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This same played out fight with the addition of Sasuke's team.

Distance:50 m

Location: Kabuto's cave

Intel: None

Restrictions: Hydra

Intent: Kill
 

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Sasuke has sharingan and better speed than Sakura, besides catching him off guard I don't see how Sasori can do much.

ISWO is a good way to win tho.
 

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Hebi Sasuke VS Sasori has been argued for a while, the real difference here should be his team.
I mean depends on if poison effects Suigetsu, pretty sure that the water he liquifies into stems from his internal body fluids anyways.

I don't see them doing much to Sasori either way.
 

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Sasuke can see where his heart is located. Not to mention he's used to fighting numerous of opponents at once. His blinding speed combined with the white snake power for defense should give Sasuke a med difficulty win. Its arguably he also immune to Sasoris poisen.
 

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Sasuke can see where his heart is located. Not to mention he's used to fighting numerous of opponents at once. His blinding speed combined with the white snake power for defense should give Sasuke a med difficulty win. Its arguably he also immune to Sasoris poisen.
This is true. However, the distance is 50m, and Sasori has aerial mobility - Sasuke cannot fight aerial; he's only gained the capability to do so when he renamed his team: Taka (Hawk) - Hebi was a Snake eg; grounded.

Sasori's aerial advantage can, and will win this for him. If Sasori's Iron Sand couldn't levitate, then Sasuke would win every time.
 

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This is true. However, the distance is 50m, and Sasori has aerial mobility - Sasuke cannot fight aerial; he's only gained the capability to do so when he renamed his team: Taka (Hawk) - Hebi was a Snake eg; grounded.

Sasori's aerial advantage can, and will win this for him. If Sasori's Iron Sand couldn't levitate, then Sasuke would win every time.
When did Sasuke have time to train for hawk summonings and where is the proof Sasori can levitate?
 

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When did Sasuke have time to train for hawk summonings and where is the proof Sasori can levitate?
Sasuke hadn't shown Hawk summons until he transitioned from a Snake to a Hawk. Saying he could summon a Hawk when he was a Snake wouldn't be true.

Sasori's Aerial Capabilities
Althought this shouldn't be doubted anymore, some people still believe that Sasori can't fly so I might as well make this exploit. As we know, Sasori can create any shape out of the Satetsu that he desires. [ ] And we have also seen that the Satetsu can fly. [ ] Sasori even created Satetsu Wings for the Sandaime Kazekage. All Sasori has to do here is create a Satetsu Block, stand on it and fly off. Or he can perhaps make a Satetsu Bird similiar to Deidara's C1 Bird. [ ] Furthermore let's take a look at this right here.

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As stated above, the Satetsu can be changed into any form that can suit the situation. If Sasori up against flying opponents or if he is up against someone who is dangerous on the ground, Sasori will without a doubt create a Satetsu Bird or some other Satetsu shape and fly off. Now since I have established how Sasori can fly, the only thing that is left is to establish how fast would Sasori be exactly. In all honesty, in the air, Sasori would be faster than any other aerial shinobi we have seen in the manga up until now. The ones that are extremely fast in air are without a doubt Deidara and Ohnoki so even Aktsuchi, who was flying, couldn't keep up with them at all. [ ] However Sasori is faster than both of them. It has been stated that Sasori is the one who decides on how fast the Satetsu will be by using the Sandaime's magnetism. [ ] Nothing stops him from making Satetsu even faster. Not to mention that in the manga, Sasori's Satetsu has already shown the speed that could break the sound wall.

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In the end, no one will prove to be as fast as Sasori when it comes to aerial combat.


 

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Sasuke hadn't shown Hawk summons until he transitioned from a Snake to a Hawk. Saying he could summon a Hawk when he was a Snake wouldn't be true.

Sasori's Aerial Capabilities
Althought this shouldn't be doubted anymore, some people still believe that Sasori can't fly so I might as well make this exploit. As we know, Sasori can create any shape out of the Satetsu that he desires. [ ] And we have also seen that the Satetsu can fly. [ ] Sasori even created Satetsu Wings for the Sandaime Kazekage. All Sasori has to do here is create a Satetsu Block, stand on it and fly off. Or he can perhaps make a Satetsu Bird similiar to Deidara's C1 Bird. [ ] Furthermore let's take a look at this right here.

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As stated above, the Satetsu can be changed into any form that can suit the situation. If Sasori up against flying opponents or if he is up against someone who is dangerous on the ground, Sasori will without a doubt create a Satetsu Bird or some other Satetsu shape and fly off. Now since I have established how Sasori can fly, the only thing that is left is to establish how fast would Sasori be exactly. In all honesty, in the air, Sasori would be faster than any other aerial shinobi we have seen in the manga up until now. The ones that are extremely fast in air are without a doubt Deidara and Ohnoki so even Aktsuchi, who was flying, couldn't keep up with them at all. [ ] However Sasori is faster than both of them. It has been stated that Sasori is the one who decides on how fast the Satetsu will be by using the Sandaime's magnetism. [ ] Nothing stops him from making Satetsu even faster. Not to mention that in the manga, Sasori's Satetsu has already shown the speed that could break the sound wall.

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In the end, no one will prove to be as fast as Sasori when it comes to aerial combat.

That doesn't prove he can it for flight or control the sand in the way Gaara does. Sasuke only changed the name of his team. It had nothing to do with his abilties as you see he still summoned a snake in war when he needed it.
 

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That doesn't prove he can it for flight or control the sand in the way Gaara does. Sasuke only changed the name of his team. It had nothing to do with his abilties as you see he still summoned a snake in war when he needed it.
... The scans, as well Databook say Sasori can control the Iron Sand in anyway he wants. I'm simply saying Sasuke learned the Hawk summoning when he transitioned from a Snake to a Hawk. Hence why Kishimoto felt the need to include a Hawk in the Sasuke vs Danzo fight.
 

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... The scans, as well Databook say Sasori can control the Iron Sand in anyway he wants. I'm simply saying Sasuke learned the Hawk summoning when he transitioned from a Snake to a Hawk. Hence why Kishimoto felt the need to include a Hawk in the Sasuke vs Danzo fight.
I'm sure that might be what it says but going by Sasoris fighting style that not how he seems to handle his opponents.
Tobi was monitoring Sasuke and wondered when he learned it. We can conclude he learned it before encountering any Akatuski as Hebi because Sasuke had no training arcs in p2.
 

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Sasuke can see where his heart is located.
Why do people still use this argument for any Sharingan users against Sasori's anatomy?

Human puppets have a built in chakra source. Its own "engine" in a sense:

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The chakra link is completely separated from the heart. The only thing the heart does it gives the commandments to active the chakra link given inside a human puppet.

Sasori's body is as complex as Kakuzu's, which Kakashi's Sharingan also failed to comprehend his anatomy. It would be no different.
 

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This same played out fight with the addition of Sasuke's team.

Distance:50 m

Location: Kabuto's cave

Intel: None

Restrictions: Hydra

Intent: Kill
isn't sasuke poison proof?
his react speed should be able to deal with the fodder puppets, his cs2 wings should be able to block off the flames and use that chidori sword combo to charge at sasori at fast speed. idk
Pretty even match. Sasori has the advantage slightly due to aerial capabilities.
But they're fighting in a cave. and i thought cs2 sasuke could fly/glide as well.
 
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isn't sasuke poison proof? he should be able to slice through the puppets like butter based off his sword skills and his cs2 wings should be able to push off the flames.


But they're fighting in a cave. and i thought cs2 sasuke could fly/glide as well.
Orochimaru made Sasuke immune to a plethora of poisons, but due to having no knowledge of which ones, we cannot deduce rather Sasuke is immune to Sasori's version.

If they're in a cave that's worse for Sasuke, seeing as Sasori's arsenal can be AoE devastating. Sasuke can glide, but he cannot fly.
 

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Why do people still use this argument for any Sharingan users against Sasori's anatomy?

Human puppets have a built in chakra source. Its own "engine" in a sense:

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The chakra link is completely separated from the heart. The only thing the heart does it gives the commandments to active the chakra link given inside a human puppet.

Sasori's body is as complex as Kakuzu's, which Kakashi's Sharingan also failed to comprehend his anatomy. It would be no different.
Good point but that wouldn't stop the sharingan from observing his actions. Sasori can be dangerous if he moves his heart around before Sasuke can make the final blow but Sasuke can watch where it goes.
 

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Sasuke can see where his heart is located. Not to mention he's used to fighting numerous of opponents at once. His blinding speed combined with the white snake power for defense should give Sasuke a med difficulty win. Its arguably he also immune to Sasoris poisen.
You can't argue that he's immune to the poison lol.
 

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CM2 Sasuke can fly too :|
This is true. However, the distance is 50m, and Sasori has aerial mobility - Sasuke cannot fight aerial; he's only gained the capability to do so when he renamed his team: Taka (Hawk) - Hebi was a Snake eg; grounded.

Sasori's aerial advantage can, and will win this for him. If Sasori's Iron Sand couldn't levitate, then Sasuke would win every time.
 
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