hidan ranking a popularity thing !

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Kakashi loses to Hidan with no knowledge

but what if kakashi managed to finish up the fight without hidan cutting him (witch is possible looking at kakashi's skill and hidan's lack of ... many thing including skill). like i said hidan can be dangerous under specific circumstances. don't get me wrong i love hidan but we are talking powerwise, and he is better with a stronger partner like kakuzu to give him the opportunities to use his ability coz alone he is not gona do much (come on chikamaru keeps bullying him).
 

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I would have loved to see Hidan fight against Gaara ......

Hidan: RAAAAGHRRR I'LL KILL YOU -charges without thinking-
Gaara: .........
Hidan: DIE !!! -swings scythe-
Gaara: ........
Hidan: WHAT!? WHERE IS ALL THIS SAND COMMING FROM!!!???
Gaara: Sabaku Sōsō! ...... well that was easy. -walks away to get some ramen-
 

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but what if kakashi managed to finish up the fight without hidan cutting him (witch is possible looking at kakashi's skill and hidan's lack of ... many thing including skill).
All I read on this sentence was "Im not underratting Hidan but he lacks skills in everything". The problem is Hidan will scratch Kakashi. Hidan's first encounter with Kakashi shown that he had knowledge on Hidan and was keeping him on his toes, now give Hidans fightening style in full since it was ruin (The metallic rope) and Hidan surprise scratch Kakashi:

like i said hidan can be dangerous under specific circumstances. don't get me wrong i love hidan but we are talking powerwise, and he is better with a stronger partner like kakuzu to give him the opportunities to use his ability coz alone he is not gona do much (come on chikamaru keeps bullying him).

Last time I check Hidan bullied Asuma and Shikimaru in their first encounter. Since Shiki gets a chance to get a second chance with prep location and plan of course he is going to take this.
 

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Hidan is number 9 and that is where he is going to stay on people's list...he can't beat ANYONE above him. Besides Zetsu he is easily the weakest of the Akatsuki.
 

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His only weakness is the way he performing those spiritual ceromony, making it too long and any opponent can counter attack him thru that.
 

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The Akatsuki is generally composed by the strongest S-rank missing nin, so of course Hidan is very strong. Tobi and Pain invested a lot of time in choosing powerful members, not weaklings. This premise being made, it's pratically universally recognized that Akatsuki's fighting prowess has a hierarchy.

Tobi, Pain and Itachi are undoubtedly too strong for basically everyone. If you sum all three's battles together you get only one loss (Naruto vs Pain), everyone else has bitten the dust against those, except Minato but those where Tobi's first years. Count that Itachi is stated at 35.5 like Jiraiya, Pain has defeated Jiraiya albeit with the surprise effect (so it must be at 35.5 or higher) and Tobi has to be comparable to Pain.

Sasori and (at his own time) Orochimaru are repeatedly stated to be comparable in power (34.5 and 35), with Orochimaru being a little superior. They are stated to be above most Akatsuki members but the manga implies often than the top three whould just walk over these two without much problems.

Deidara, Kakuzu and Kisame are all very powerful (32.5) and - more importantly - all of them had "surprise moves" that can put them above an unaware opponent. Notice for instance how Kakuzu was stomping Kakashi, Ino and Choji even after his very effective team mate had departed. Kakashi is explicitly stated to be stronger than Kakuzu (34.5) but was still going to fall because he didn't understood Earth-Grudge-Fear too well. But despite being that powerful they just don't compare to the top tiers nor to the high tiers. Which is something they even state by themselves.

It is widely recognized that Konan, Hidan and Zetsu are below those. They're of course much stronger than any everyday shinobi - compare Hidan, 31.5, to shinobi like most of the Konoha 11 who are recognized universally as pretty good in their fields and whose power is ranked around 20. But they aren't on par with what the rest of the Akatsuki can dish out (I am a bit doubtful about Konan though, because we know Hidan stats and Zetsu is explicitly stated to be the weakest, but we don't have many objective measurings on her).

These three "low tiers" also have special reasons to be active Akatsuki members. Konan is a master at camouflaging and protecting Pain's body. Zetsu is a special ops agent like Tobi could only dream. And Hidan is an extraordinary effective partner for Kakuzu and is probably the best partner EVER for just anyone who has a big-scale ninjutsu undiscriminated style of attack, because he's probably the only one who can keep fighting with little problems while under massive friendly fire (except reincarnated shinobis).

Speaking of Hidan specifically, his value outside of partnership with Kakuzu is limited. He is a strong taijutsu user with a very uncommon fighting style, and he is very hard to cripple him with normal wounds, one should just sever his limbs to incapacitate him (again, a drawback nullified by his partnership with Kakuzu). That is effective, but not unbeatable, allows many countermeasures (immobilize with traps or ninjutsu, genjutsu, fuinjutsu, or, well, just sever the limbs). He relies a lot on abusing the Death Possession Blood curse which, as Shikamaru says, it's useless once you saw it once because it requires too many steps and is easy to interfere with, unless one as some sort of backup cover (again: Kakuzu). If you sum this up, Hidan is a very resilient and damaging tank that can sometimes pull a killing trick. There are at least seven Akatsuki members who are clearly above this.
 
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Yeah but other ninjas final attack needs prep time to. His lack of range is offset by his ability to tank attacks. Plus during his fight with kakashi he kept up. And kakashis considered fast!

Could that have something to do with the fact that Kakashi also had to evade attacks from Kakuzu's mask?
Hidan is almost worthless without Kakuzu. With Kakuzu however, he becomes a very dangerous opponent.
 
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