Sasori starts in Hiruko, it's a stomp. Saying otherwise implies you know nothing about Sasuke, despite being a "fan".
If Sasori started in base, with Sandaime Kazekage as I stated earlier than it wouldn't be a stomp, because then Sasori would be able to become aerial quickly. This isn't the case as Sasuke's pressure would prove to much.
lol at arguing that Doton is still in effect with Jiton, when KKG are made by just needing its chakra nature to make a new element only.
lol at arguing Katon or Raiton would demagnetize a jutsu that doesnt follow real life logic (not when Raiton doesnt even produce heat to begin with, shown by every single hit it has made in the manga). Speculating the KKG's actual curie point. Base on the fact that we know Shukaku (origin of the Jiton KKG) moves/jutsus had shown zero issues with, including explosive heat.
lol at Sharingan seeing Sasori's core, when his whole body doesnt even follow the laws of nature. Which canonically the Sharingan can't comprehend via Kakaski vs Kakuzu (having multiple actual human hearts attach to Jingou). And the fact that Sasori puppet body, along with other human puppet, have their own chakra engine built separately.
lol at people still using Sakura/Chiyo match up to justify everything when Iron Sand can be used differently by match up, as canonically stated.
Its things like this that makes this repeated match up not interested to discuss anymore.
lol at arguing that Doton is still in effect with Jiton, when KKG are made by just needing its chakra nature to make a new element only.
lol at arguing Katon or Raiton would demagnetize a jutsu that doesnt follow real life logic (not when Raiton doesnt even produce heat to begin with, shown by every single hit it has made in the manga). Speculating the KKG's actual curie point. Base on the fact that we know Shukaku (origin of the Jiton KKG) moves/jutsus had shown zero issues with, including explosive heat.
lol at Sharingan seeing Sasori's core, when his whole body doesnt even follow the laws of nature. Which canonically the Sharingan can't comprehend via Kakaski vs Kakuzu (having multiple actual human hearts attach to Jingou). And the fact that Sasori puppet body, along with other human puppet, have their own chakra engine built separately.
lol at people still using Sakura/Chiyo match up to justify everything when Iron Sand can be used differently by match up, as canonically stated.
Its things like this that makes this repeated match up not interested to discuss anymore.
Everything else is spot on. But this portion doesn't make as much sense. Smaller objects are easier to manipulate through magnetic force, while larger constructs are much more complex. If he could've manipulated his Iron Sand with the same force/properties as he did the needles he would've.
This doesn't refute the fact, that Sasori is quite possibly able to attain an aerial state on Iron Sand.
Never stated he would create large constructs to move around on. All he need is a thin pizza like platform and boom! Seeing his body mass is wood and light, moving with the sand is/should be easy. or simply create iron balls and attach them to his body to allow easy movement, since he is light.
sasori wins mid diff.
sasori can't beat oro, but I don't see the name ''orochimaru'' in the title so theres my vote
he overwhelms sasuke w/ sand or 100 puppets.
all his metal weapons are useless
his ka'ton is only a futile, brief defense that leaves him open for a blindside attack
and his rai'ton isn't as tactile or of the scale as iron sand & is useless against electrical insulators/non-conductive wooden puppets.
even if sasuke is immune to poison thru 0ro, he stil gets outlasted or bludgeoned to death as sasori is capable of flight & unlike deidara he can zone & his flight isn't linear.
its sasori infinite stamina vs ''hebi'' sasuke low stamina also
You've never been a good fan of sasori ever (im sure someone can look up your record on the site). You've always been a piss poor akatsuki supporter that piggy backs.
Again, you know nothing about puppet users the fact you brought up chiyo's speed. lmao that is literally puppet 101! And also fail to realize how the sharigan would work in this fight let alone sharingan basics. To predict, he would need to read muscle movements, sasori would never leave his hands exposed when fighting an uchiha (that everyone knows how they fight). He would be using basic instincts (which he is good at) to dodge/avoid.
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This was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy before the land mines and yet he was still tagged when he was the first one to advance upon tobi and deidara (Fact). Try again akatsuki "fan"
The landmines being there meant nothing overall seing he had the ability to see them and move away from there location! He knew where he could run and not run, nor did he care once he seen where they were (
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) Sasuke's entire plan from the start was to figure out if his lightning defuses the bombs and how to get deidara off that damn dragon (since he can fire off bombs before sasuke can move in the air.
Then you say sasori couldn't control his iron sand after it took flight?
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What the hell are you even read? Clearly he controls his iron sand perfectly and makes it float in mid air. Are you seriously saying his sand is not air born when the manga literally shows it floating in.... AIR!?! lMAO Just stop! He can move his iron sand past the speed of sound casually,a nd thus he himself can move at the speed of sound casually thanks to his iron sand.
You're a moron :lol its painful to read your posts.
Sasuke was charging Deidara when that missile was fired hence why it was harder to avoid as well as the fact that as he mentions in that scan it was guided. We can clearly see him move quickly to avoid it right away but it followed him, not to mention he still managed to escape with zero injuries. You can't even read your own scans that you are posting .-.
If you learnt how to read you would be able to see multiple times in which if Sasori had manipulated the IS's direction it would have benefited him greatly.
-When Sakura launched one back at him he could do nothing to stop its momentum
-Everytime he used the IS it was in one direction only when moving at fast speeds
Could he levitate in the air? Absolutely, can he fly around like Deidara in the air? Absolutely not and if you think so you're a bigger moron than everyone already thought you were.
He doesn't have to read handmovements btw, he could tell by the way the chakra strings are moving.
Speed of sound? Yeah because Sasuke is just going to stand still and let him form all his IS weapons like Sakura and Chiyo WHO STILL REACTED TO IT TWICE so unless Chiyo has god like reactions the "speed of sound" argument should logically be thrown out the window. That scan shows Sasori boosting their speed with chakra from the third mid-flight nothing more nothing less.
Sasuke doesn't win if sasori fights the best he can and sasuke fights the best he can, sasoir's arsenal is better and even deidara admitted he was the more powerful of the two and sasuke didnt really beat deidara tbh. But nonetheless chino took down most of the puppets for sakura and they had antidotes you expect sasuke to go the entire fight without getting a scratch?
- against chiyo and sakura, chiyo was a master puppeteer so they had that advantage + sakura was'nt the one dodging but chiyo controlling her movements
- sasori's iron sand would take sasuke down, iron sand spikes/bullets/ would be a pain, + the block/spin top shaped iron sand attacks would prolly take sasuke out for good, cuz he can't oral rebirth his way out of it or block
- a single scratch and sasuke is in trouble (he does'nt have no antidote)
- with his magnetism, sasori can disarm sasuke from his sword aswell as his shurikens and kunai
bro, will you ever stop wanking this damn serpent.
Iron sand will pierce Manda since Gambunta's blade did. So Manda will look like swiss cheese once Sasori's done with him. Why isn't posion putting down Manda? As far as we know Oro didn't modify him and Manda doesn't like Oro's presence.
Raiton was never categorized as generating enough heat for it to ever be substantial in the midst of battle and
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. If Raiton naturally doesn't produce the quantity of heat energy necessary to even scorch paper itself, then there's no merit in presuming that Sasuke's Raiton would demagnetize Sasori's Satetsu. Even if we were to conform to such a presumption, we'd also have to presume that every component of each technique is balanced (meaning the amount of magnetic chakra used is equivalent to the amount of raiton chakra discharged) which is illogical considering Hebi Sasuke's Raiton was only capable of diffusing smaller variants of Deidara's bombs which held a crippling weakness towards Raiton, something not even elucidated for Sasori's Satetsu.
I simply disagree with the logic used in this thread because it's neglecting the fact that in spite of Satetsu's Doton component being susceptible to Raiton, Haku's Kekkei Genkai held a component vulnerable to Katon yet thwarted Sasuke's Katon from melting his Ice simply because Haku's Chakra was enough to overcome the decisive weakness it had against heat.
Sasuke's Katon IMO, would only generate enough heat to demagnetize Sasori's Satetsu through CS2 Sasuke's Katon which fosters enough heat energy to cause an atmospheric change, but that in itself would deplete Sasuke's chakra
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as was the case with Sharingan + Chidori, something significantly less exhaustive for Sasuke.
bro, will you ever stop wanking this damn serpent.
Iron sand will pierce Manda since Gambunta's blade did. So Manda will look like swiss cheese once Sasori's done with him. Why isn't posion putting down Manda? As far as we know Oro didn't modify him and Manda doesn't like Oro's presence.
Same with me. I asked him in a vm if he believed Nagato>Manda 2 and he said yes. I wasn't sure if he was serious.
His iron sand is easily avoided since Chiyo and Sasuke manage to avoid them. The gab between Hebi Sasuke speed and Sakura is huge since she can't even see Sasuke move. So iron sand is made useless here. Gas poison is useless when Katon completely gets rid of it and if im correct Sasuke is immune to poison anyways. His puppet is blitz to shit. Sasuke then shoots fire balls into the air for Kirin prep. Sasori gets stomped in cqc him and his puppet since we seen the Sakura controlled Chiyo one shot Hiruko. His linear elements are laughable. Once Hiruko is taken out Manda is summoned and it makes it a super stomp.