[VS] Hebi Sasuke Vs Mei

[Haizaki]

Summonings restricted means Mei definitely wins. Unrestricted and we have a match that can possibly go either way.

 

[Zexion~]

Which still doesn't matter regardless. Sasuke isn't going to run through the mist and kill Mei. Literally less than a second of exposure scarred his arm and that was only partial exposure due to Susanoo, let alone him being burnt all across his body. If he uses Oral Rebirth while that goes on he gets blasted away by Suiton and then the Acid Mist kills him. He can't even use Oral Rebirth more than twice considering using it once drained the majority of his chakra even while using the Curse Mark.

Water Wall stops any and all charge attempts, and what is Chidori spear going to do from mid-long range? She'd simply avoid it.

Hidden Mist and Acid Mist obviously aren't the same thing otherwise Sasuke wouldn't have been able to see Mei in that hallway if they worked the same. And no, summoning doesn't clear the mist, at all. Not even close. Where are you getting that from? :lol

-He isn't running through the mist he's jumping from atop the summon once he learns her location, which all it needs to do is swing its tail through the mist in order for Mei's location to be revealed.

The more I type this though the more questions I have about Mei so I probably shouldn't argue this any longer, all I know is that she's not reacting to his speed if he gets her location and can move close enough.

 

[Icelerate]

Restricting CS2 and summonings gives Mei the win.

I think she wins mid difficulty.

 

[Byakuren]

What are Mei's feats regarding breaking Genjutsu.

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[Jugram Haschwalth]

Mei destroys him. :lol CQC spells death due to Acid Mist, his vision gets hindered by Hidden Mist and long range battle goes to Mei easily due to Lava Release and her large scale Suiton, which also counters all his Katon. No blitz will occur. No countering of the mist will occur. The only thing that will occur is Sasuke dying the moment Acid Mist is used.

And it being an open area is irrelevant. Acid Mist isn't stronger in an enclosed space. That's another made up myth just like Kirin's extremely long prep time. The only thing that changes is that the mist will cover more area, which is actually a good thing in a non enclosed space. The mist won't magically blow away if the regular Hidden Mist doesn't do so.

Mei low-mid diff. Unrestrict him and she takes it mid-high diff.

How does Mei beat an unrestricted Hebi Sasuke?

 

[KidGamer65]

How does Mei beat an unrestricted Hebi Sasuke?

Literally the same exact way I described in this thread, except factor in Acid Mist and Lava Release to counter Manda.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Literally the same exact way I described in this thread, except factor in Acid Mist and Lava Release to counter Manda.

That wouldn't work. Mei acid mist is evaded once Manda goes underground and uses Snake sensing to pin point her location. Once she's found him and Sasuke would can easily take her out. Her Lava style wouldn't be much of a problem since she can't use a large amount of it or enough of it to take out Manda completely.

I also believe Mei acid mist is see through and not as thick as Zabuza's since

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through the mist

 

[KidGamer65]

That wouldn't work. Mei acid mist is evaded once Manda goes underground and uses Snake sensing to pin point her location. Once she's found him and Sasuke would can easily take her out. Her Lava style wouldn't be much of a problem since she can't use a large amount of it or enough of it to take out Manda completely.

I also believe Mei acid mist is see through and not as thick as Zabuza's since

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through the mist

And why would they easily be able to take her out? If Sasuke reveals himself Acid Mist kills him. If he lets Manda doing the fight Acid Mist+Lava Release kills him. She doesn't need to release it in large amounts when the facial area is enough to do lethal damage to Manda.

And yeah, ACid Mist is see through, but Mei can use Hidden Mist on top of that so it doesn't matter.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

And why would they easily be able to take her out? If Sasuke reveals himself Acid Mist kills him. If he lets Manda doing the fight Acid Mist+Lava Release kills him. She doesn't need to release it in large amounts when the facial area is enough to do lethal damage to Manda.

Once she's caught off guard via the underground ambush

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. Manda is an Anaconda so enlarging his facial region is used to take as little damage as possible. Or he could come from directly under her. Mei acid mist isn't melting Manda's skin when it's best feat was melting a rib cage susanoo. Her Lava should be tanked by Manda skin as well. We've seen a rib-cage Susanoo and KM Naruto both tank Lava. She can burn Manda but not enough to permanently put him down. Sasuke would have to resort to letting Manda and his other Snake summonings handle this if she deicides to camp inside her acid mist.

And yeah, Acid Mist is see through, but Mei can use Hidden Mist on top of that so it doesn't matter.

Good point but Snake sensing is still a good counter.

 

[Icelerate]

Mei destroys him. :lol CQC spells death due to Acid Mist, his vision gets hindered by Hidden Mist and long range battle goes to Mei easily due to Lava Release and her large scale Suiton, which also counters all his Katon. No blitz will occur. No countering of the mist will occur. The only thing that will occur is Sasuke dying the moment Acid Mist is used.

And it being an open area is irrelevant. Acid Mist isn't stronger in an enclosed space. That's another made up myth just like Kirin's extremely long prep time. The only thing that changes is that the mist will cover more area, which is actually a good thing in a non enclosed space. The mist won't magically blow away if the regular Hidden Mist doesn't do so.

Mei low-mid diff. Unrestrict him and she takes it mid-high diff.

Why would acid mist covering more area be a good thing? It will end up less concentrated/more spreadout which means it'll do less damage per unit time due to Sasuke being exposed to less acid per unit time.

I do agree with you that acid mist won't simply dissipate away. Just like how once the caster has used hidden mist, it spreads out to a set volume and then doesn't become thin by spreading about even further. However, I've heard people say that acid mist will leak away unlike hidden mist

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but acid mist leaking away only means small amounts of the acid mist will escape, not that it all dissipates away like a gas.

Also I see people underrate the acid's acidity because Sasuke didn't melt but he was in susanoo. His

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acid mist was used so without susanoo, Sasuke's flesh would suffer the same fate from the get go.

I think that acid isn't as potent in an open area but human flesh isn't as thick or durable as susanoo either. Then there is the fact the manga nor the databook claim the mist will be ineffective in an open area.

 

[Dizzldot]

Sasuke wins regarless of these dumb restrictions He can easily pressure her in CQC from 30m Acid mist is not getting off nor his it killing him instantly it burns fairly slow.

Sasuke would easily pressure her killing her genjutsu is also a go or Kirin 1 shots and im talking about the non prep Kirin.

NON prep kirin doesn't exist kid

 

[adeshina365]

LMAO

Mei has no real speed feats.

Sasuke shits.

 

[adeshina365]

What are Mei's feats regarding breaking Genjutsu.

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What speed feats does Mei have at all?

Hebi Sasuke was one of the fastest characters in the manga. Everything points to Mei being a ninjutsu reliant distance fighter. W/o distance she can't do shit.

Sasuke low-mid diff.

 

[Dizzldot]

What speed feats does Mei have at all?

Hebi Sasuke was one of the fastest characters in the manga. Everything points to Mei being a ninjutsu reliant distance fighter. W/o distance she can't do shit.

Sasuke low-mid diff.

She's a kage so her taijutsu is at least jonin level enough to hold her own against hebi sasuke's kenjutsu along with her acid mist he can't get close anyways

 

[Icelerate]

LMAO

Mei has no real speed feats.

Sasuke shits.

All Mei needs is one hand seal to surround herself with acid mist. How is Sasuke blitzing through all that especially with 30 m distance between them?

So Sasuke closes the distance, meanwhile Mei uses acid mist and Sasuke starts melting. While Sasuke melts, Mei fires some lava at him for good measure. Sasuke can't dodge the lava while he melts away thus finishing him.

 

[TRE MERCER]

How does Mei beat Manda??????????Ill wait........................

 

[Icelerate]

How does Mei beat Manda??????????Ill wait........................

Manda is a large summon, therefore it is restricted.

 

[KidGamer65]

Why would acid mist covering more area be a good thing? It will end up less concentrated/more spreadout which means it'll do less damage per unit time due to Sasuke being exposed to less acid per unit time.

I do agree with you that acid mist won't simply dissipate away. Just like how once the caster has used hidden mist, it spreads out to a set volume and then doesn't become thin by spreading about even further. However, I've heard people say that acid mist will leak away unlike hidden mist

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but acid mist leaking away only means small amounts of the acid mist will escape, not that it all dissipates away like a gas.

Also I see people underrate the acid's acidity because Sasuke didn't melt but he was in susanoo. His

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acid mist was used so without susanoo, Sasuke's flesh would suffer the same fate from the get go.

I think that acid isn't as potent in an open area but human flesh isn't as thick or durable as susanoo either. Then there is the fact the manga nor the databook claim the mist will be ineffective in an open area.

Why would this being an open area mean that the acid gets less concentrated? Maybe if she sticks with the same amount she did when she used it in that hallway, but otherwise no, no real difference is going to be shown here.

Once she's caught off guard via the underground ambush

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. Manda is an Anaconda so enlarging his facial region is used to take as little damage as possible. Or he could come from directly under her. Mei acid mist isn't melting Manda's skin when it's best feat was melting a rib cage susanoo. Her Lava should be tanked by Manda skin as well. We've seen a rib-cage Susanoo and KM Naruto both tank Lava. She can burn Manda but not enough to permanently put him down. Sasuke would have to resort to letting Manda and his other Snake summonings handle this if she deicides to camp inside her acid mist.


Good point but Snake sensing is still a good counter.

Why would she be caught off guard? He has no cover and his target is obvious. All she needs to do is get out of the area she was in the moment Manda goes underground and then attack with Lava Release. And where is the source for the bold? Where is the source that Manda is even an anaconda in the first place? :lol Definitely never mentioned in the Manga. He's just described to be a giant snake.

Manda isn't more durable than any version of Susanoo pound for pound and he's flesh, meaning he feels pain. Not to mention burning and melting techniques don't damage the same way that regular explosive attacks do. Juubi tanked it's Bijuu Dama yet Amaterasu+FRS burnt the shit out of it. Manda gets killed by Acid Mist and Lava Release.

Manda's skin was scorched by Jiraiya's Oil enhanced Katon yet you are actually arguing that it'll tank Lava and Acid Mist, far more lethal than any regular flame. :lol

And camp inside Acid Mist? It covers the entire area. There is no camping. Once she uses it, him and his fodder snake summons die.

 

[Oblivionx]

Mei wins against hebi sasuke. If deidara can react to hebi sasuke then mei being a kage should be able to do so as well. Without susano sasuke dies here.

 

[Icelerate]

Why would this being an open area mean that the acid gets less concentrated? Maybe if she sticks with the same amount she did when she used it in that hallway, but otherwise no, no real difference is going to be shown here.

Well I agree she can make her mist more concentrated. Acid mist is a

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just like hidden mist but the reason why Sasuke could see through it just fine is because Mei didn't make the mist more thicker for several reasons.

1. Mei wanted a visual on Sasuke.
2. Too thick mist might escape and harm others before Mei can reduce its pH.
3. What she used was sufficient in that situation.

Mei should be able to make it thicker even in an open area due to being a far superior ninjutsu user than Zabuza. You agree?