Hidan cant die because is is immortal, but he CAN be hurt, and he CAN have his arms and legs ripped/cleaved from his body. And when that happends he basically looses, because he cant control his body when he is detacth from it, and without his arms he cant complete the ritual.

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The executioner blade is just as sharp as hidans sythe, you have no evidence from hidan to disprove it. And the sharp part of the blade made full contact with juugo's hand and it created no damage.

Do you think the executioners blade is truely easy enought to block with just a fist. I would like to see hidan attempt to block a full sing with his fist along and see what happens. It would get bisected.

I did post a scan that showed he was able to block a metalic weapon, you just deny the evidence I put in front of you without any evidence to support you claim.


Once again, Hidan has display no extreme speed feats that would suggest he is any faster than Hebi Sasuke, who juugo was able to fight on equal terms with. Hidan cant simply dodge all Juugo's techniques. And you still havent explained how Hidan will get juugo's blood while he is in beserk mode and make to have time to re-enter his circle. Juugo wouldnt let hidan have a moment to catch his breath in the fight.

And you keep stating that hidan is immortal so juugo cant hurt him. This is fasle. Hidan cant die because is is immortal, but he CAN be hurt, and he CAN have his arms and legs ripped/cleaved from his body. And when that happends he basically looses, because he cant control his body when he is detacth from it, and without his arms he cant complete the ritual.

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Lol no duh hidan cant block it with his fist .. Jugo has a jutsu that allows him to shape his FIST into anything he wants.. so he can block things with his fist ... U_U Wont save him from hidan who can swing his scythe fast enough to keep up with a sharingan usesr
 

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The executioner blade is just as sharp as hidans sythe, you have no evidence from hidan to disprove it. And the sharp part of the blade made full contact with juugo's hand and it created no damage.

Do you think the executioners blade is truely easy enought to block with just a fist. I would like to see hidan attempt to block a full sing with his fist along and see what happens. It would get bisected.

I did post a scan that showed he was able to block a metalic weapon, you just deny the evidence I put in front of you without any evidence to support you claim.


Once again, Hidan has display no extreme speed feats that would suggest he is any faster than Hebi Sasuke, who juugo was able to fight on equal terms with. Hidan cant simply dodge all Juugo's techniques. And you still havent explained how Hidan will get juugo's blood while he is in beserk mode and make to have time to re-enter his circle. Juugo wouldnt let hidan have a moment to catch his breath in the fight.

And you keep stating that hidan is immortal so juugo cant hurt him. This is fasle. Hidan cant die because is is immortal, but he CAN be hurt, and he CAN have his arms and legs ripped/cleaved from his body. And when that happends he basically looses, because he cant control his body when he is detacth from it, and without his arms he cant complete the ritual.

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You clearly didn't get my point, let me repeat myself.
In the scan you posted Jugo blocked the sword with his fist, you can clearly see the rest of his body isn't protected nor covered and is vulnerable to hidan's attack. The only reason jugo managed to block that attack was because Suigetsu's fighting style is extremely predictable, any attacks with a sword is predictable which is the total opposite of Hidan's fighting style., he can catch jugo off guard and jugo has no way of knowing where his scythe is going to land because Hidan's attacks are almost impossible to predict, Hidan easily draws his blood, period.

That is irrelevant.

I clearly explained and showed my point but aperently you failed to comprehend and counter it, you're the only one to blame, I have already refuted your point, deal with it.

I have already explained how Asuma with 4.5 in speed wasn't able to land a single hit on Hidan even with Shikamaru's assistance, dodging is not about speed for your information, the fact that Hidan is extremely agile and swift make it almost impossible to pinpoint attack him, Asuma said it himself
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there is no way Jugo is landing a hit on Hidan. On the other hand, Jugo has displayed no speed feats whatsoever that would put him on par with Asuma who is an expert at close range fighting with 4.5 in speed and 4.5 in taijutsu who couldn't land a hit on Hidan with SHikamaru's aid, nothing indicate he has the slighest chance of ever touching Hidan.
I have already explained how he's going to get his blood, for the second time exactly, and I have already refuted your non sense of Hidan not being able to re-enter his circle, this is a ridiculous claim, if you can't come up with a valid argument in favor of Jugo then you should just leave.

The only person who was shown being able to decapitate Hidan was Asuma who possesses knives enhanced with futon chakra which is known to have extreme cutting power, last time I checked Jugo didn't have those, nor does he have a trap of thousands of paper bombs. Jugo has no way of incapacitating Hidan, he has no way of winning.
 
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Jūgo would look like he's messing Hidan up (since Jūgo's a pseudo-sage with weird morphing abilities,) but Hidan's plenty durable enough to take a beating and would easily get a scratch and then kill him. It should also be noted that Hidan isn't well-represented by his feats, as Kishimoto said that he had intended to give Hidan more jutsu, but that he was pressured by his editors so Hidan ended up getting the short-end of the stick and thus becoming the runt of Akatsuki. In terms of the author's intent, Hidan wasn't supposed to be far off from the others.
 

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You clearly didn't get my point, let me repeat myself.
In the scan you posted Jugo blocked the sword with his fist, you can clearly see the rest of his body isn't protected nor covered and is vulnerable to hidan's attack. The only reason jugo managed to block that attack was because Suigetsu's fighting style is extremely predictable, any attacks with a sword is predictable which is the total opposite of Hidan's fighting style., he can catch jugo off guard and jugo has no way of knowing where his scythe is going to land because Hidan's attacks are almost impossible to predict, Hidan easily draws his blood, period.

That is irrelevant.

I clearly explained and showed my point but aperently you failed to comprehend and counter it, you're the only one to blame, I have already refuted your point, deal with it.

I have already explained how Asuma with 4.5 in speed wasn't able to land a single hit on Hidan even with Shikamaru's assistance, dodging is not about speed for your information, the fact that Hidan is extremely agile and swift make it almost impossible to pinpoint attack him, Asuma said it himself
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there is no way Jugo is landing a hit on Hidan. On the other hand, Jugo has displayed no speed feats whatsoever that would put him on par with Asuma who is an expert at close range fighting with 4.5 in speed and 4.5 in taijutsu who couldn't land a hit on Hidan with SHikamaru's aid, nothing indicate he has the slighest chance of ever touching Hidan.
I have already explained how he's going to get his blood, for the second time exactly, and I have already refuted your non sense of Hidan not being able to re-enter his circle, this is a ridiculous claim, if you can't come up with a valid argument in favor of Jugo then you should just leave.

The only person who was shown being able to decapitate Hidan was Asuma who possesses knives enhanced with futon chakra which is known to have extreme cutting power, last time I checked Jugo didn't have those, nor does he have a trap of thousands of paper bombs. Jugo has no way of incapacitating Hidan, he has no way of winning.

1. At Bold.
So are you implying that it is impossible for jugo to decapitate Hidan, becuase if you are this conversation is basically pointless, as you think hidan has some unseen durability that has never been seen in the manga.


2. Once again close range fighting is not all Juugo is capable of. He has Chakra Cannons that cover a large radius.


3. Yes during that moment juugo's fist were the only area of his body covered, but he has also shown the ability to cover his entire body with his sage transformation.


Honestly if you think you are right, whatever, i dont even care, juugo is far from being my favroite character. This merely helped my post count.

Congratulations on outlasting my attention span!!! =D
 

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1. At Bold.
So are you implying that it is impossible for jugo to decapitate Hidan, becuase if you are this conversation is basically pointless, as you think hidan has some unseen durability that has never been seen in the manga.


2. Once again close range fighting is not all Juugo is capable of. He has Chakra Cannons that cover a large radius.


3. Yes during that moment juugo's fist were the only area of his body covered, but he has also shown the ability to cover his entire body with his sage transformation.


Honestly if you think you are right, whatever, i dont even care, juugo is far from being my favroite character. This merely helped my post count.

Congratulations on outlasting my attention span!!! =D

It is indeed pointless to continue this conversation if you don't anything about how a human's body work. The manga has shown absolutely no feat of Jugo having the power to decapitate someone, if you think decapitating someone without the required tools and power is easy then you're mistaken.

I assume you never read the manga if you truly believe Hidan has never shown any durability feat?

Tanked the second most powerful futon jutsu at point blank range without taking any damage
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stabbed himself in the leg and it had no effect on him while asuma couldn't stand.
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got a scythe in the guts and wasnt even shaken or injured
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You mean the chakra cannons that have no feats whatsoever? he'd need to restrain Hidan to hit him with that but he can't even land a hit on him, and still Hidan would easily tank it. Moreover it's not even a long range jutsu.

You're making baseless assumptions and giving Jugo ability he never had, he used his Piston Fist technique to increase his fist power and block the sword, he can't grow piston fist on every parts of his body, the rest of his body can easily be pierced by Hidan's scythe.

Clearly I am right and you are wrong, you're not even using facts and you are completely ignorant about Hidan's and Jugo's abilities. You may want to reread the manga, you are out of your league here.
 
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@ricardo .. that was his arm .. not sure about his body .. and since hidan is by far batter then him at CQC he wins
In CM2 his whole body gets the same colour as his arm, i think it wouldn't be strange if his durabiblity augmented overall. That's why i think it can go either way, Jugo can defend himself better than Asuma (his arm his bigger than Asuma's blades) but Hidan's attacks aren't properly linear and he might be able to draw blood while Jugo's body isn't fully transformed.
Jugo has a great shot at winning.
 

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In CM2 his whole body gets the same colour as his arm, i think it wouldn't be strange if his durabiblity augmented overall. That's why i think it can go either way, Jugo can defend himself better than Asuma (his arm his bigger than Asuma's blades) but Hidan's attacks aren't properly linear and he might be able to draw blood while Jugo's body isn't fully transformed.
Jugo has a great shot at winning.
No its not the skin/color that represents his durability its that he has the ability to transform his hand into anything he wants really.. in that scan he simply transformed it into something that could block a blade ...
 

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No its not the skin/color that represents his durability its that he has the ability to transform his hand into anything he wants really.. in that scan he simply transformed it into something that could block a blade ...
I'm just saying, its not impossible, the transformation happens to his whole body while in CM2.
He can also grow appendages in other parts other than his arm, e.g. Chakra Cannons in his back.
 

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Juugo takes this.

Adding to the points that MickNerks has already stated, how is he supposed to scrape him? If Kubikiribouchou cannot even cut his CS2 skin, which may I add would easily slice through any normal person, how is he supposed to get any blood with a petty little spear or his scythe, which Shikamaru noted was only for drawing blood, not fatally wounding?

Even if he did, it would send Juugo insane and Hidan has neither the strength or speed to stop Juugo, he even said himself that he was the slowest attacker in the Akatsuki and if Juugo uses his Chakra Jets to fly straight into Hidan, it will push him off the seal diagram.
 
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