Hebi Sasuke was not kage level!!!
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Obito the supreme jin
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Deidara was able to break out because he trained his left eye to counter genjutsu after battling with Itachie. Tsunade doesn't have any practice against genjutsu. If Hebi Sasuke used the same level n genjutsu on her it would get her. Tsunade can't break Hebi Sasuke's genjutsu. When he used genjutsu against Sakura it was a standard sharingan genjutsu, something Hebi Sasuke could have replicated.
Sasuke needs to warm up the atmosphere to create the cumulus clouds to use Kirin. The desert receives very little rainfall and Sasuke can use that small chance to his advantage.As long as it is warm, which the desert is more than warm, it is scorching in there Sasuke has more than a chance to use Kirin there.
Ero sennin jiraiya
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Nobody said hes invinceable in the desert, but he obviously has an advantage there since he literally has control over the ground they are standing on.Man people on here are talking like Gaara in a desert is just invincible or something.
I was simply saying hebi sasuke would probably lose to gaara in the desert. Sasuke with MS would win the fight. Essentially gaara > hebi sasuke but taka sasuke has what is needed to get around gaara's advantage to win. I dont think that is unreasonable at all.
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Honestly out of the 3 sannins i think tsunade is the most capable to break gen the fastest just because of her skill in CC. Sakura fell for it cause shes sakura lol
Deidara didn't and couldn't break through it. He only managed to develop the level of perception needed to see through the genjutsu through experience battling Itachi and training his eye to counter it, but he never broke out of it. I don't understand how training your eye to handle a specific situation would even increase your overall chakra control anyways.
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Cuz they know that fact ends all debate. Gaara lost saving someone don't count. Hebi sasuke used oros summoning to live and gets credit lol fanboys
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LoZelda101
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You're ****ing retarded if you think kage lvl deidara would lose simply because of an elemental disadvantage. **** out of here.
Kurosaki815
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Lmao....... Seriously?........ That's gotta be the shittiest piece of crap I've heard in like two weeks..... Just name one kage that Sasuke would have been able to beat at that time. Past, present or future
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First off alt. Being kage lvl dont = capable of killing any kages, it's just a rank. Secondly there is tiers, low-mid-high tier kages. Thirdly if deidara is capable of defeating gaara in his own turf and yet he couldn't defeat sauce even W/ tobi's help that is kage lvl. Same logic applied to sage mode naruto. Defeating pain put him into kage lvl. :lol
He never broke out of the Genjutsu.
He can't see through his sand; he uses a remote eye to do so. Genjutsu specialists like Chee and Orochimaru can't break out of Sasuke's Genjutsu, but Gaara can? He also easily suppressed nine-tails, defeated Orochimaru on his own turf and Chee. Shit Genjutsu indeed.
Gaara fans at it again. Hyping the hell out of a loser who lost to Deidara that didn't use a single high tier Clay on him, and got defeated by a bunch of homing birds. Do show me proof of Onoki countering Sharingan Genjutsu. I'll wait.
He was getting melted? Are you for real? He would have died if he was "getting melted." He deflected ALL of hers and Chojuro's attack(s) with small acid burns on his arm. The fight never culminated, so you don't know what would have happened.
Chojuro ... what? Now you are just approaching the domain of stupidity. He had Susanoo on. The attack never connected with his body. Kindly, stop pulling nonsense out of your hindquarters and bring out a scan. Helped in what way? Jugo only got in the way and Chee was taken out by Sasuke without anyone's help. He deflected Darui's attack without anyone's help, and took Ae on without anyone's help.
Show me a scan where he got more than a scratch on his face. You sound like a desperate little whiny Naruto fanboy at this point who is apt at making fictions. Show me proof. Hebi Sasuke has his own brand of strengths. Show me how Ae counters Genjutsu. How Onoki, Mei or Gaara do. I can wait.
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not to mention his skillset compared to someone like tsunade. has a boss summon like her, diversified ninjutsu unlike her, speed above her and a sharingan to booth in addition to CM lv 1 and 2 alongside orochimarus abilities like white snake healing and snake summons yet she is kage lv but sasuke is not? rubbish. then there are the feats as well.
in a fight, he smokes tusnade and he can beat mei as well just to answer that guys question.
Deidara not being at kage tier is a joke and your attempts at degrading him is pitiful. he was at more of a disadvantage than gaara, he didnt go all out as he was there to capture and not kill thats much harder as he himself states.
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hence why he didnt use any of his high tier clay jutsus he unleashed against sasuke. added to this is the fact that gaara had the location advantage due to it being in the desert so he had access to as much sand as he wished. still lost.
and your points are weak, manda was sasukes summon , its part of his arsenal so saying without manda is completely pointless. not to mention he is the one who summoned and controlled manda and used it to shield himself, its not like it randomly jumped in on its own and saved sasuke. he blew himself up because he was pushed to doing so we are saying the same thing. the fight wouldnt have even gotten to that point if sasuke was out for the kill otherwise deidara would have received a
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. sasuke also previously casually shat on a 4 man team which inlcuded a seasoned anbu ninja who is jounin lv without the need to tap into cm. orochimaru had to save them. he is not kage lv? i think you and the op are having a laugh
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LoZelda101
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Agreed. People severely underestimate hebi sasuke. Personally i blame itachi, the guy can make anyone look like a joke.
Gaara didn't have an advantage? Haha, this base.
Deidara didn't even use a single high tier enhanced Clay on him (C1, C2 or C4, which he did on Sasuke). When he used C3 on the village, he was already low on chakra from having to deal with a bunch of clay birds that weren't even at C1:
And gets taken out like a trash bag with a small amount of chakra mixed with sand to create an explosion. So, basically, he used his most high caliber jutsu on Sasuke, and Sasuke still defeated him despite being at a major disadvantage. He never did so on Gaara. Gaara is at a Major advantage, Deidara at a major disadvantage, as like Sasuke, he wanted him alive ... Gaara still loses so badly. But Deidara and Sasuke aren't Kage tier, but this guy who got outsmarted like a chum, got beat despite being on his own turf (desert) ... somehow is?
Gaara wankery is so nauseating, when Gaara was beaten before he even pulled out that sand to defend the town as Deidara had left an unenhanced clay trump card within his absolute defense. He made a little chum out of the stupid Kazekage.
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Deidara didn't even use a single high tier enhanced Clay on him (C1, C2 or C4, which he did on Sasuke). When he used C3 on the village, he was already low on chakra from having to deal with a bunch of clay birds that weren't even at C1:
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And gets taken out like a trash bag with a small amount of chakra mixed with sand to create an explosion. So, basically, he used his most high caliber jutsu on Sasuke, and Sasuke still defeated him despite being at a major disadvantage. He never did so on Gaara. Gaara is at a Major advantage, Deidara at a major disadvantage, as like Sasuke, he wanted him alive ... Gaara still loses so badly. But Deidara and Sasuke aren't Kage tier, but this guy who got outsmarted like a chum, got beat despite being on his own turf (desert) ... somehow is?
Gaara wankery is so nauseating, when Gaara was beaten before he even pulled out that sand to defend the town as Deidara had left an unenhanced clay trump card within his absolute defense. He made a little chum out of the stupid Kazekage.
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