The attack itself does have feats, we've seen how powerful the combined explosion of it and an equally powerful rasengan are. You scale that to the combined power of a normal rasengan and normal chidori and that tells you the difference between a normal chidori and black chidori.
Your comparing an attack from part 1 to what it could be in part 2 because it clashed with a rasengan and made an explosion. Chidori is a penetrative attack, it does not explode, so the explosion was from from Kyuubi Rasengan, not Sasuke's power. The attack itself couldn't even
It doesn't matter if he didn't use it in part 2 unless you are arguing that him not using it is some kind of evidence that he can't use it, to which I'd ask "why"?
I said his chidori was black and Naruto's Rasengan was red/purple was to create hype and suspense. The reason I believe this is because these two techniques have not been seen again since that point. Naruto's Rasengans when influenced by Kurama's chakra is still blue and Sasuke's Cs2 Chidori was also still blue in part 2. If the influence of those powers (cs2 and Kyuubi) is what made the techniques the color they are then why was it never shown in those colors again? Even with them using those abilities several times while influenced by those powers, there was no black chidori and no red rasengan, ever. The premise of us not seeing these techniques anymore simply because the users didn't want to use them is shit compared to my premised that it was just for hype and suspense(which Kishi does) especially when I link evidence of them being in those same forms yet no black chidori or red rasengan.
Sasuke wins mid diff in the first scenario. CS2 gives the durability to block Ay's attacks in Base and Sasuke should have the speed advantage here since Ay lacks his Armor, so this ends with him running Ay through with Chidori. Scenario 2 is the same. He can still block Ay's attacks, but the speed is more equal here, and a black Chidori>>>a normal Chidori, so it pierces Ay and kills him since the regular one got through his armor and left a flesh wound.
V2 beats him though. He'd Shunshin to Sasuke and Liger Bomb him into oblivion. Without Susanoo he isn't tanking that.
lmmfao You seriously believe Hebi stands a chance against V1 Aye? Deidara was able to react to a "blitz" from sasuke no diff, Aye is laughing at any speed attempts! Sasuke is not reacting to any Blitz from V1 Aye in motion period! He isn't Tanking a blow that sent V2 JUGO out of commission no diff! And please don't say sasuke has better endurance then V2 Juugo...
But forreal forreal you think Hebi stands a chance? V1 wins no diff, v2 is super ultra rape action 101! And "V2" is the same as "V1" but simply has more chakra invested into it.
Your comparing an attack from part 1 to what it could be in part 2 because it clashed with a rasengan and made an explosion. Chidori is a penetrative attack, it does not explode, so the explosion was from from Kyuubi Rasengan, not Sasuke's power. The attack itself couldn't even
....no im comparing an attack from part 1 to another attack from part 1 based on the energy yield that both attacks possess, and from there we'd know the difference between a normal chidori and a black chidori.
Chidori does explode when it hits a rasengan we've seen exactly that on multiple occasions. Chidori sometimes
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else how could it have made a hole
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Even if chidori didn't explode, it's completely irrelevant to the point since then we'd know the rasengan caused the explosions in both clashes and since chidori = rasengan, we would just compare the power of the kyuubi rasengan to the base one which would give us an idea of how powerful a black chidori is vs a base one.
The link you gave is in no way shape or form the black chidori's full power, that's the black chidori after it clashed with naruto's kyuubi rasengan losing so much power that it's no longer black just like naruto's rasengan is no longer even a ball.
I said his chidori was black and Naruto's Rasengan was red/purple was to create hype and suspense. The reason I believe this is because these two techniques have not been seen again since that point. Naruto's Rasengans when influenced by Kurama's chakra is still blue and Sasuke's Cs2 Chidori was also still blue in part 2. If the influence of those powers (cs2 and Kyuubi) is what made the techniques the color they are then why was it never shown in those colors again? Even with them using those abilities several times while influenced by those powers, there was no black chidori and no red rasengan, ever. The premise of us not seeing these techniques anymore simply because the users didn't want to use them is shit compared to my premised that it was just for hype and suspense(which Kishi does) especially when I link evidence of them being in those same forms yet no black chidori or red rasengan.
If kishi simply changes the asthetic appearance of the rasengan or chidori for hype/ suspence, then it's irrelevant to the power difference he's try to convey from the difference in asthetic appearance. Therefore, if we assume kishi did change the appearance just for hype/suspence then that doesn't do anything for your argument, all it would show is that a CS2 chidori in part 2 wouldn't look black, but it would still be far stronger than a normal chidori just like the black one in part 1.
However, I don't even agree with what you've typed about sasuke not using the black chidori in part 2 = hype and suspense since he never needed to use it in part 2. Sasuke needed to use his maximum powered chidori in order to overpower naruto's maximum powered rasengan which is why he used it in part 1. In part 2, he doesn't need a maximum powered chidori to get through deidara's clay birds, to kill itachi or to shock himself, as a normal chidori would be sufficient, therefore there's no need for him to do so.
next, naruto's white rasengan that he used at VoTe can be explained by kishi simply changing the artwork of the rasengan. In part 1, the rasengan was simply
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and has swirls in the middle. Not only that but naruto never attempted to make a rasengan while in his KN1 form so there's no positive evidence there.
Finally, your explanation breaks the fourth wall and therefore in the lack of some kind of compelling reason, your explanation isn't the more plausible one.
You can't just wave off Sasuke possessing a much more powerful chidori just because you feel evidence is insufficient. If you do that, what stops anyone from claiming insufficient evidence for any kind of argument? Nothing as the line or standard for what is considered insufficient evidence is just arbitrary. The fact is that CS2 Sasuke's max powered chidori is far more powerful than sasuke's base chidori, and if you don't believe it's strong enough to kill Ei, you have to give an argument for that, you can't just say 'it's featless' or 'we don't know' since you believe it's not strong enough and therefore that belief has to be based on some kind of evidence unless it's an irrational belief.
A Raiton-enhanced Kusanagi blade should be able to definitely pierce Ay's V1 cloak and Sasuke's more than able to keep up with his speed in that version.
lmmfao You seriously believe Hebi stands a chance against V1 Aye? Deidara was able to react to a "blitz" from sasuke no diff, Aye is laughing at any speed attempts! Sasuke is not reacting to any Blitz from V1 Aye in motion period! He isn't Tanking a blow that sent V2 JUGO out of commission no diff! And please don't say sasuke has better endurance then V2 Juugo...
But forreal forreal you think Hebi stands a chance? V1 wins no diff, v2 is super ultra rape action 101! And "V2" is the same as "V1" but simply has more chakra invested into it.
Ay needs V2 Shunshin to escape Sharingan's vision. Otherwise he can be tracked. Escaping Sasuke's vision is what let him escape Amaterasu when they fought, so Sasuke isn't getting blitzed here. Jugo got hit because he thought he was dead, and because he's no where near the Raikage when it comes to speed. Sasuke has Sharingan, and can track his movements, and he won't make Jugo's mistake of thinking that he killed him, so Ay isn't going to hit him with that blow. If he comes at him with that, Sasuke evades and counters with a black Chidori for the finish.
If v1 wins it all, it definitely isn't no diff. Lol, not a chance.
I feel both Cs2 durability and this black chidori is being overrated here.
Cs2 isn't tanking nor blocking any cutting attacks from A, Also hasn't A already shat on Cs durability when he punched a whole into juugo?.
Plus Black chidori is featless, even if it does penetrate A's armor, It's not a given it will kill him right away or if it would fully penetrate at all. If it doesn't kill him out right, Sasuke's hand would be stuck in his chest and raikage would just pick him and a raiger bomb him like last time.
even if it does penetrate A's armor, It's not a given it will kill him right away or if it would fully penetrate at all. If it doesn't kill him out right, Sasuke's hand would be stuck in his chest and raikage would just pick him and a raiger bomb him like last time.
Only wins scenario 1, where the raikages armor is restricted,
V1 A effortlessly tanks all of Sasuke and Hebis attacks, and uses liger bombs to end sasuke seeing how he doesnt have susanoo to protect him here, his CS2 durability is comparable to Juugos, which got shat on by A in canon,
Suigetsus liquifying is countered by A's raiton affinity
V2 A, stomps them, they wont be able to even see him, before they realise their heads are chopped off
Ay needs V2 Shunshin to escape Sharingan's vision. Otherwise he can be tracked. Escaping Sasuke's vision is what let him escape Amaterasu when they fought, so Sasuke isn't getting blitzed here. Jugo got hit because he thought he was dead, and because he's no where near the Raikage when it comes to speed. Sasuke has Sharingan, and can track his movements, and he won't make Jugo's mistake of thinking that he killed him, so Ay isn't going to hit him with that blow. If he comes at him with that, Sasuke evades and counters with a black Chidori for the finish.
If v1 wins it all, it definitely isn't no diff. Lol, not a chance.
You are i'll informed; first off he simply pumped more chakra in his armour not created a different armor. "Fans" call it "V2" to let it be known he got "faster", but in reality it is still Lightning body flicker jutsu. Keep in mind EMS Madara only had time to
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and not Counter attack like sasuke would magically do. Keep in mind Sauske couldn't react
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and this was indeed "V1", what is the excuse here?
The only thing Sasuke has going for him in this match is the pain tolerance granted from his State 2. Besides that he is not taking a Blinding elbow from behind. There seems to be this misconception that all uchihas no matter what see's any and all movements no matter the situation. No! The opponent has to be in their field of vision and the uchiah has to keep track. For example:
Sasuke has Sharingan activated and is staring at Aye.
Aye then blitz a circle around sasuke towards his right.
Sasuke has to then do what?
A. Match his foot speed with his Neck speed
B. Teleport his neck behind his body, or teleport his entire body instantly to face behind him...
C. Try and turn his dead about 90 degrees top before then twisting his body
(Answer is c) But because C is too slow and not instant like The hyugas Rotation to face any direction, he falls prey to a blind side attack. this is what Chiyo stated you need to do:
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And to further prove this I'll break it down to what
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that goes further then what ppl may think it means.
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In the spoiler above^^, The purpose is to show, once kakashi lost SIGHT of Zabuza's Location he had to then try and lock on to Zabuza again. But because of the lack of Frontal Vision he was best in Taijutsu and then caught in water prison.
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With the above Scan it's purpose is to show since kakashi was not locked on to Zabuza, he didnt notice he was behind him till Zabuza let it be know.
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Right here shows That when kakashi turned his back on Kakuzu he was attacked! Why is that? It's because his sharingan (whether he was aware or not "sharingan predicts everything" uchiha supporters claim) couldn't help him because kakuzu wasn't in his line of sight.
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Above shows Deidara wasn't in his visions line of sight so he was able to grab Sasuke. This scans purpose is to show Sharingan has to be focused on something to be aware of it.
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The scan above shows that since sasuke had no idea where or when Itachi was going to attack Itachi managed to surprise him then attack him. This is the same Hebi sasuke keep in mind, and itachi didn't do anything too fancy that the sharingan couldn't pick up. The purpose of this scan isn't to show itachi's crow jutsu but to show The sharingan has to lock on then react accordingly.
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The scans above purpose isn't to talk about the fight, but rather what happened. Kakshi should had been able to predict the body if he was focus, and ofc he would have reacted accordingly. But since his vision was not focused on the other opponent he didn't know. This is basically to show they focus and stay focus.
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The scans above purpose is to show that since a blitz happened behind he couldn't and didn't (manga fact) react accordingly. Ofc he had Susanoo just in case, but the point was to show he didn't react most likely because he lost them in his initial blitz from his vision.
I can literally go on and on but I hope you get my point. My point is a sharingan may be able to track react blah blah, but if the opp gets away/block/pop out of their vision (not Linear frontal assaults) they are susceptible to attacks and being hit. And lets say they do manage to react to the blind spot from behind, they can only dodge (unless susanoo or other back abilities) and try not to get knocked off. I can break it down even further if you don't get what I'm saying bruh.
p.s. I didn't see it was the entire Hebi group, I thought it was just sasuke. In that case it's mid at V1 and no-low diff in V2 spam. My bad bro.
Not more so than combatants like Nidaime Mizukage, Temari, Tsunade, Hidan, etc. You should read up a bit more on them. Even guys like Kitsuchi, Mifune, and Darui and criminally underrated.
Not more so than combatants like Nidaime Mizukage, Temari, Tsunade, Hidan, etc. You should read up a bit more on them. Even guys like Kitsuchi, Mifune, and Darui and criminally underrated.
Yeah, I've seen a lot of good posts from people supporting some of those characters. Haven't seen a lot for Mifune, Darui and Kitsuchi though. Tsunade is probably the worst case IMO.
I agree with you on that,
and killer bee is underrated as well,
Yup. I mean, he's the only other Perfect Jin beside Naruto. He should get more credit than people give him. Its all because of his fight with Taka..lol.
