[VS] Hebi Sasuke vs Hidan
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So you're saying he's that superior than Kakashi that Kakashi couldn't touch him but Sasuke stomps?
His shunshin is so hyped lol
Hidan's never getting blitzed but in a CQC fight Sasuke should take it mid diff eventually.
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No bullshit, Kakashi was matching Hidan blow for blow while fighting Kakuzu's hearts. 1v1 he WILL win eventually
Someone make an argument for how Hidan loses to Kakashi 1v1 lol I wana see the feats. Hidan also matched him, and he has unlimited stamina unlike Kakashi.
The "Kakuzu's hearts" BS is ass, they matched each other for an extended time even without the mask being present lol.
The "Kakuzu's hearts" BS is ass, they matched each other for an extended time even without the mask being present lol.
I feel like he should lol being immortal also means his stamina isn't taking hits from delivering fatal blows to himself (incapacitating blood flow should slow you down quite a bit) so there isn't a reason to say he doesn't have unlimited stamina idk about chakra but he doesn't use alot of that anyways. At the very least DB gives him a 5 in stamina.
Shikamaru might have said something about it, but that may have been in the anime can't recall.
Hidan gets trashed via Raiton Clones, Raiton Chain, Bunshin Feints, some Genjutsu, and of course, Kamui strats. Kakashi and Hidan are essentially on par in the Taijutsu department, so Kakashi gains the edge with Ninjutsu and Genjutsu (of which, Hidan has neither).
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i believe we are talking about immortal arcs 3T Kakashi so no bold
but yeah if hidan failed to land hit on kakashi with injured hand who only used kunai i fail to see how he stand chance against bunshins;3 elements;genjutsu etc
don't see why raiton enhanced blade won't slice his scythe
don't see why ninkens wont immobilise him
don't see how he lands a hit when he failed to do it with kakuzu's mask aiding him
Alright I was using non-3T. 3T Kakashi still has Raiton Chain and Raiton Clones, I don't think that just because they were used later means that they can't be used at all. Kamui is the only technique that shows clear progression and training with Kamui, I think it is safe to assume that things like Raiton Clones are general techniques for Shipudden Kakashi.
Agreed on all your points btw
This is Immortals arc my dude...
Raiton enhanced blade? As in Kunai? Doubt it with such a size mis-match,
Ninkens? The dogs ....good enough premise but unless they're summoned directly next to Hidan they're not catching him, and if Kakashi is that close to Hidan he won't have time to make the summoning movements. They were used against Zabuza who was giving Kakashi loads of space.
When did the masks aid him getting hits? He aided the fuuton mask technically, and the katon mask did nothing when used from 30 meters away, if Kakashi is using that small a weapon against Hidans massive scythe as well as the fact that Hidan has the capacity to take damage and continue striking while Kakashi can't take ANYTHING is a plus in his favor. What stops Hidan impaling himself on Kakashi's Kunai or even his Raikiri? Puts himself in the perfect position to strike Kakashi its a strategy that can be done since Hidan was matching Kakashi's speed when they clashed.
Also imo Hidan has a higher chance of striking Kakashi at all than Kakashi does to completely sever Hidan's head. Especially taking in stamina here.
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why does size even matters here.Kakashi with same kunai fended hidan's strikes
they are total 8 in numbers and can move underground and hidan has no way of locating them while he has to fend of kakashi at same time
lol yes fuuton mask aided him and so did katon mask becozit was the reason he tried to sneak attack kakashi and got fended off [
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]@bold failed to did it in canon against a normal kunai.Raikiri enhance kunai leaves him without a weapon [
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]and failed to do it with all the advantages he had yeah okay
Its strength, basically saying it can slice through any-weaponry when on multiple occasions he hasn't. Not to mention Asumas wind blades (more potent than raiton) simply parried the scythe so I mean.
Yeah but they all have to strike in unison to restrain Hidan, and even then he was overpowering shadow strangle off of pure strength. Assuming he doesn't strike them down beforehand. Having the chain attatched in this scenario is helpful here.
.....How did fuuton aid him when he attacked first? And after the Katon heart Kakashi also intiated clashes with Hidan himself
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lol Hidan can fight Kakashi on his own in CQC fine. Lol sure "advantages"
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Don't need nor does it matter hidan takes out one or two of them while others restrain him
If kakashi gets rid of hidan's scythe via raikiri kunai he literally can't defend against niken
Yeah you are right fuuton mask didn't aid him he aided it to land a hit on kakashi taking advantage of his immortality.
Nope hidan tried blindside kakashi after the katon he got fended off
Either of the case proves he annot overwhelm a kakashi with simple kunai along with mask aiding or he aiding them
Yeah
Hidan takes scenario 2. No intel, no Curse Mark, no genjutsu. Sasuke dies.
Also Hidan kills Kakashi from zombie arc with no intel, mid diff. With intel Hidan can still win if the fight drags on long enough, Kakashi has to decapitate Hidan, while Hidan just needs some blood much easier to focus on the latter. Roughly on par in CQC Kakashi was playing defensive for the most part because Hidan is dangerous to give openings to. Kakashi will get pressured just like in manga canon.
Also Hidan kills Kakashi from zombie arc with no intel, mid diff. With intel Hidan can still win if the fight drags on long enough, Kakashi has to decapitate Hidan, while Hidan just needs some blood much easier to focus on the latter. Roughly on par in CQC Kakashi was playing defensive for the most part because Hidan is dangerous to give openings to. Kakashi will get pressured just like in manga canon.
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Sasuke is far beyond Kakashi during that arc. :lol Why are you always the one to complain about his Shunshin being hyped when nobody ever mentioned a thing about his Shunshin?
And no, Kakashi had to deal with attacks from both of them yet Hidan couldn't do a thing. Shouldn't take much thought to realize that Hidan loses in a 1 on 1.